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  1. ELIMINATED Cameron Highlander - Eels - Storm - Dragons - Rabbitohs - Titans - Sea Eagles Spotty Herbert - Roosters - Storm - Panthers - Raiders - Warriors - Sea Eagles Better luck in heat 3, later in the season all those who were eliminated. SURVIVED Dee Deuce - Panthers - Storm - Sea Eagles - Eels - Titans - Cowboys Irish Saint - Panthers - Eels - Titans - Sea Eagles - Cowboys - Tigers Oldbear - Eels - Storm - Panthers - Sea Eagles - Titans - Cowboys Well done all those who survived and good luck in round 13. ROUND 13 THURSDAY JUNE 3 Dragons vs Broncos, Netstrata Jubilee Stadium, 7.50pm FRIDAY JUNE 4 Tigers vs Panthers, Bankwest Stadium, 7.55pm SATURDAY JUNE 5 Storm vs Titans, AAMI Park, 7.35pm SUNDAY JUNE 6 Knights vs Eels, McDonald Jones Stadium, 4.05pm TEAMS HAVING A BYE THIS ROUND Bulldogs, Cowboys, Rabbitohs, Raiders, Roosters, Sea Eagles, Sharks, Warriors DON'T FORGET TO ADD A COMBINDED SCORE WITH YOUR PICK THIS ROUND AS WE ARE DOWN TO 5 OR LESS PLAYERS
  2. Round 13 there will still be 4 games, So everyone should be able to still put in a pick they have not put in already....If I am wrong let me know...Cheers
  3. Jack de Belin has made his return to rugby league, 968 days since his last game. De Belin ran out for the Dragons against Magpies in the NSW Cup at Lidcombe Oval on Saturday. They lost 26-18. De Belin played for 44 minutes and was reportedly met with an overwhelmingly positive reception from the crowd and even opposition players. It was his first game since 2018, having been stood down by the NRL after being charged with rape. He started from the bench in the No.19 jersey. He was supported in the crowd by his partner and friends, as well as a number of other Dragons. It is the first step in his journey back to the NRL. De Belin is now available to be selected for St George Illawarra, and could play as soon as Thursday night against the Broncos. “I’d rather see how he gets thorough this,” Dragons coach Anthony Griffin told media after watching de Belin’s performance on Saturday. “It would be a big ask to play next Thursday. He’ll be terribly sore after today. “We’ll see what happens over the next couple of days. He wants to play as quickly as possible, and we want him on our list as quickly as possible, but we won’t do anything stupid that will put him in jeopardy of hurting himself after being out this long. “He was gassed after four or five minutes. But he’s been really effective. He’s been everywhere he needs to be and neat with his defence.” De Belin is set to return to training with the Dragons’ first-grade squad next week, though it is unclear when he will line up in the NRL. However, reports from the St George Illawarra camp state that he is in elite physical shape. De Belin’s new contract with the Dragons runs until the end of the 2023 season. NRL CEO Andrew Abdo stood by the policy that saw De Belin scrubbed out of playing for almost three years. “We make no apology for taking the hardest stance in Australian sport where our players are charged with serious criminal offences. We cannot remain indifferent to such charges, particularly those against women,’’ he said in a Thursday statement. “The “No-Fault Stand Down” rule upholds the values of the game, protects the game’s commercial relationships and provides safeguards for the very small number of players who find themselves the subject of serious criminal charges. “This is an example of our processes working. Jack continued to be employed by the club and was able to extend his contract with the Dragons during the process. “The rule worked as it should.”
