Harry Stottle

What about the moo cow with her noisy dangling thingy? Just joking Hudds fans.

I thought Caddick was the owner, but as you can see the report is only a couple of weeks old, you never know what is going on with these rich folk.

According to this very recent post from Yorkshire Live Stephanie's dad is Andrew Thirkill, a Leeds businessman and owner of the Leeds Rhinos rugby team.28 Mar 2024

The Hull/Leeds alliance resurrected? We had Kath and Gary Hetherington at their respective clubs at the same time, and now we have Ritchie Myler for those who don't know his partner Stephanie Thirkhill is the daughter of Leeds Rhinos owner Andrew Thirkhill.

Aye but would you play it in a terraced street? Broken widows?

Hi Dave, I don't know who that first sentence is directed at but presumably those you disagree with, A bit harsh wasn't it? If you are bring critical of what I wrote about expansion, I don't know why you are quoting two overseas clubs I was specifically talking about RL expansion within the confines of the UK, the game doesn't travel well away from the heartlands it is simply not appreciated enough by the locals to take hold as has been proven in the past. In relation to the two overseas teams you quote yes fans in this country have/did visit them in good numbers and I should imagine will continue to do so, but I strongly suggest not just for the game but as I did the opportunity to visit places I would most likely not have done but for the rugby, on that respect if Toulouse do go up under this system, do you think that will retract from the numbers who visit Catalan or double the numbers visiting France? As for the discounts some clubs apply when Catalan visit them I should imagine that you are referring to the recent game at the HJ were Warrington got good numbers in by offering entrance for £5, nothing wrong with that at all and it could entice some back willing to pay the full fare. Do you reckon the club could extend that to two heavily discounted games should Toulouse gain SL status, or would it make season ticket holders think twice about paying up front?

What's that then? The aggregate that builders use in foundations or the annual road worthy vehicle test certificate?

Ripon?

Anyway @Worzelwe are miles apart on our interpretations, but enjoyed the debate.

I think we all have our own mindset on this matter, mine is that this system apart for the 'sports elite comp' will result in very damaging consequences, and that doesn't just mean the clubs below SL but also their RL communities, if this system does as I fear it will do it will lead to apathy and eventual club closures it could cause more repercussions for the sport.

That has cleared that up then, the we's are the IMG followers, and those less enthusiastic are well ........... you tell me?

Unless you have a coup, and that one as in an individual becomes many which when observing it at close quarters was what it seemed to be, anyway you stick with your interpretation and I will believe in what I observed. End off.

It will not be in the interest of IMG to spread domestic RL, for one they will look at the history of the many start up professional clubs in the last 40/45 years and realise that albeit the sport is appreciated for what it is in parts of Northern England the enthusiasm wanes somewhat when that northern corridor is breached. Also IMG are a business, and if they do last the 12 years of their agreement with the RFL, apart from the £450K per year I am led to believe they are charging for their input, they are also on a profit share basis - of an undisclosed %. It will not be in their interest to have clubs below SL eating into the top line of the RFL's turnover effectively reducing their cut. I am with you 100% that the intention of IMG is to close the door on the transition of movement between SL and clubs from the lower divisions, they can't do it immediately as it was objected to from their original intentions. Hats of to them though they have cobbled together a system so weighted in favour of the majority of the incumbent SL clubs that they will get their 'Closed Shop' in the not to distant future. What I don't understand is that the RFL should be acting on behalf of all their member clubs but they are seemingly putting all their eggs into the IMG basket, indeed to such an extent that one Club Chairman told me that Ralph Rimmer CEO at the time of the vote was actively campaigning with the lower division clubs suggesting to them that voting in the IMG proposal was the right way to go. I have said it before, I see this system will be a reflection of the 'licensing years' before long, Championship clubs will feel the brunt of it, interest amongst the fans will eventually repeat itself to be the same as what happened in those 6 years '09 to '14 when they turned their backs, the authorities then saw sense and reintroduced a competitive system of rewarding and penalising clubs through P&R, interest and crowds picked up even in SL, I dread to think what would be the state of RL in country had that not been done.

Well you see that is where a lot differ, who is the 'we' by the way?

Yes you can play 'The buck stops here' card anyway you like, tell that to thousands of parents who have done everything humanly possible to teach and bring up their offspring in a correct and proper manner, but it doesn't always work does it?

Where's that then?

Get a few quid on it Sam,you will get pretty good odds I am sure. The cup is coming back to West of the Pennines.

It will with those halfbacks and the coach, Lomax past it now this version this season not as good as previous and Dodd not up to the standard you expect from a Saints No 7, Saints attack has complemented their defence for years the attack is very wanting and that has to be put down to the coach.

Wrong thread.

Careful Warrington had won the league last year by that time!

Two very flat attacks, making it easy for the defences to shut the opposition down, if any of the coaches has the balls to tell his team to drop back and have a second phase they will go on to win this.

To me it's one of the mysteries how Mr Lam continues with the selection of Hughes, he is still there when we have a full compliment, Holmes does a far better job than Hughes.

Yeah Norfolk is still hardened RL country, So tell me, in your life time of being involved in this game where has the expansion programme proved successful away from the confines of the M62 corridor save for London 40 few years ago, brush it up any way you want to John and call me parochial but at the bottom of it you know I am not to far off the truth, Rugby League does not travel well in this country, even your good self could only go down the road for your RL fix from your spiritual home of Swinton, to your new love.

Well done the Giants, emphatic win.

The main problem with Leigh is the lack of pace, very good with ball in hand and quite obviously well coached in that respect, we make the space but struggle finishing it off, oh for a French and Field Mr Lam brought them to this country to early in my opinion.