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A season ticket isn’t really a season ticket currently though… it is in effect a League Match Ticket Book (LMTB as old Man United fans will remember). You could include it with some clever pricing/marketing to make it feel like you are getting ‘free’ entry to all cup games as a bonus. Ideally though you need cross club agreement and losing league loop fixtures. Maybe you pay for two CC games and you could use these home or away? Anyone who uses at least one of those tickets gets half-price for Semi-Final - use both and you get a free ticket? Loads of ways you could try new ideas.

God the RFL get it in the neck with everything. They’ve tried to be the neutral ref here and appease both clubs (who couldn’t agree between them), while also trying to incentivise crowd numbers. You’re criticising them for setting a reduced price, others will criticise them for not insisting on the cheapest. They really can’t win here.

That’s all completely true but you can’t lay it all at the RFL’s doors. Just look at this Plough Lane debacle. Club goes part time to save cash but moves to a big new stadium - with massively increased rental costs now across three grounds. And this was signed off by the owners! It is truly staggering incompetence and appalling management at club level. Think there is a very real danger of Broncos going under by/before the end of the season. Can’t see how they can recover from this now.

That old chestnut. You’ve still got to get people through the door even with free tickets - so fair play to KR for a great crowd.

Never seen a professional rugby league club give the team news with the emphasis on first names before #pubteam

The only real way for CC to keep stay relevant and grow is as part of a true coming together of RFL and SL as part of the realignment. • Clubs need to lose SL as many loop fixtures as we can a so clubs aren’t playing the same sides 4/5 or more times a season in the cup. • SL come in one round earlier. I don’t think you need to fix the draw. This is the best round for David v Goliath stories, even if many will be big scores. • Season tickets need to include CC matches. Not easy to do practically but there must be a way in terms of how ticket revenue is shared from the RFL. SL need to realise or be convinced that the cup, in the early rounds especially, is not a burden on them but great for the health of the game and for new grounds for their supporters to visit etc

This point keeps getting brought up but i just don’t get it. When Salford are shown live on TV now for 9/10 games there is a ruddy great empty stand running along the pitch facing the cameras, and a ruddy great empty stand behind the sticks to the left. It looks terrible and does not show the sport as a great spectacle. I’ve been to both the AJ Bell and Moor Lane and both have flaws (as well as positives). But in terms of looking good for broadcasting then Moor Lane is certainly not making things any worse.

Here’s a nerdy/stupid one of how a reverse SL (eg southern) would look. How many could pinpoint all these on a map? No real Leeds equivalent so thats a bit made-up (bringing Maxwell’s football dream of the Royals finally to life!) but all the rest are within 5k of population of related teams Reading & Oxford Rhinos Luton FC Luton KR Southend Wolves Peterborough Giants Basingstoke Red Devils Bedford Warriors Woking Saints Gillingham Trinity Newbury Tigers

We are a relatively small sport played professionally at the top level in a very small part of England, with most people in the country having no idea where the clubs are from. The sooner everyone realises this the better and we can move on and try and do something about it (it that’s what the sport wants).

As expected we can gone from hyperbole of Channel 4 being the saviour of RL and we should ditch Sky from the first week figures… to the fact we should only show half the league as no one in the right mind will watch the likes of Wire v Trinity. Truth as ever will be somewhere in the middle and be clearer at the end of the season.

Thanks Wholly. Yes that’s pretty much what I was referring to but don’t bode either Cas or Wakey any bad will. No one could have predicted who would be the winners and losers 20 years later.

Yeah the whole thing has always a been a mess in terms of minimum standards and dispensations. I think it winds me and many other Salford fans up because if we hadn’t done the right thing years ago (eg build a shiny new stadium) when others didn’t then we wouldn’t be in the position we currently are. I guess though that even if you stick by rules they are always arbitrary. York’s lovely new ground wouldn’t have met the then 10k minimum for example. For me, if you keep with promotion and relegation with just on the pitch results, and not licensing, then you can’t really stipulate too many stadium requirements.

No one is… and that’s where the problem lies, not with Salford or any other individual club. Salford are cutting their cloth accordingly. It is not their decision to make as to whether this move means they should or shouldn’t be in SL with a stadium if that capacity.

As it stands we can’t pay the rent at our current home. So basically, even if it is a disaster, at the minute we have little choice so it’s either that or go out of business. We have to make the best of it.

Rather than comment on the game itself and another Leeds loss we should, of course, focus on and criticise Salford’s attendance. That’s the logic of Sir Kev on this forum.

Good to see Salford mentioned and Koukash’s Law being enacted in this unrelated thread https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Ok my OCD can’t stand it any longer… Loving the fact they have a new stadium but why isn’t the stand in symmetry? There’s two blocks to the right of the tunnel and just one to the left - which just looks odd as well as decreasing capacity. Anyone know why the design is like this?

Go on then I’ll bite… Salford are not opting to move out - we cannot pay the agreed rent. And We have heard you bang on about Moor Lane being a rented stadium many times. We are where we are. What would you do now if you were the Salford chairman?

Councils do very much support sports teams - often historically propping up clubs/stadiums, when they wouldn’t for other industries, as they are seen as a source of civic pride. Fact is councils have had an average 40% reduction in government settlement in the last decade which is billions of pounds reduction. They no longer have funds, unlike say the French regional gives, for any direct financial input.

Not really. Jägers or Sambucas? Blondes or brunettes? are two of the questions. This ‘professional’ club is beyond help

Thanks Ray. I did wonder if that might be the case - and that really is rubbish all round.

We can go round and round on this… and you may have a point about moving crowds to a lower capacity stadium, and the lack of growth opportunities etc, but the truth is this - we may no choice. If we don’t have the crowds to pay the rent then we’re out and need to look elsewhere (or were out of existence) I think most Salford fans are trying to look on the bright side of an imperfect position. If we get better crowds this year then there is some leverage along with petitions etc to try and stay. If it is a move to Moor Lane then we know it is not big enough and not quite SL standard (8.5k like at York would be perfect) so hoping to look to expand if possible.

Yeah it quite cleverly says that that OuRLeague itself is free but doesn’t actually say that the games themselves are free.

Yes I probably am more sensitive to it - however Salford’s crowds have always been rubbish compared to the ‘big’ clubs so it’s really nothing new. One or two criticising Salford for a 4K crowd, and doing a false comparison with Sale’s crowds, is old news. And actually I don’t want to, and shouldn’t have, stuck the boot in on Wakefield either. We need to look at individual club circumstances to see what warrants a good crowd eg Cas did a brilliant job of getting 10k for their opener.

Is that you’re only take on that? My point was that because Salford have a new stadium - and therefore to some on here they should automatically be a huge success - they get way more attention on attendances than other clubs.