  4. COURT PROCEEDINGS ARE NOT RUN BY THE MEDIA: JUDGE BLASTS LEAK OF JACK DE BELIN CHARGES BEING DROPPED A judge has asked how journalists were informed that Jack de Belin's sexual assault case would be withdrawn before a court was notified, telling lawyers that she is not pleased and noting court proceedings are not run by the media. Prosecutors formally withdrew four sexual assault charges against Mr de Belin on Friday, a day after lawyers confirmed the case would not proceed to a third trial. Mr de Belin, 30, and his friend Callan Sinclair, 24, faced two trials in the NSW District Court on five counts each of aggravated sexual assault after they were accused of assaulting a crying woman at a North Wollongong unit in the early hours of December 9, 2018. Both pleaded not guilty, maintaining the encounter was a consensual threesome. Earlier this month, a jury acquitted the men of one charge, relating to an allegation of anal intercourse. The remaining four charges each faced - which were presented on an indictment as three shared counts and one separate count each - remained unresolved when the jury was unable to reach a verdict. On Thursday, Crown prosecutor Craig Everson said the Director of Public Prosecutions directed there be no further proceedings in the case. Each indictment was marked as "spent". Judge Dina Yehia said she wants to know "how it is that the decision that was taken, to direct no further proceedings, seems to have come to the attention of the press before it came to the attention of this court". A judge has asked how journalists were informed that Jack de Belin's sexual assault case would be withdrawn before a court was notified, telling lawyers that she is not pleased and noting court proceedings are not run by the media. Prosecutors formally withdrew four sexual assault charges against Mr de Belin on Friday, a day after lawyers confirmed the case would not proceed to a third trial. Mr de Belin, 30, and his friend Callan Sinclair, 24, faced two trials in the NSW District Court on five counts each of aggravated sexual assault after they were accused of assaulting a crying woman at a North Wollongong unit in the early hours of December 9, 2018. Both pleaded not guilty, maintaining the encounter was a consensual threesome. Earlier this month, a jury acquitted the men of one charge, relating to an allegation of anal intercourse. The remaining four charges each faced - which were presented on an indictment as three shared counts and one separate count each - remained unresolved when the jury was unable to reach a verdict. On Thursday, Crown prosecutor Craig Everson said the Director of Public Prosecutions directed there be no further proceedings in the case. Each indictment was marked as "spent". Judge Dina Yehia said she wants to know "how it is that the decision that was taken, to direct no further proceedings, seems to have come to the attention of the press before it came to the attention of this court". Mr Everson said the Crown did not communicate this information to the press, and he understands it was leaked to The Daily Telegraph twenty minutes after the DPP emailed lawyers for Mr de Belin and Mr Sinclair. "Court proceedings are not run by the media, and it's a discourtesy to this court to have that decision leaked to the press before the proceedings are conducted in this court, when this court is notified in the appropriate form," Judge Yehia said. Mr Everson said he is in "furious agreement". Judge Yehia said she won't make further inquiries about how the information was leaked, because she has a busy day ahead, but "I'll tell you I'm not pleased about the way this information was leaked to the press". Speaking outside court, Mr de Belin's solicitor Robert Foster said the case has been "a very long road; no one had any idea just how long a road it would be". "The indictment has now been marked as ‘spent' and these proceedings are at an end. Jack de Belin is very relieved and looking forward to getting back to playing football," Mr Foster said. A 2½-week trial at Downing Centre District Court had been told the 19-year-old woman met Mr de Belin and Mr Sinclair at a nightclub, Mr Crown, on the evening of December 8. In her evidence, the woman said she went with the pair and believed they were taking a bike taxi to another club, but instead they went to a unit in a residential area. She said she initially declined to go inside, then went in to use the toilet. The woman said Mr de Belin walked into the en suite bathroom naked, while she was using the toilet, so she left the room. She said that when Mr de Belin emerged he undid her top, pushed her onto a bed and removed the rest of her clothing, then started "having sex with me" despite her saying "no". She said Mr Sinclair undressed and joined in, taking Mr de Belin's place, before the pair swapped several times. "They were both cheering each other on. Jack de Belin was going, ‘Yeah Cal, keep going,'" the woman said. "I was dead inside, I was numb, I was crying - that's all I was doing." In his evidence, Mr de Belin said he proposed a consensual threesome with the woman by saying to her: "me, you and Cal". "She responded, ‘but you have a girlfriend'," Mr de Belin said. "I responded, ‘I can keep a secret if you can'. After that, she winked back and smiled." In phone calls played to the jury, which had been secretly intercepted by police, Mr de Belin and Mr Sinclair maintained their innocence in conversations with friends, relatives and each other. Mr de Belin has not played since the end of the 2018 season after becoming the first player to be subject to the NRL's no-fault stand-down policy. Under the policy, players charged with an offence carrying a maximum prison term of 11 years or more are automatically stood down until their court proceedings are finalised. The St George Illawarra forward is expected to make his return this weekend. Speaking to Sydney radio station 2GB on Friday morning, Australian Rugby League Commission chair Peter V'landys was asked about the stand-down policy. He said he feels "sorry for Jack" but "we have a very serious position being custodians of the game and we have to consider the game as a whole". "We took one of the toughest stances in Australian sport and we had to," Mr V'landys said.
