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gingerjon

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  1. 12 minutes ago, Worzel said:

    If we had England playing Australia on a regular basis outside of World Cups I'd be inclined to agree with you, but we knew going into the tournament that we hadn't (and knew we had no visibility of anything happening afterwards either). I think in that context, not putting your best product on show is a major error. No ambitious promoter in any other sport would allow it.

    Let's be honest, no matter what we might say to others outside of forums like this, you and I both know  really that Rugby League World Cups are not "proper" tournaments in the way the football and rugby union ones are, so because of that I think they do need an element of proactive, gerrmandered structures to enable the right story to be told to sell the tournament.  

    We literally gerrymandered the tournament to get an England v Oz final and then England clucked it up.

    I’m not sure you can get more rugby league than that.

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  2. 2 minutes ago, langpark said:

    Come on Eddie. Even if there was no covid and every other star in the universe aligned, Euro 13 never had a chance. The majority of "clubs" were non-existent entities. 

    Disappointingly, someone appears to have deleted the Euro XIII pages from Wikipedia.

  3. 5 minutes ago, Eddie said:

    Lots of negativity here, which I get given the history of the individuals involved, but it’s just Cas travelling over for a friendly in Spain and that’s a good thing for them and their fans afaic. Valencia is a top place to visit. 

    As said, if that's all it is: fine.

    However, if it is used to give credibility to the man who brought us Euro XIII, Franchise League (complete with club announcements and a fixture list), and Bath Gladiators withdrawing from the RFL to set up their own competition then that does become a problem. Even though all of those are jokes, they are all damaging in their own way.

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  4. 22 hours ago, Richard de la Riviere said:
    We've had a brainwave!
     
    This is who should England play before Vegas and this is how to create a competitive opponent for the national side to play every year...
     

    Related - I've said for years that an England XIII should play a Cumbria XIII as their warm up to the Autumn internationals. This may be the only time I'm ever going to say that making that imaginary game a double header would be a good idea.

    England are going to be severely undercooked for what will likely be their most visible game in years. The fact that nobody in the RFL seems to remotely care about addressing that is, as ever, quite revealing.

  5. Just now, Tommygilf said:

    Plenty of clubs have had warm weather pre season camps, if the Valencia link up is a coincidental then who cares really

    If this is all it is then it's harmless. If this is another diversion that ends up making a mockery of genuine development attempts - just look at how much mental energy, if nothing else, was taken up by Euro XIII - then it becomes problematic.

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  6. 8 hours ago, Worzel said:

    Yea but my issue is with keeping England and Australia apart in the last World Cup draw, when the two things you describe had already happened. That’s madness on a stick. 

    The ghost of 2000 looms large. One of the many failures of that tournament was starting* with England v Australia and England not turning up.

    * I know it wasn't technically but...

  7. 3 minutes ago, Stainesrover said:

    It needs to be big enough to produce players to play international 

    So, doable.

    Not with the current Rugby League Ireland-in-the-UK set-up, obviously.

    But eminently doable with the right people and persistence. Rugby league is a tiny sport globally - you don't need that many players to have an impact internationally.

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  8. 20 minutes ago, unapologetic pedant said:

    I know.

    Considered putting "further reductions", but the point also applied to pitch-size which (afaik) is the same.

    I think they are the same in that they have 50m markings not the 40m that the AFL had when they used to go on the road to undersized grounds elsewhere - but I think the suburban grounds they tend to play at have overall smaller dimensions.

    I do take your point that the lack of distance on kicking means players group far more than in the men's game and the resulting spectacle is not the best. It really does fall short when compared to the quality of the NRLW.

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  9. 24 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:

    How many extra times do you foresee this going to the video ref? I think this point has been greatly exaggerated.

    I don't really watch the NRL too much but it's not particularly noticeable as a delay of game there. I don't have a problem with it at all. It gives the referee a useful weapon in terms of control and places the onus on players to back up their moans.

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  10. https://www.rugby-league.com/article/63310/“backing-the-best”-campaign-–-aiming-to-create-a-new-route-for-young-athletes-into-rugby-league?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR0cdi42witn8oBAvkR0XG13JnSHOh7kACaVuefpswqcOr6_raQQzFsOfQk_aem_3a2qngG0W-QuQ_6O-ORbcA

    Awakening Rugby League in the City (ARC) will see the creation of a pathway for talented athletes who may never have considered playing Rugby League an opportunity to experience the game for the first time in a supported environment.

    The RFL will use the awarded funds to work alongside Salford Red Devils and Swinton Lions to deliver ARC within Manchester and Bradford Bulls and Community Lions Foundation in West Yorkshire.

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