Chrispmartha

I don't think it should be on IMG to publish data, some of which could be sensitive, IMG has said the clubs are entitled to release it if they so wish.

It’s also kind of irrelevant, the clubs knew exactly what they were voting for at the time they voted.

The only thing I remember was that it was stated Grade B clubs could still drop out of SL and only Grade A were exempt. which is still the case.

Is that actually what they said, genuine question because I don't remember seeing it laid out that way.

And they were generally the ones who were saying the games gone, even before anything to do with IMG.

In a one off game, yes, the IMG system is about longer term thinking.

Its not IMGs job to work with individual clubs they are to there to hold clubs hands.

Don't think Ive been shouting loud, just discussing the system. My club has got issues, we've been woeful on the field for a few years considering how well we do in the other aspects of running a rugby club.

a few of the people bemoaning the new system are also those that say the games rubbish as it is, so the question is, what would they propose?

Yes that’s exactly what I’m saying. The majority won’t know this forum exists or that the BBC has a comments section let alone be commenting on them.

Id have no issues with leeds losing points for failing to increase crowds

Leeds are the best supported club in British RL, with the best commercial department, maybe they should be nicking or emulating their staff yes.

You’re kind of proving my point, those with grievances will be in the minority.

It’s not my job to know, I’m not an employee or an owner of a RL club. But IMO clubs need to look at all aspects of the organisation and see how they can improve, marketing, community engagement, commercial and yes on the pitch.

That’s because those with grievences shout the loudest.

If they can’t figure out how to do it they might get overtaken by a club that does. We then might end up with more teams that know how to do it in the top tier of the sport, meaning better run clubs.

Not sure a few fans sat outside post office road with a few banners will have much impact to be honest.

Yet they’ve not all been doing it have they.

By, improving the things that improve their grades, which includes performance on the field.

Toulouse, Leigh, even Wakefield in a few years, even further down the line clubs like York.

Maybe they won’t in the coming years, and if they do tread water then there will be teams who aren’t overtaking them.

Salford and Huddersfield are bith less than 1.5 points off A status, they could make that up within your decade timeline

Exactly!

How do clubs recruit with P&R?

I’m not sure what you want me to say. The clubs have voted this in it’s happening, your club can still get into SL, performance on the field will help that. If the new grading system has put you off supporting your club Im not saying sure what any answers on here will help with that.