  5. Sexual assault charges against NRL player Jack de Belin have been dropped after the jury in two separate trials failed to reach a verdict. His co-accused Callan Sinclair has also been cleared. Earlier this month the pair were found not guilty on one charge and the jury could not make a majority decision on the other five. The NSW Director of Public Prosecutions has confirmed it would not pursue the five charges for a third time. De Belin and Sinclair pleaded not guilty to all charges relating to the alleged assault of a then-19-year-old woman in a Wollongong unit in 2018. The woman alleged she was sexually assaulted by the pair, however, de Belin and Sinclair insisted the encounter was consensual. The decision has cleared the path for de Belin to return to playing rugby league for the St George Illawarra Dragons, NRL CEO Andrew Abdo confirmed this afternoon. De Belin had been stood down under the no-fault stand down rule, which means players cannot play if they are charged with a serious crime. "We make no apology for taking the hardest stance in Australian sport where our players are charged with serious criminal offences," Mr Abdo said. "We cannot remain indifferent to such charges, particularly those against women. "The 'No-Fault Stand Down' rule upholds the values of the game, protects the game's commercial relationships and provides safeguards for the very small number of players who find themselves the subject of serious criminal charges. "This is an example of our processes working. "Jack continued to be employed by the club and was able to extend his contract with the Dragons during the process. "The rule worked as it should." Dragons CEO Ryan Webb also released a statement, saying, "today's outcome concludes a tumultuous period for all involved in the Jack de Belin matter. "I wish to thank the support received by our partners, members and fans throughout this entire process." The Dragons also confirmed de Belin wpuld remain at the club until at least the end of the 2023 season following the DDP's decision.
  6. WINNERS Storm Cowboys Dragons Panthers Eels Roosters Titans Sea Eagles TOTAL POINTS 353 AWAY WINS 5 POLL Tigers v Dragons
  7. The electoral roll used to be viewable to the public at any Australian post office up as far as the 1990's that was the last time I had to use it to trace someone's address.
  8. A very sad day for the game of Rugby League. I knew him when I was a kid back in the late 1960's Bob Fulton lived around the corner from me in Sydney's northern beaches suburb of Harbord (now known as Freshwater) these days. He was the greatest player to ever play for the Sea Eagles by far, It was a total stroke of luck for Manly that Bob's 1st grade debut was with the Sea Eagles in the first place. In the pre season of 1966 Bob had been trialling with the then defending premiers St George Dragons on a Friday afternoon he was told to turn up at the Dragons Secretary Frank Facers office on the Monday morning and sign a contract with the Dragons to play for them.....But on the Saturday morning Sea Eagles Secretary Ken Arthurson slipped in and convinced Fulton to sign with the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles. It turned out Fulton was the biggest Signing of Arthurson's career and the biggest miss signing of Facers career. I watched him play many a game at Brookvale oval along with some other Manly Greats I'd met Freddy Jones and Bob Batty. I was always a Dragons supporter but Fulton was always up at the top along with Langlands, Gasnier and Raper as my favorite players even still to this day. Never a better Centre or Five Eight in my book to pull on the Green and Gold jersey of Australia than Bob Fulton. Bob Fulton played hard and took the game to a higher level of professionalism and will be an Immortal of the Game of Rugby League till the end of time. R. I. P. Bob Fulton
  9. ELIMINATED Harrigan - Eels - Storm - Panthers - Sea Eagles - Roosters Better luck in heat 3, later in the season all those who were eliminated. SURVIVED Dee Deuce - Panthers - Storm - Sea Eagles - Eels - Titans Irish Saint - Panthers - Eels - Titans - Sea Eagles - Cowboys Oldbear - Eels - Storm - Panthers - Sea Eagles - Titans Cameron Highlander - Eels - Storm - Dragons - Rabbitohs - Titans Spotty Herbert - Roosters - Storm - Panthers - Raiders - Warriors Well done all those who survived and good luck in round 12. ROUND 12 THURSDAY MAY 27 Broncos vs Storm, Suncorp Stadium, 7.50pm FRIDAY MAY 28 Cowboys vs Warriors, Queensland Country Bank Stadium, 6pm Tigers vs Dragons, Bankwest Stadium, 7.55pm SATURDAY MAY 29 Panthers vs Bulldogs, Panthers Stadium, 3pm Rabbitohs vs Eels, ANZ Stadium, 5.30pm Roosters vs Raiders, Perth, 5.30pm SUNDAY MAY 30 Sharks vs Titans, Coffs Harbour, 2pm Knights vs Sea Eagles, McDonald Jones Stadium, 4.05pm DON'T FORGET TO ADD A COMBINDED SCORE WITH YOUR PICK THIS ROUND AS WE ARE DOWN TO 5 OR LESS PLAYERS
