christopher
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Many wish that was true.
It is true, we have the best squad for many a year with or without Mr Brough.
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England would have been so much stronger, alas
England have a fantastic squad as it is, Brough would have made little difference, try a smiley face instead
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You need a running game to be an international half back. Sinfield doesn't, our attack out wide will suffer from this massively. Sinfields leadership, kicking and organisation are at a very high level but these are not enough to hack it at international level. This is my only problem with Sinfield playing.
Sinfield playing has no bearing on my opinion on McNamaras treatment of Brough. So I'm not quite sure why he has been brought in to debate if I'm honest.
I actually think Sinfield will play a fair chunk of time at 9 (which he's actually currently doing for Leeds)
I think Sinfields been brought into it as people think McNamara is just picking his favourites but IMO he is trying to build a team and have some stability which I think is a good thing and as I said before he has been planning for the future and the future is now.
I don't know what had actually gone on between Brough and McNamara (nobody on here truly knows!) and it's now irrelevant.
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Your point would maybe have been valid if Tomkins hadn't played full back for England for the last two years and at Wigan for longer than that so he is sticking to his word about a settled squad, we have plenty of 'match winners' in there and with Sinfield we have an outstanding leader and organiser, yes Brough would have been a great addition but by no means does England's chances rest on him being in the squad.
McNamara had been doing exactly what you are asking for he has been working since he was appointed to get a settled squad by looking to the future, that 'future' is now the present and we have a fantastic looking squad. It looks like Widdop may be fit which adds to our options in the half back role, we have some excellent 3/4s and the forwards look very strong indeed.
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Even if they win it?McNamara has let the England team down IMO by ignoring Brough. Personally I would replace him as coach immediately after the tournament as prob do more damage than good at this stage to do it. But he's defo not acting in the best interest of our team.
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It's not win win,
I want England to win the World cup end of. . .
But their chances of doing so nosedived when SM took control, he's clueless and has made a string of poor decisions
Win win omega, if they win you'll be happy and if they don't you've already made your excuses and you can say told you so.
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OH The irony!
I certainly wasn't as quick as you to jump on this thread.
You're living in a fantasy world Chris, MCNamara manufactured a situation that was unacceptable to Brough or for that matter any player with an ounce of self respect, he did it on purpose and made no real attempt to hide it.
I like Sinfield, he's looked World class for Leeds but has had no more than 2 or 3 decent games at international level, he's had his chance and failed.
Well he clearly hasn't had his chance as it does seem if fit he will be playing in the World Cup. And will be the first chance he's had as captain and organiser of the side.
As I said earlier its a win win situation for you McNamara bashers.
And your assessment of te Brough McNamara situation seems a touch hyperbolic.
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Is that a joke because if it is, you've left out the funny bit. Sinfields a 34 time failure at international level.
The Australians and to a slightly lesser extent the Kiwis will tear him to shreds, they must be laughing their collective kocks off!
McNamara not picking Brough in a 40 man ETS was nothing more than an attempt to publicly humiliate Danny, so much so that the aim was to leave Broughy with nowhere to go but out of the England camp. Brough has been the stand out player in SL this season and it's incompetence to the extreme on McNamaras part that he can't manage the squad better.
As I say Groundhog Day .
Although I'm still intrigued with your assertion Sinfield has been a failure 34 times and NZ will rip him apart, even though the las two games he's played against NZ he's won MOM.
Brough has been the standout player in SL but he's chosen to play for Scotland, you need to get over it.
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we should be looking to the future
No we shouldn't, we should be looking at the present, you could say we should be looking at the future forever, its the WC in two months we should be focussing on that not the team for next years tournament.
You can say what you like about Sinfield but in the last game England went to pieces when he wasn't on the pitch in the second half.
Yes Brough should probably be in but he isn't and we have what looks like a very very good squad.
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Jesus it's like Groundhog Day.
Look its win win for you McNamara haters, if we bomb in the World Cup you've got a ready made excuse cos obviously we'd have won it with Beoughy, and if we win, well, we've Ron the World Cup so you should be happy. As I say it's win win for you guys.
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He didn't even have Sinfield and Chase as the halves in the Exiles game.
Facts appear to be irrelevant when discussing this issue.
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Yes and then told him he was not in the 40 man Elite Squad and was not picked to play in the Exiles Team, as McNamara said he was sticking with his settled half back combination of Sinfield and Chase.
Danny Brough wants to play in the World Cup and as he was not going to get picked for England he chose to make himself available for Scotland to get a World Cup game. You cannot blame him for that, what's the bloke supposed to do? Just sit and wait in hope that either Sinfield or Chase get injured? I know I wouldn't. There is only one person to blame for Danny Brough not wearing an England shirt this Autumn and it's certainly not Danny Brough.
