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  1. 4 hours ago, nadera78 said:

    There's a loudmouthed club employee on the other forum who stated that going part-time is one option for next season.

    I'm no apologist for the said employee, BUT its the first time a LB employee has engaged with fans, keeping us as up to date as he can. A seismic shift for me. You may, on occasion,  not like his style or his tone but he is facing a lot of skepticism built up over many years, so sometimes gets a little defensive. So what, we are all grown ups. He's offered his email regularly, giving those who want a personal audience the chance.

    Would you prefer it reverts back to how it was and we are treated like mushrooms ?

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  2. 3 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

    Looks like London, Toronto, Hull kr and Wakefield are all in trouble if they can’t find new investors 

    What do you base this tosh on ? Broncos have fed off Hughes' ££££ for years. It's not something new. Broncos will cut their cloth to suit in these uncertain times, and whilst an investor would be brilliant, not the end if none forthcoming. 

  3. 5 hours ago, The Daddy said:

    Now that Wigan have a new wealthy investor involved in the club, may I suggest that Ian Lenaghan resumes control of the London Broncos.

    Hearing rumours that David Hughes is lowering his investment in the club and the Broncos will become part time. Not good for the sport in London and RL.

    If Ian could takeover and get the club to play out of the new stadium in Wimbledon that would be super.


    So much wrong with this post, I'm not sure where to start.

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  4. 2 hours ago, Eddie said:

    It would be incredible. 

    Here's the really funny thing about all the small minds debating attendances and oh! how important they are to those with little else to support a SL argument. If we were comparing say 30,000 and 5,000 then wow that's a discernible difference. But we are not. We are comparing 5,000 and 1,500. So the question is more, will Super Club Leigh increase Sky subs  - no they wont. Will Featherstone - no they wont. Will Toulouse - no they wont. Will London or Toronto - more than likely, given a significant number of Sky RL viewers are already based in the SE. Will Leigh's Academy introduce more players to the elite game - no, they don't have one. Will Featherstone Academy - do they have one ? Will Toulouse - possibly. Will London - demonstrably. Do we really think how a 'stadium' looks on TV is really that important rather than the product that takes place in it - has anyone seen NRL games at Sunshine Coast Stadium of late  - any different to Trailfinders ? Think big picture, think beyond small towns with Rugby League justice and fight in their belly.

  5. 55 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
    Club Home
    Total Average Highest Lowest
    Castleford colours.svg Castleford Tigers 11 104,776 9,525 11,500 7,094
    Catalanscolours.svg Catalans Dragons 11 96,551 8,777 10,804 7,254
    Giantscolours.svg Huddersfield Giants 11 64,081 5,826 8,666 4,973
    Hullcolours.svg Hull 11 128,900 11,718 15,487 10,222
    Rhinoscolours.svg Leeds Rhinos 11 164,449 14,950 18,029 13,169
    Leigh colours.svg Leigh Centurions 11 71,732 6,521 9,012 4,938
    Redscolours.svg Salford Red Devils 11 51,736 4,703 6,253 2,678
    Saintscolours.svg St Helens 11 118,240 10,749 13,138 9,040
    Wcatscolours.svg Wakefield Trinity 11 58,178 5,289 7,187 4,017
    Wolvescolours.svg Warrington Wolves 11 115,253 10,478 11,681 9,152
    Widnes colours.svg Widnes Vikings 11 63,437 5,767 8,279 4,253
    Wigancolours.svg Wigan Warriors 11 153,810 13,983 23,390 11,637

    Leigh average largely made up of lots of away fans travelling a handful of miles from exotic local towns like St Helens, Wigan, Warrington and little further afield like Leeds.

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  6. 13 hours ago, wiganermike said:

    I would assume that would be a bond asked of overseas clubs only (to cover costs incurred in the event of them withdrawing mid-season) and wouldn't apply to UK clubs entering League 1. I don't expect the RFL would ask Medway Dragons, Nottingham Outlaws, or Valley Cougars for example to stump up £500k to enter League 1 if they wished to, as the costs of participating against them are likely to be much smaller (and thus losses from them withdrawing less devastating) compared to overseas clubs.

    As far as I am aware, Medway Dragons have never played at any leading level of Open Age - NL3 and alike - so no idea why they would be approached.

  7. Am I missing something, but don't we have 3 divisions now ? The suggestion merely tries to get a meaningful Championship, something that we all crave for.  In the 6 team option, there would be no 'pub teams (not my term)' and the prize a place in SL, so if anyone was to take foot off gas ....maybe don't even have play offs. 8 team league runs the risk have including some of the current make-weights. Either option better than current.

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  8. 58 minutes ago, Derwent said:

    Whichever way you cut it we will always end up with a handful of clubs who don't really fit anywhere in the structure. So there is a stark choice to make if that problem is to be fixed - either fund that handful of clubs to SL level to make them competitive to that standard and allow them entry, or equalise the funding at Championship & L1 level to create a balanced competition. Or we can just go on tinkering around the edges with the structure and achieve nothing in the process.