  10. WINNERS Cowboys Warriors Dragons Titans Roosters Storm Panthers Eels TOTAL POINTS 337 HOME WINS 5 POLL Cowboys 12th v Knights 11th (Cowboys win 1 place upset)
  11. ELIMINATED No eliminations this round Better luck in heat 3, later in the season all those who were eliminated. SURVIVED Dee Deuce - Panthers - Storm - Sea Eagles - Eels Irish Saint - Panthers - Eels - Titans - Sea Eagles Oldbear - Eels - Storm - Panthers - Sea Eagles Cameron Highlander - Eels - Storm - Dragons - Rabbitohs Spotty Herbert - Roosters - Storm - Panthers - Raiders Harrigan - Eels - Storm - Panthers - Sea Eagles Well done all those who survived. ROUND 11 THURSDAY MAY 20 Cowboys vs Knights, Queensland Country Bank Stadium, 7.50pm FRIDAY MAY 21 Warriors vs Tigers, Mt Smart Stadium, 6pm Sharks vs Dragons, Netstrata Jubilee Stadium, 7.55pm SATURDAY MAY 22 Titans vs Bulldogs, Cbus Super Stadium, 3pm Roosters vs Broncos, SCG, 5.30pm Raiders vs Storm, GIO Stadium, 7.35pm SUNDAY MAY 23 Rabbitohs vs Panthers, Dubbo, 2pm Eels vs Sea Eagles, Bankwest Stadium, 4.05pm
  12. THIS IS WHAT COMES INTO CONSIDERATION IF THERE IS TO BE A THIRD TRIAL Will DPP move for the third trial against NRL stars Jack de Belin and Callan Sinclair? Two hung juries, three shattered lives, where to now? There will need to be exceptional circumstances to hold a third trial over rape allegations against NRL stars Jack de Belin and Callan Sinclair. Will NRL star Jack de Belin stand trial over rape allegations for the third time? The multimillion-dollar question will ultimately come down to the call of the state’s Director of Public Prosecutions Lloyd Babb SC and his deputies. But it will not just be a gut feeling call. Two hung juries and the possibility of a third trial is an extremely rare situation. But the Office of the DPP has guidelines that set out what must be considered when deciding to prosecute for a third time. Under the NRL’s “no-fault stand-down policy”, de Belin, 30, a high-profile player for the St George-Illawarra Dragons, has not played a game since he was charged in December 2018. De Belin and Shellharbour Sharks player Callan Sinclair are accused of raping a woman at a North Wollongong unit during a night out in December 2018. Since then, two trials in the District Court have resulted in divided jurors unable to reach an agreement on whether the two men are guilty or not. Asked this week if Mr. Babb had come to a decision, a ODPP spokeswoman said: “No decision has been made concerning whether the matter will proceed to a further trial. A decision will be made before the matter is next in court.” ODPP insiders were more clear in telling The Saturday Telegraph that a third trial was unlikely, but not impossible. The main reason for a third trial not happening was because of the circumstances where two juries were divided, with little reason to believe a third set of jurors would be any different — making it a pointless exercise. One insider said: “There is absolutely 99.99 per cent chance that they will not do it again — not after two hung juries.” Another had a different view. “Officially, the ODPP is only concerned with applying the law. But this is an extremely high-profile matter, and to be seen to be dropping the case could be interpreted as backing down, so it might be run again anyway.” During the last court appearance, after the second jury were discharged, Crown Prosecutor David Scully SC told Judge Nicole Noman SC that the ODPP would consider its position and update the court on whether a third trial would occur when the matter next appeared in court, on May 28. Until then, let’s take a look at what Mr Babb will have to consider. According to the ODPP’s Prosecution Guidelines, it is a simple equation and comes down to one factor. “Where two juries have been unable to agree upon a verdict, a retrial will be directed only in exceptional circumstances,” the guidelines say. “Any such direction must be given by the Director or a Deputy Director.” It sounds simple, but there are some complexities when it comes to “exceptional circumstances”. So what are they? EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES Exceptional circumstances is a conveniently broad term and no definition is given in the prosecution guidelines. But one DPP source said there were three major factors when considering if exceptional circumstances exist. The first is: Is there new and compelling evidence to warrant hearing the case again? “But we’re not talking small meaningless evidence,” the source said. “It has to be new and compelling evidence that could push the jury to a decision in either direction. “If not, there is no point going to all the cost of hearing the case again if it’s going to be a hung jury again,” the source said. The second factor considers the reason why the jurors could not come to a decision in the first two trials. This supports an argument for de Belin not standing trial a third time. “If the juries were discharged for reasons other than they couldn’t come to a unanimous decision, this could be considered as an exceptional circumstance,” the ODPP source said. “(Examples would be) If jurors were discharged for researching things on the internet or if one of them was sick — it goes to if there is a possibility that the jurors could reach a decision and didn’t get the chance,” the source said. The third factor is whether the jury was close to reaching a unanimous decision in one or both of the earlier trials. In these cases, they weren’t. Towards the end of the second trial, Judge Noman asked the jury if they were close to a majority verdict. This means the jury could be allowed to declare a verdict if there was an 11-1 split between what the jurors thought the verdict should be. Usually, the courts require all 12 jurors to agree on the verdict. The jury informed judge Noman that this was not the case, indicating that the jury was divided and could not even come to a majority verdict. From a legal perspective, it supports the argument for not running the case again, the DPP source said. “Twice the jury couldn’t agree — and there is nothing to suggest anything will change if they go for a third time,” the source said. COSTS IN THE MILLIONS The other elements that will come up for consideration are the public interest and the cost to both accused to run the trial a third time — and whether either can be justified. Both are simple considerations, and weigh up the benefits of what will be achieved through a third trial, as well as the cost to the public purse and both footballers. On the public side of it, the costs will include the resources used for the trial that include a crown prosecutor for another two-week trial, their solicitors, the time allocated for the judge to hear the case and everything down to the court that will be used. “The question will be: Is a third time for the case more important than the other cases the lawyers could be working on, that the judge could be hearing and that the courtroom could be used for?” the DPP source said. For de Belin and Sinclair, the case would have come at a huge financial cost to hire lawyers to defend them and — particularly for de Belin — the amount of money he has lost by not playing for the St George-Illawarra Dragons. So is it fair that they have to pay again? This needs to be weighed up against the likelihood that the jury will reach a verdict. One defence lawyer estimated that de Belin — who has retained David Campbell SC to defend him — would be closing in on $1 million for his court costs. So far, de Belin has retained barristers and solicitors to defend him for two criminal trials — the last of which ran for 2½ weeks — and his challenge to the Federal Court of Australia against the NRL’s no-fault stand-down policy. “To give you a picture, his barrister would cost anywhere from $7000 to $10,000 a day and his solicitors would likely charge $3000 to $4000 a day,” the criminal lawyer said. “And there is also preparation time that needs to be paid for if I was doing this trial,” the lawyer said. “I did a similar trial and charged for a week of prep time because that is how long you need to spend examining the material to defend someone.” Given the way the cases have played out, there is next to no chance that the court could order the ODPP to pay De Belin and Sinclair’s legal fees. In short, if a case goes spectacularly badly for the prosecution, the judge can make an order that the ODPP pay the legal costs of the accused. But the DPP source said this would not happen. “The fact that there has been two hung juries means there was a prima facie case,” the source