I know all the above has been covered over and over but I had to re mention it again due to your comment Christopher.
No, you do not know whether Brough would have been picked for the WC, what we do know is Danny didn't want to fight for a place so bailed out.
McNamara certainly had his part in it but it wasn't solely down to him that you won't see Brough playing for England Brougj played a massive part in that too.
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As far as I am aware McNamara hasn't picked his WC squad so how was Brough ignored?
He picked him last year in an origin game, didn't pick him for last years internationals A because his form had dropped off and B because he was carrying an injury.
He was left out of the train on squad which was picked at the start of the season. This is the only time you could argue he was ignored but I would expect any professional sportsman who wanted to make the squad fight harder for his place.
He then spat his dummy out.
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It also happened twiceWould take something special for someone to convince someone born in Dewbury that they are Scottish. Unfortunately it happened.
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I think Brough and to some extent Briers can both justifiably feel a little snubbed, however I do agree Broughs attitude in the face of it has left somthing to be desired. It would be nice if the Current England Manager could be the bigger man in this situation sadly this seems unlikely at this stage.
The bigger man? Lets face it if a player publicly states he doesn't want to be considered for selection no coach is going to want that player in the team. Lets not forget it was McNamara who asked Brough to make himself available for England in the first place.
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The only person to blame is McNamara for messing him around.
He's clearly not the only person to blame, Brough took the decision to not make himself available for England selection, it was a dummy spit.
Before this turns into another massive pointless thread, I will say I rate Brough highly and I would have him in the England squad, this doesn't mean he hasn't played his own part in not playing for England in the World Cup, he has ultimately taken the decision out of McNamara's hands, neither you or I know whether McNamara would have put Brough in his squad so its all pure conjecture, what we do know for absolute certain is that Brough has said he wants to play for Scotland, that should be an end to it all.
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The only thing I want him to be awarded is an England number 7 jersey.
Well you've only got him to blame for your disappointment then, he thinks he's Scottish ;-)
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Love how people on here bang on about picking form players for England in one breath then say Luke Burgess should be picked just because ge plays in the NRL. He's been injured for most of the season, only just got back in the side and TBH we have far better options at prop than him.
Sam and George should be the only Burgesses in the England squad.
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If it is "meaningness" then how come people get upset when we lost?
And it seems when we win!
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As the leading Rugby League Nation in the Northern Hemisphere England has some obligation to drag its neighbours up as best as they can.
Australia is often critisised about not doing enough for their region although they have developed enough players in the NRL to lose a World Cup and a couple of Major comps to their close neighbours.
How does giving them a hammering every year help either Country?
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Have we given up on developing France as a Test Nation.
The Exiles teams represents what? and develops what?
Its a mickey mouse team of average players or old Journeymen, what is the point and what satisfaction is there in beating them for the fans or players.
You are hardly going to crow about a victory over that bunch are you?
Giving France a hammering every summer helps neither them or us. England need a competitive game and this is the best option at the moment, it's not about crowing about anything, I don't even think the result matters that much, but this is the only way at present to ht a decent game.
It's also not up to England RL to develop France we need to do what's best for England RL
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It's a worthwhile exercise because it will be competitive unlike a game against France.
Bloody hell RL fans can be a miserable lot.
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Casts doubt on your observational skills, does that.
Here's what Melbourne Storm coach Craig Bellamy said about Kevin Sinfield's Golden Boot award after the World Club Challenge game this year:
“We know he’s a dangerous player and he probably touches the ball more than anyone else in their side other than the halfback Burrow.
“Certainly none of the criticism of the Golden Boot award came from us. We know he’s a wonderful player, and he has been for a very long time.
“At the end of the day when you are picking those sort of awards there is always going to be criticism, because there are so many wonderful players playing our game. But he was a worthy winner, and he was the guy we kept a really close eye on throughout the match. We know he’s a real competitor, a skilful player and he’s really important to their team.”
He's right. Awards always generate criticism, no matter who wins them or how the winners are decided. There is no perfect formula.
He is also right about there being so many wonderful players who play our game, award winners or not.
Pah, what does Craig Bellamy know? ;-) surely the Internet coaches on here know far more.
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The last full series he played in was the one when we beat the Kiwis.
He was named man of the series.
Errrrm, no he wasn't. I think you'll find that was Rob Burrow.
Brough to captain Scotland
in The General Rugby League Forum
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I thought I was Kevin Sinfield? Or kevin Sinfields mum? Make your minds up