MattSantos
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1 minute ago, JohnM said:
I don't think that's the case. With an average attendance of just over 2,000, I venture to suggest that they are more of a club for the local community than anything, though crows do shoot up for the occasional derby.
Are they allowed an Academy team?
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3 minutes ago, Leonard said:
Up to clubs to improve based upon whatever the criteria is.
I get your point - but other than Leigh spending a fortune to make it - P&R has been an embarrassment for the last few years.
So let's not pretend London, Fev or Toulouse getting 4 points, being on TV twice (one of those game one at MW to get them off the TV asap) and being ignored whilst getting weekly thrashings is saving the sport in any way.
And the flip side is that Fev could easily have gone up a couple of times and should have.
If fev want to give up and watch Songs of Praise on a Sunday, that is up to them and their choice.
Of course it's not saving the sport. Again, i repeat myself. Fev fans are upset because they see the dream taken away. In a dying sport, it would have been nice to have 1 more ride.
They're not giving up. It's been taken away from them*
*On the pitch
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1 minute ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:
Because your club didn't win a match they should have, despite spending about £1m more than their opponents? How much more of an advantage do you need?
I'll be going to a coupe of the internationals because I enjoy rugby league, will be entertained, and like many people I enjoy supporting my country in many sports. To not go because your team messed up on the pitch, despite having a loaded deck of cards stacked in their favour, is a bit weird. It's not the sport's fault.
No.
They're completely unrelated. I too enjoy Rugby League. What i wouldn't enjoy is getting to St Helens and back on Sunday and Huddersfield and Leeds are jus not appealing. At all. Anyhoozle, i've covered those points for 20 years on this forum in their proper threads.
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Just now, JonM said:
Perhaps IMG can buy Mr. Hughes a leopard print jacket?
Got to give a little credit for pulling off the signing mid-season of someone who played stand-off in 2019 state of origin ahead of Cameron Munster (and keeping him out of trouble for 3 months).
I listened to game on radio. I've just joined the dots... the Norman fella is Corey Norman.
Wonderful.
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Just now, Leonard said:
Which is what will happen on Sunday.
Brilliant. I genuinely wish both clubs all the best.
Next season?
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1 minute ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:
One minute fans of clubs like Featherstone want promotion to the Super League to be all about what happens on the pitch, then the next they want it to be about some nebulous concept of what teams "bring to the game"
I wonder, does anyone know if anything happened yesterday in between those two different viewpoints? It's a mystery...
You're cherry picking.
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Just now, Leonard said:
Feels like fantasy.
See my 92 club football league analogy.
Feels like sport.
The 92 clubs that could all have a shot? You mean that pyramid? Have you seen the Wrexham doco? All about getting promotion...
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7 minutes ago, Leonard said:
What's the point for 90 percent of clubs in the champ and league one by that view.
To climb the table, to build and one day have a shot.
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4 minutes ago, Leonard said:
The common denominator to every argument is that Fev have not won on the pitch.
Not sure who's fault that is.
The club. Everyone is fine that they've lost. It's sport.
What you're failing to grasp, is that next year the effort on the pitch doesnt matter. Ergo, what's the point.
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2 minutes ago, Leonard said:
But Fev havn't won on the pitch?
So it is a pointless argument.
London and Toulouse will have done 3 times in the last few years and against the odds.
Its the last year that they could have won on the pitch though!!!
It's the very argument.
Next year now feels pointless as a result.
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3 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:
True but I aren’t sure Wakey are guaranteed much either. BV is still mainly rubbish
Aye, but that's not the point. Winning on the pitch should be everything*. Now it's not. this is what's creating emotion in the streets of station lane.
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Just now, The Masked Poster said:
No. Should Fev win the play off final next year, there would be very little reason to deny them promotion. I’m not saying it will be black and white but they actually do have a lot going for them.
But not enough. If they win the final next year, they should be up if they pass certain criteria. that'd be fair.
With IMG, they could win the final and still be surpassed by Wakey for example. It's silly.
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Just now, The Masked Poster said:
Aside from being in London, and developing southern players (which is a big deal really) they don’t have that much in their favour. Certainly not stadium or fans.
And? I'm struggling to see the point your making.
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1 minute ago, Chris Taylor said:
I've seen some shocking results in my time, but none feels more disappointing than last night - I don't even know where to begin.
I'm hoping that we now get some continuation in the coaching staff, and we can actually build a team that is there. I understood why Webster was let go a number of years ago, but funnily enough, we are still no further away. At least we played some nice rugby then, just weren't good enough that year.
I'd trim that playing budget, and invest that money in facilities / off field staff - keep the local players, and stop the naff social posts about winning - it's not classy at all.