said. “You don’t get costs orders in lineball cases.” A prima facie case means there was enough evidence to justify prosecutors bringing a case to court. “But this needs to be weighed up against the idea that you can’t just keep pounding an accused with trial after trial,” the DPP source said. THE ALLEGED VICTIM AND THE POLICE The DPP will also consider the opinions of the alleged victim in the case and the police when making the decision about a third trial. One of the primary considerations is the mental health of the woman. Will it be damaging to her psychologically to expect her to give evidence, in what can be a combative environment, for a third time? Or should a recording of her evidence from the first two trials be played to a jury in the third trial to avoid this? But if it is just a recording from two cases where two juries could not decide, is there any expectation that a third jury would come to a different decision to the first two? The police are also key stakeholders in that they collected all of the evidence used to prosecute the case, so they need to have a say. Police close to the case said they believed a third trial was unlikely because of the inevitable extra trauma the alleged victim would face. The high-profile case had also taken its toll on other prosecution witnesses. But they stressed no decision had been made and it was still on the “discussion table” and being considered very carefully. Ultimately the final decision lay with the DPP, police said. The alleged victim declined to comment. To some observers, it may seem unusual that de Belin and Sinclair could be found not guilty of charges they anally raped the complainant but that the jury could still be undecided on charges relating to the rest of the alleged sexual assault. According to one criminal defence lawyer, this is because each of the charges de Belin and Sinclair face relate to individual and specific acts that allegedly occurred. “In this case, you’ve got to have the physical element — the act — and the mental element — the intent to do it,” the lawyer said. “If it occurred accidentally and there was no intent the person can’t be guilty of the offence.” The evidence in the case appeared to back this theory. In court, the complainant agreed she was facing de Belin with her back to the wall and claimed he turned her legs to the side and deliberately tried to penetrate her other orifice. “And that’s when I screamed ‘stop’ because it really hurt,” the woman told the court. Asked by Crown Prosecutor David Scully what happened next, she replied: “He took it out.” “Did he say anything?” Mr Scully continued. “I think he said ‘sorry’,” she responded. De Belin gave a similar account and gave evidence that “(I) accidentally prodded my penis inside … the wrong hole”. “I could tell she grimaced and it wasn’t pleasant and said ‘oh’. I said ‘sorry’,” he told the court. De Belin told the court “I asked her if she could help a brother out” and she guided him from there before the sex resumed, the court heard. JUDGE ALONE TRIAL If the trial was to be heard in front of a judge alone without a jury, it would be up for de Belin and Sinclair’s legal teams to argue for it. This has not occurred so far. AFFIRMATIVE CONSENT Rape trials can live or die on the issue of consent. A complainant alleges she did not consent and the accused ought to have known that, while the accused argues she actually was consenting, or that he had a reasonable belief in consent. There is no obligation for the accused to give evidence, so the focus falls on the alleged victim to explain what she did or didn’t do to articulate her lack of consent. In de Belin’s case, the complainant spent more than three days in the witness box answering questions in minute detail about her actions that night. Did she look fondly into de Belin’s eyes? Why was she seen laughing with De Belin and Sinclair after the alleged assault if she really was raped? A jury’s task in deciding whether there was no consent and whether the accused had no reasonable grounds for believing there was has been likened to mental gymnastics. There is the legal definition of consent and then trying to decide what the accused’s state of mind was at the time. On top of that, there are the judge’s directions that a jury must take on board during deliberations and their own assessment of the alleged victim’s credibility. It is estimated less than 10 per cent of all sexual assaults reported to NSW Police result in finalised charges in court.
