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  1. You’re not alone there, I do it all the time. I have to constantly check myself that Ullans (the Ulster dialect of Scots) is a legitimate and, arguably, oppressed language, with native speakers dedicated to it’s survival who deserve support and which does not deserve to be vilified because it is now used as a stick to beat down Irish by the same opportunistic Unionist ruling class charlatans who once vilified it as uneducated when it was of no use to them.
  2. Gaeilge is just the Irish/Gaelic word for the language and is usually used in English in a kind of affectionate way by speakers or, as you say, in a context where calling it Irish or Gaelic would be unclear. I suspected it must be in the north which ties into the historical/political context I mentioned earlier. I wonder if the use of Gaelic vs Irish is divided by community? Historically the use of the name Gaelic Instead of Irish was often a subtle attempt to downplay the connection between the language and the land for political reasons. Obviously this doesn’t happen in the South anymore but still does in the North with the DUP etc. Obviously the vast majority of people who call it Gaelic instead of Irish are not Gregory Campbell types but that’s where the negative association comes from I think. Scotland is a great example of this. When the ruling class and the majority of the population of Scotland were Gaelic speaking, the speakers of “Inglis” (what we would now call Scots) referred to Gaelic as “Scots”. When the ruling class were gradually became dominated by “Inglis” speakers, “Inglis” became “Scots” and “Scots” or Gaelic, became “Erse” or Irish. This was an obvious attempt by the new ruling class to present their language as the true “National language”, justifying their power over the state as part of the increasing conflict between the lowland, Scots-speaking aristocracy and the highland, Gaelic-speaking clan chiefs. It presented the Gaelic language as foreign and, worse still, Irish, which was at the time presented as a land of backward savages which needed to be civilised by Scottish colonists. The effects of this are obvious to me to this day where reaction in Scotland to attempts to preserve Scottish Gaelic are met with absurd levels of opposition, and there is widespread denial of the connection of Gaelic to anywhere outside of the highlands, even areas with obviously Gaelic place names. Ironically, following the Act of Union, when Standard English Replaced Scots as the language of the ruling class, Scots became the victim of a similar campaign of vilification and was, and still is, presented as simply bad English, spoken by the uneducated, rather than a language in its own right which lost its status as the language of political power. You can extend this argument to anywhere really, even within the same language - why is a broad Yorkshire accent any less “proper English” than a generic middle class English accent? Because the latter has political power. This was an insanely long post but my basic point is that languages are inherently political and What they are and were called and how they are viewed by different populations reflects the political history of those populations. People will react to those languages and what they are called as a result of those histories, even if they are not consciously aware that they are doing so.
  3. Táim go maith Kiwi, agus tú féin? I'm fluent but not a native speaker. I grew up near the Gaeltacht though. That's a complicated one with a long answer! Technically Gaelic is a family of languages or dialects that includes the various Gaelic languages/dialects of Ireland, Scotland and the Isle of Man. A lot of Irish people have, to me, an illogical dislike of people calling the language Gaelic instead of Irish. There are historical/political reasons why this is a valid view but in my experience for most of the people who take issue with calling the language Gaelic don't consider these and their objections are just pedantry or a force of habit, Still though, almost everyone in Ireland calls it Irish so you're best to go with that. Where's that Mr C? I've genuinely never heard another Irish person call it Gaelic instead of Irish in everyday speech.
  4. None of them are native speakers but the first two were pretty good, particularly the second guy (first guys accent wasn't great). Third guy tried his best but was fairly basic and Ronan Michael at the end, well, here's a direct translation: "A lot of person are playing football and playing rugby union, so eh, this boys are wonderful". Fair play to him for trying though!
  5. You're obviously not relying on First Bus!
  6. There’s no point in engaging any more with that bigoted troll.
  7. I’m not talking about pressure they might feel. I mean the perception it creates about Catalans and their youth policy. You didn’t just praise him. It was clearly implied in your post that Catalans should have played him by now. I’ll just wait a few weeks and you’ll have another whinge thread about the state of French rugby league with no consideration for the reality of their situation.
  8. With all the wit and historical awareness of a brexit negotiator, they’re implying that selecting players born in the six counties who are, as per the GFA, Irish with no qualification, is the same as selecting a player from Britain on the granny rule. The fact that this was said by someone touting his Mayo ancestors a couple of pages ago is a perfect illustration of why you can have all the Irish “heritage” in the world and still not have a clue about Ireland.
  9. Why do you keep making these threads year after year every time a Catalan youth player shows a bit of promise? I places a ridiculous amount of expectation on young french players that they will never live up to (see Lucas Albert) and feeds the myth on this forum that Catalans have this constant supply of French teenage world beaters that, inexplicably, they are refusing to play. At any other SL club Salabio would just be seen as a good prospect who might hopefully make a step up in a few years.
  10. The website design is really weird. The stream should be the centrepiece but it’s very difficult to find.
  11. Was the the involvement of RLI in the “GB RL Lions” agreed to by the new board or the old board? I don’t want to go overboard criticising volunteers but it’s genuinely hard to believe that Irish people saw no issue with Ireland’s involvement with that team with it’s name, jersey, flag and anthem.
  12. You're both right. Ireland has a very small, but genuine and committed, cricket grassroots that Rugby League doesn't have. However it's also true that before we beat England a few years ago in whatever tournament it was we beat England in it had made practically zero penetration in wider Irish society. It's still a tiny minority sport though, albeit bigger than Rugby League. The important point that's relevant for this thread is that anyone who thinks that involving Ireland in "Great Britain RL" is a good way to promote the sport here is someone who knows absolutely nothing about Ireland and should be nowhere near the administration of a sport. So that includes everyone at Rugby League Ireland, most of whom are probably English.
  13. One family tradition my brothers and I still do is to go for a swim outdoors on Christmas morning and/or New Years Day. These days its in the relatively mild Irish sea but growing up it was in a lake. I have a vivid childhood memory of my uncles having to go at the lake with pick axes to break open the ice before jumping in. Those boys were hardy hoors. This is still a fairly common tradition in Ireland. My presents were always wrapped though!
  14. Their squad seems to have been weakened a lot in the off season unfortunately.
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