On a final note, you have to feel gutted for Lockwood - he's been a cracking leader and been badly let down.
I think it needs a complete reset with a nod to players / leadership like Lockwood to be involved in some capacity.
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1 minute ago, The Masked Poster said:
That’s just your best guess though, you have no genuine idea what the Final Cut will look like (not a dig at you)
We have an educated reasoned idea that the scoring supports the incumbent, so there is that.
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11 hours ago, Barley Mow said:
I think the indicative grades will be very interesting. It will show exactly how much of an advantage Super League incumbency actually is.
I wouldn't be surprised if SL went back to 14 teams in the next few years. Funding will be the only issue. It would be something I would welcome if the finances stack up.
When are we likely to see those indicative grades?
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2 minutes ago, Rovers13 said:
I used to have sky go to every CC final now I don’t have sky and won’t attend any SL level game. That should sound alarm bells to hierarchy.
To be fair, you sound a bit odd, so probably not.
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1 minute ago, Leonard said:
I was told last night they were semi pro.
Note the '
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2 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:
But you don’t know that you won’t get promoted next year, you genuinely don’t.
But if it’s the long term health of the game that concerns you, it’s more likely to die if it doesn’t grow both domestically and internationally than whether Fev get promoted or not. And that’s with due respect, I know you are peed off right now.IMG comes in from next year doesn't it?
In not peed off in the slightest. I'm sad, but i'm mainly sad for people who have watched them home and away for 30 years. I know how they feel. I'm sad because it genuinely feels like the end of a long journey.
My personal view is that the game is on it's backside in this country and i've moved on a long time ago. I likely wont be attending an International game this year and i usually fly around the world to do at considerable expense.
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Just now, Leonard said:
I don't get the death of the club - and believe me London fans get enough of it.
I enjoy watching league at any level and sport in general. The idea of not watching the game because of whatever is just odd to me.
But like I say, London has its fair share of those.
This has been a cracking season whatever the result on Sunday and the idea of missing that as a London fan because of what went before or what comes after is bizarre to me.
The death of the club in it's current guise; as a 'professional' sports team.
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20 minutes ago, Leonard said:
Done that with London and after week 3 it is zero fun whatsoever. Had it at the Barnet days watching a load of 20yos.
The season we were unlucky to go down was fine, but there is a high chance of next to no wins and the old "it's great to be there" is just a mirage.
A significant bigger fan base = more enjoyment. I know i would have made at least 5 away games next year if they were promoted.
17 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:Is it really though? The argument used to go…”if they want to join RL they should start at the bottom “…which Toronto did but it was still apparently unfair because of reasons X, Y and Z. Sheffield were also classed as a drain on resources, as are Newcastle and as for London? They were just stealing a place of a true RL team.
They were happy when these teams presented no threat to their Status Quo and would pat them on the head after giving them a hammering. But now they’re had the nerve to actually win their ways to a promotion final? It’s bad for RL, rubbish crowds, bring nothing to the game, etc etc. Trust me brother, I’ve seen it.
Whose arguments are these? I'm a Fev fan from said town and i don't have these arguments.
Look through the raw emotion of it all and to some, it really is raw emotion and in my view, the anger / sadness is that we wont have a shot to get there again. For some, this is the death of the club and more widely, the sport.
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1 hour ago, The Masked Poster said:
Whatever the outcome of the final, London and Toulouse are in the final because of what happened on the pitch. This is something that many RL fans have been screaming out for as the only way to decide who gets promoted.
Well now it’s happening….and yet many of those same people don’t seem to like it? I don’t mean that Fev lost, it’s obvious Fev fans wouldn’t like that, I mean that apparently it means RL is now screwed as proper teams aren’t being promoted.
Come on guys, was it genuinely all about what happens on the pitch? Or was that just an excuse to try to keep those outsiders out? Because London won against a clear favourite, using a high percentage of southerners. Maybe they can play the game if given chance?Nah. I think people are upset because the proper way to get promoted is now over. The last paragraph is just silly.
44 minutes ago, Leonard said:Question for Fev fans.
When you would have gone down with 2 wins and regular pumpings, what was the plan then? Or was it just to get promoted at least once?
And yes I am aware the same is likely to happen to London or Toulouse.
Not sure I see your nirvana of promotion.
I genuinely ponder this myself. I think the plan would be to enjoy it. Going to watch your team versus Leeds away, Wigan home etc etc is fun isn't it. Sport eh. It feels as though the opportunity has now been taken away, that's why i'm gutted this morning.
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Cant concede 36 points at home. Ever.
To do it in a semi-final in what is an absolutely hugely significant game is bordering on criminal.
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What'd be the best radio station to listen to this?
The whining about the low GF attendance thread
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Quelle Surprise.