  13. WINNERS Knights Sea Eagles Raiders Rabbitohs Roosters Eels Dragons Panthers TOTAL POINTS 347 AWAY WINS 6 POLL 1 or 2 teams
  14. ELIMINATED StormGirl - Panthers - Rabbitohs - No pick entered Better luck in heat 3, later in the season all those who were eliminated. SURVIVED Dee Deuce - Panthers - Storm - Sea Eagles Irish Saint - Panthers - Eels - Titans Oldbear - Eels - Storm - Panthers Cameron Highlander - Eels - Storm - Dragons Spotty Herbert - Roosters - Storm - Panthers Harrigan - Eels - Storm - Panthers Well done all those who survived. ROUND 10 - (Magic Round, All Games Played At Suncorp Stadium In Queensland This Round) THURSDAY MAY 13 NO GAME TO BE PLAYED THURSDAY NIGHT FRIDAY MAY 14 Tigers vs Knights, 6pm Sea Eagles vs Broncos, 7.55pm SATURDAY MAY 15 Bulldogs vs Raiders, 3pm Sharks vs Rabbitohs, 5.30pm Roosters vs Cowboys, 7.45pm SUNDAY MAY 16 Warriors vs Eels, 1.50pm Storm vs Dragons, 4.05pm Titans vs Panthers, 6.25pm
  15. WINNERS Rabbitohs Panthers Eels Raiders Titans Broncos Sea Eagles Dragons TOTAL POINTS 333 HOME WINS 6 POLL 3 or 4 teams
  16. My thoughts on this subject I started talking about back in 1982 when the Canberra Raiders & the Illawarra Steelers came into the then NSWRFL competition and made it a 14 team competition for the first time. I agree 100% of the idea of relegation & promotion in the NRL and I votes yes for it in both polls. Bellow is my differences to what is in the media in Australia today. 1...It should be 14 teams in division 1 & division 2. 2...Each team in both divisions play each other twice, in a home & away set of 26 rounds followed by a 5 team semi finals series in both divisions 3...The salary cap has to be even across both divisions. 4. The idea of teams in the 2nd division lending their star players to the teams in the 1st division does not make sense to me (What I see with that is, the 2nd division clubs being nothing more than feeder clubs to the 1st division clubs) The 2nd division clubs would need their star players to help them get out of 2nd division and into the 1st division competition the following year. 5. I am also open to the idea of last place in 1st division playing the premiers of 2nd division at the end of the semi final series to see who gets promoted or relegated, but don't feel as strong on that to the other 4 differences above. Please add your ideas on this subject of promotion & relegation below.
  17. RESULTS SO FAR IN AN AUSTRALIAN MEDIA POLL Do you support a promotion/relegation system in the NRL? Yes 56% No 44% 678 Voters So Far If you would like to vote in this poll here is the link to the poll below NRL 2021: Buzz Rothfield’s promotion, relegation system for rugby league | Daily Telegraph
  18. The future of rugby league has been the subject of much debate around conferences, expansion and bush footy. Here’s a solution....Story By Phil (Buzz) Rothfield Bring back the North Sydney Bears and, while we’re at it, the Newtown Jets. And do it without affecting the quality of the NRL competition. The future of rugby league has been the subject of much debate around conferences, expansion, a lopsided competition and the survival of bush footy. One option the NRL should consider is promotion and relegation like in UK soccer. Relegate two clubs to have a streamlined 14-team NRL premiership and a 10-team Championship (2nd division.) Here’s how it would work. The two-conference proposal first raised seven years ago in this newspaper will not improve the standard of the product each week. It will actually make it worse in that there are not enough quality football players to fill 16 teams, let alone 18. The gap between the top and bottom teams is too great. We see it every week. Reducing the number of teams will create a much stronger NRL competition with fewer blowouts and more regular blockbusters. Players that aren’t quite first graders can join a Championship team. THE DESPERATION There would be as much interest in the bottom end of the ladder as the top. Lower teams would be as desperate to avoid relegation as top clubs are to make the finals. It would add huge interest at the back end of the season to games that are normally dead rubbers. This will surely increase the quality of football, attendances and television ratings. Imagine the