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  1. 1 minute ago, Tabby said:

    What should he do? Bury his head in the sand like most in this sport.

    First and foremost, don't do any of it in public and don't group people together to slag them all off.  All that will do is disenfranchise those who are working hard and trying their best.

    In any organisation there are underperformers to identify and manage out. But you do that behind closed doors and you don't let that impact the wider culture in the business.  Praise widely and challenge those who need to be challenged. 

    As a leader he should be showing positivity - not just for those there today but also to attract talent in the future.

    In any organisation there are 5% or so who spread disharmony and create a toxic culture.  Leadership is about identifying and removing that.  Unfortunately, one of the 5% here may be the leader.

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  2. 8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

    In respect of the playing roster, at the outset the weakest of all the teams but the numbers of players available for most of the season has been really bad, and even when 17 could be put out there has been 4 half backs in the starting lineup many times playing in the forwards.

    All fair enough.  But in what way does it mitigate the terrible leadership he has displayed by publicly slagging off his playing staff?

  3. 6 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

    As daft as it sounds, after the best have all been signed there is a market for the "also rans" who have not secured a contract.

    I just don't really understand this attitude.

    Yes, you would expect the teams at the top of the league to have the first choice of players by providing opportunity to win things alongside the cap spend etc.  But there is (as you say) a market for the players who may be 'also ran's' .  It just feels to me that if you don't have the biggest budget so why hinder yourself any further by also portraying a culture within the business that appears unattractive.  It is self defeating.

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  4. 3 minutes ago, Tabby said:

    This thread is mixing up leadership with management. All are having a pop at Mr Beaumont’s cost. Yet nothing around management. Motivation is out of the question for the reasons above.

    I am happy for us to disagree on this.  If you see this as good leadership and a suitable way for the owner to operate then fine.

    Personally, if I were a potential employee, I would go nowhere near a business or organisation that demonstrated this type of leadership. 

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  5. 26 minutes ago, Tabby said:

    Not about motivation. It’s about making employees accountable for underperforming. Let’s face it you wouldn’t last long in any job these days for poor performance.

    In this context you are mixing up leadership and management.

    The manager of the individuals in question should challenge performance and expect more - as well as providing guidance support and opportunities to deliver.  Here, the manager is the coach and this all happens behind closed doors.

    The leader sets out the vision for the business/organisation and it is all about direction and culture.  The leader typically provides positivity and motivation.

    What these programme notes do is undermine the entire culture of the club and set a precedent for blaming others.  It is appalling leadership.

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  6. 16 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

    This is how I understand it , Dereck didn't refuse to provide the flights back to Australia , he did however suggest waiting until more flights ( at lower cost ) become available later in the year , the figure of £ 8,000 was mentioned as being the cost at that time 

    I am glad he wasn't refusing.  Just delaying until an unspecified future time when a variable reaches an unstated level as the trigger to take action.  But again, glad he wasn't refusing.

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  7. 8 hours ago, clogdance said:

    He did it because on the day of Lord Peter Smith's funeral the player's threatened to not to play at magic weekend. Did DB comment when we lost 64-0 to Catalans or when Hull put 60 points past us at our place (when they could only name a squad of 17)....NO !

    I was going to ask when I read the screenshot of the programme but there was a lot in there. 

    What was the context for the reference to Lord Peter Smith's funeral, what is the correlation between that event and the players alleged threat not to play at Majoc?

  8. 9 minutes ago, DoubleD said:


    I have to disagree, I think he was better in the previous couple of seasons. He’s had quite a few underwhelming games this year; he hadn’t made the impact as a starting prop in a number of games, hence being benched. But his defence has been more concerning, he’s looked less mobile and has been exposed numerous times around the ruck. 

    I have to disagree with this as well.  I think he has had his best year, not least because he is assuming the role as a leader in the pack.  2020 and 2021 have been his best for run metres per game while his missed tackles are down and tackle busts up this year so his game is improving year on year.

    In the modern game, playing off the interchange bench is not being 'benched' as if some kind of performance issue... it is just that the coach sees you having an impact there.  The Rabbitohs have a better win record this year when he comes off the bench and so he is clearly having a positive effect there. 

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  9. 2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

    Well it is up to everyone who I have offended to tell me otherwise, it seems that saying Mr Beaumont got a desired reaction from his comments after all the 'stupid man's' comments from our resident experts has caused some consternation.

    I'm genuinely interested Harry.  I have not commented on the politics of Leigh being in Super League or next year's make up, just the content and tone of the programme article.

    Do you genuinely believe that it was correct for him to write that article, to criticise his squad for their behaviour and effort and their lack of support in his charity efforts?  Are you really happy with him airing his dirty laundry in public?

    And I don't buy the 'he is a millionaire so we can't criticise him' argument... there is nothing infallible about being a millionaire. 

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  10. 8 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

    Well guy's for all your nerdy comments, it seems the psychology Mr Beaumont used worked a treat with how the team responded, but you all know better don't you? Maybe that is why he is a millionaire and you lot spend most of your time on this platform.

    Whatever the result today, this is no way for a leader to behave.  You don't publicly criticize the attitude and culture within your organization, you deal with that behind closed doors.

    All he is doing here is showcasing a toxic business from the top down.  As someone has said previously, this is no way to attract new people to the organization, it is also no way to attract new partners, sponsors and new investments.  One result does not change that.  Today was not a good day for Leigh, whatever the short term results. 

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  11. 58 minutes ago, David Shepherd said:

    He really is a part.

    Essay writing skills of a 3 year old too.

    Got to feel for the players having such a tuurd for a boss. Let’s not forget the 1/2 leopard print tracky either.

    I'm not sure which I find more shocking, the fact that he has actually decided that releasing this content is a good idea (it is the exact opposite of how a leader should behave) or the appalling quality of the writing.  It is almost unintelligible at times. 

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  12. On 05/09/2021 at 13:38, Graham said:

    So who’ll win it?

    I have TTurbo out in front for me.

    He must be favourite as he had some massive performances but I still think Nathan Cleary will be very close.  He was 6 points ahead the last time we saw and when Penrith win... which they do a lot... he is always front and centre.  This week was the first time Penrith lost with Cleary playing this year wasn't it.

  13. 6 minutes ago, OMEGA said:

    Tom Burgess has really kicked on in the absence of his brothers. He’s now playing at a level that I believe is above that of which George was playing when he was at his best.

    In Walmsley and Tom Burgess we have two of the best Prop forwards in the world complimented further by Thompson and quite possibly joined by Matty Lees or Mikalai Oledski. 

    Thats not a bad front row rotation for an international team!

    He has been consistently very good this year and today as the intensity ramped up in the finals his performance against the Penrith pack was superb. 

    James Fisher-Harris has been (rightly) lauded as the best prop in the NRL this year but Burgess completely outplayed him.

  14. On 09/09/2021 at 15:49, The Hallucinating Goose said:

    I'm also very jumpy around bees and wasps and this is because I have never actually been stung by one and my mother is massively allergic and can even die from a string from one so I guess I'm just very aware that that allergy could have been passed on to me as well and I don't particularly want to put it to the test. 

    Is that not something that can be tested for? My daughter has some mild allergies and she has that pin pick test every year where they put a little bit of everything on the skin and then see the reactions.  I would have thought bee/was sting could be tested.

    Would provide a bit of peace of mind.

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