    Or streamline that middle division to say 8 teams (21 games, play all 3 times), maybe even 6 (20 games, play all 4 times) plus play offs. End the season much earlier than SL to enable clubs to recruit and better prepare for SL following season. 1 promoted / 1 or 2 relegated.

  9. 1 hour ago, THE RED ROOSTER said:

    Pretty decent response from the London Broncos to their season ticket holders like myself (club contact details redacted by me) - Option 1 for me if you really want to know.


    Option 1 for me too. And, if they put ST up for sale for next year now I'd buy one. I have a new COVID wardrobe of Broncos training gear so guess i need to start getting into exercise !

  10. 17 minutes ago, Robthegasman said:

    Again how come others that are bigger such as Wimbledon,UEFA with the Euros and Olympic Games committee have had the balls and guts to make a call and decide to postpone?

    Because the other events you identify are global events with mass international travel, huge TV deals, logistics, etc .... we are talking about a sport played in a small part of Northern England with no TV deal and a small walk up audience. I guess one of the benefits of being a minority sport is you can sit on these decisions a lot longer.

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  11. 23 hours ago, sweaty craiq said:

    I totally agree

    David Hughes has pumped more money into LB than both Derek and the bloke at Fev combined. He knows there is no chance of a return on his investment, yet he continues and doesn't shout from the rooftops. A true gentlemen.

    It could be argued that if we had had a Derek or Marwan as owner fighting our corner, we would be in a much more viable position than we currently are. Still, we gave SL  a good shake last year.

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  12. On 03/06/2020 at 15:09, Celtic Roosters said:

    2003 - Underbank 42 St. Albans 22, St. Albans 56 Hemel 18, Teeside away void,  2004 - Carlisle home void, Hemel 40 St. Albans 22, Coventry 32 St. Albans 20, Bramley 24 St. Albans 16. 2005 - Dudley Hill home void,  Coventry 26 St. Albans 38, Bramley 34 St. Albans 16 (I went to this game), St. Albans 40 Hemel 6, St. Albans 46 Warrington 24, Dudley Hill 63 St. Albans 10. 2006 - St. Albans 28 Gateshead 14, St. Albans 6 Bramley 10, Dufdley Hill away - St. Albans failed the fixture, Warrington 30 St. Albans 12. Challenge cup - Birkenshaw 22 St. Albans 10. I can't find Northern Rail results at the moment.

    Thanks for the response, it was very useful.

    Don't want to push my luck but for the following, do you have teams and scorers for St Albans (and dates for 2006)?


    Birmingham Bulldogs 16-52 St A


    St A 16 – 20 Bradford Dudley Hill (I think you said this was voided but I have a score ??)

    Bradford Dudley Hill 63-10 St A


    St A 6-10 Bramley

    Warrington 30-12 St A

  13. On 21/05/2020 at 19:54, Celtic Roosters said:

    Only just seen this. I don't go on the forum as much any more. I have both programmes .v. Celtic Crusaders and I will have all of the results you are looking for but I am going through a tough time at the moment and am finding it difficult to motivate myself to do anything. I will be going to work soon so not going to look tonight. Let me know if you still need this info and I will have a look over the weekend.

    Still very keen to get all the info requested. Ironically, I bought Gillette Yearbook and got Celtic C info, nil to St Albans in both games !!!!  If and when you feel up to it, have a rummage for me please.

  14. Whilst at Durham Uni, initiated a link up with the Durham City side to moderate degree of success, which Town v Gown got in the way of. Great to see RL in the Uni and City now.

    Always was a rugby league evangelist, and still am today, cant recall how many I've introduced along the way.

    Moved south, set up a club in '95 and it's still going today. Like Bearman had every role in the club, reaching breaking point many times. We had many good battles with Coventry in NL3 and RLCP. 

    This summer would be my last in junior RL coaching which I have done for 7 years, as my lad has reached 16 and only Open Age option.

    Far too many good people met along the way - Bearman, IM2 included - and a few bad eggs.

    Some of the former players have set up a Virtual Bar on Facebook, where we pop in from time to time for a reminisce - its priceless memories.

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  15. On 16/05/2020 at 20:07, Robthegasman said:

    My prediction is that we will end up seeing a two division set up,Super League and a new look Championship with I think either 10 or 12 clubs in each division.And the current clubs that don’t make the final cut will either become a community type club or amateur club or they will fade and die.



    I am convinced that rather than have some convoluted, unweighted end of season free for all clubs outside SL this season; next year should be set at 2 leagues regardless. Existing SL plus SL wannabees / the rest. The days of minimum standards for SL appear to have gone out of the window, so anything goes. SL wannabees need to commit to being full time, not dual reg with anyone in the same league, and similar reasonable expectations of teams in the top tier. I would cap the top league at 18. Ok, means a lot of fixtures, but its an interim year for the game.

    At the end of next season, with this format, upto 5 relegated (no exemption) and one promoted (leaving 14 teams) and then franchise kicks back in.


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