interest if St George-Illawarra was playing the Wests Tigers and needed to win to avoid relegation in the final round. You’d need a big stadium. DETAILS AT A GLANCE * Initially two teams relegated from bottom of the ladder * 1 team promoted and relegated each year * 14 strong NRL clubs * New 10-team Championship (2nd division) * Not as many blowouts * More blockbuster games * Huge interest in bottom placed NRL teams late in season * Huge interest in top Championship teams late in season * Brings back the Bears and Newtown * Puts the onus on the clubs to get their houses in order * Massive boost for bush football * League on the Central Coast * Loan player arrangements for promoted clubs * Championship match of the round on TV Wednesday nights DEMOTED NRL CLUBS The bottom two teams on the premiership ladder would initially drop to The Championship. Then the bottom team each year would be relegated. It sounds harsh and there would no doubt be met with outrage by fans of underperforming NRL clubs like the Wests Tigers, the Canterbury Bulldogs or even the Cronulla Sharks. However tough and not always fan-friendly calls need to be made. Uncompetitive teams on the receiving end of blowouts each week are hurting the quality of the NRL competition. Let them go back to The Championship, get their house in order, then try to make it back through better management. This will force them to think smarter and run a business as well as clubs like the Roosters, Rabbitohs, Storm and the Parramatta Eels. THE PLAYERS So what happens to the star NRL players from the clubs that are demoted? The players could be lent to clubs in the NRL competition. Like Melbourne Storm, the Wests Tigers and Harry Grant last year. It can be done. The promoted Championship club each year would get first crack in a draft for these players. NRL 14-TEAM COMP $10 million salary cap Teams: Panthers, Storm, Eels, Roosters, Raiders, Rabbitohs, Knights, Sharks, Titans Warriors, Manly, Dragons, Broncos, Cowboys * Play each other twice * Top 5 finals series * Bottom team drops to Championship THE CHAMPIONSHIP Imagine the excitement around a fairytale return for traditional old clubs like the North Sydney Bears and the Newtown Jets. While these clubs at the moment are nowhere near in a position to be running an NRL side, this at least leaves the door ever so slightly ajar for it to happen in the future. Both clubs still have enormous fan bases. The Championship 10-team competition would also put rugby league back on the Central Coast. This is a thriving rugby league area but lacks enough corporate support to have an NRL franchise. This would change if they won The Championship. It would also be a way help new expansion clubs like a second Brisbane or New Zealand team get their introductions into a professional environment. Teams would have a salary cap of $4 million. CHAMPIONSHIP 10-TEAM COMP $4 million salary cap Teams: Wests Tigers, 2nd Brisbane team, Bulldogs, Wellington (NZ), NSW Country, Perth, Central Coast, North Sydney Bears, Newtown, Mackay NSW COUNTRY This would give country football the lift and revitalisation it so desperately needs. The side could be based out of the Riverina, (population 155,000) and once a rugby league heartland before the AFL steamrolled into Wagga Wagga. It could be a satellite team playing home games in country towns like Dubbo, Bathurst, Mudgee, Tamworth, Armidale and Coffs Harbour but the majority of games out of the Riverina. It would mean high quality rugby league in the bush every weekend. Youngsters in country towns would dream of making the side and getting TV exposure along a pathway to the NRL. TV COVERAGE Having two competitions would allow the NRL to spread the coverage of the game around the TV networks, like what happens with major sport in the United States. All Championship matches would be covered on TV as well as NRL. The match of the round could become a regular Wednesday night game on Fox Sports. THE REACTION Peter V’Landys has always said he will listen to the fans. This is fantastic. However you can’t be completely driven by the parochialism of rugby league supporters. There will be initial pain but tough decisions need to be made in big business and in sport.
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