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  1. 11 hours ago, The Future is League said:

    Bring them in for the Challenge cup final and Grand Final and they would be sell outs. Bring them in for internationals against Australia and New Zealand and they would sell out. The Hearns are very good at marketing one off events

    Yeah they’ve had a go at owning Leyton Orient and running netball which hasn’t been a big success. I think brining them in to market the Challenge Cup, GF and high profile internationals would be a good idea

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  2. 16 hours ago, RobertAM said:

    Attended last nights NARL match Washington Cavalry vs Toronto Wolfpack at Lamport. Was well supported with the east side stand (cap.4600) only open due to covid protocols and attendance restricted to 2000. Very enthusiastic crowd out to support their hometown Wolfpack. Sat next to folks up from DC watching their son play for Ryan Burroughs team. Blake Wallace on the sidelines coaching with Burroughs busy on the field. Simon Gelder the kit man was enjoying himself so lotsa WP alumni in evidence. Sure hope NARL makes a go of it, I for one will be going all in on season tickets and kit and I am confident I wont be alone if this turnout is anything to go by.

    Good to hear rl in Toronto isn’t dead. Hopefully the national team will still play games there and there will be more Toronto games in the future. Canada should definitely be looked at as a area for expansion by the IRL, ERL or maybe the RFL/SL would ever think about going back

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  3. 2 hours ago, Saint Toppy said:

    Why should any club play under a different set of rules in the competition to everyone else ?

    If they're good enough on the field they'll stay up, if not they'll get relegated. If you want a P&R system then that's just how it is. If you want protection from relegation then just scrap P&R altogether and bring back licencing.

    The game is already seen to be badly run by a bunch of clueless clowns. Letting teams compete under their own separate rules would just be the final straw of stupidity !

    Look what happens when you start beggering about with P&R. Widnes got dumped from SL by finishing 11th just so they could gift Catalans a SL place, and its a relegation they never really recovered from. And for what, to have a French team that's just packed out with Brits & Antipodeans and brings through a tiny number of local juniors compared to the numbers that used to come through the Widnes Academy.

    I think you need 2 strong divisions for P and R to be successful and sustainable and we don’t have a strong second division. Don’t get me wrong I’d rather have P&R than licensing but if you want to grow the game you need to invest money and time into new markets. 


  4. 1 hour ago, JM2010 said:

    Sheffield should be targeted as an area for development. The CC semi final double header could be taken there, maybe an on the road game, some internationals etc.

    I'd also like to see the RFL work alongside clubs like Sheffield, Newcastle, Coventry, London and the Welsh clubs in developing the community game as these are big markets for new players and already have established professional clubs to use as a focal point for developing RL.

    Absolutely. I never understood having the Challenge Cup semi final at Bolton (aside from it being cheap to hire). Magic Weekend at Newcastle, CC semis at Sheffield, maybe one England game a year in Coventry/ Midlands then obviously cup final at wembley. Maybe even play more high profile internationals in Wales

  5. 2 hours ago, Mumby Magic said:

    Kind of get that but it's same for all. 

    Tbf I think any team that is promoted should be exempt. We’ve just seen clubs yo-yo the past few years. I always thought the qualifiers were brilliant and better suited RL than the current one up one down.

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  6. 1 hour ago, Mumby Magic said:

    As I've said before RL is very reactive and rarely proactive. Like when there was no after plan(if a plan at all) with Toronto. A third team should be considered in the system in the next 2 years and with a RLWC on the horizon even more so.

    The problem with managing and planning expansion is its very difficult to do if you have promotion and relegation. It can be done as previously Catalans we’re exempt from relegation (for 3 years I think?). It would be great if Toulouse come up but pointless if they just go back down

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  7. 6 minutes ago, moorside roughyed said:

    Parents are normally the worst. For parents to yell out for kids from their team to knock out the kids from the opposite side is disgusting. I must be a Saint, whenever I watch kids or amateur I even applaud the opposition if they've made a good play. 

    Makes you worry what the parent is like at home. I can kind of understand people getting worked up at open age but to act like some people do at junior games, I just don’t understand it.

  8. 25 minutes ago, Scubby said:

    If Toulouse get into SL, Magic should be 2 separate Saturdays in the Year. 1x Newcastle and 1x France.

    For the SL clubs going to France, 2 of them can play Toulouse and Catalans the following week (and maybe the other 2 the week before) so fans can make it a holiday. Toulouse v Catalans headlines the French Magic and it can be held at a large 40-50k venue.

    It is obvious that Saturday always out performs Sunday in a 2-day magic weekend which shows there isn't a glut of neutrals or fans staying the whole weekend. Newcastle could then go all out to try and get 45k+ for that Saturday.

    Mix the teams around so they can experience both over the years.

    How do you get more neutrals to stay in the ground? We need to make SL more high profile and get people who don’t necessarily watch RL to come because it’s an event. The RU World Cup played 3 games in Newcastle and got 50k+ for each game. 

    I think having 2 venues could be a good idea. Maybe have it on a bank holiday with Newcastle on Saturday and France for example on the Sunday 

  9. On 02/09/2021 at 20:45, Bondi Cannon said:

    I refereed for 20 seasons in the UK and NZ to a high level. In my final season I realised I was only enjoying about one game in three and the reason was the accompanying ######. The players were fine - there’s only ten teams in the top division in Auckland so you knew all of them and could talk to them. In my case, it was specifically the whinging from losing coaches that was winding me up and then the occasional spectator. I was finding it harder and harder not to respond. Now I play over 40s soccer with my mates and it’s entirely stress free. Except ironically that we never get a ref and so the only dramas are with the decisions of player-refs (we had a game finish early this year when the opposition captain was sent off and literally took his ball - the only one - home with him). 

    I’ve reffed for almost 3 years now. Similar to you I find most players to be fine, 95% of abuse is from coaches the rest from spectators. I’m based in Leeds and find teams from Castleford tend to give you the worst abuse. I think everyone who refs could write a book about their experiences. I recently did an u11 game where a parent was shouting for his kid to knock the other team out

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  10. The clubs voting on a structure (that non will unanimously agree on) is ludicrous. Should be an independent commission to lay a road map out for what SL will look like in the next 10-20 years. 

    What’s the long term aim for attendance, sponsorship money, TV rating, participation? No one in the sport has a plan. In 10 years time the same thing will be happening. Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas. The sport is being run by greedy individuals and it’s boring

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  11. 22 minutes ago, LongbridgeH said:

    The player pool is an argument against it. You’d like to think though that 10 teams at the top tier would be required to be top academies. It would take a couple of years to rebalance 

    I think player availability and welfare is forgotten here, the intense of the game has racked up (not necessarily for the better) and injuries are increasing. COVID has proven when teams are short of 5 or more players, the quality drops off considerably. Less fixtures can increase the available recovery time. 

    Also talking of the women’s game, if there’s a reduction in the number of home fixtures due to a SL reformatting. All clubs should be looking hosting their women’s team at their home ground with the same presentation of their male team. 

    My worry is with a 10 team SL, 9 home games will not satisfy the clubs and they’ll want loop fixtures again. 

    I don’t know how they’re going to decide who these clubs are when they restructure, surely you’d want the 10 best clubs in the system so a licensing system would be used like last year when they decided to promote Leigh.

    Perhaps two leagues of 10 could work and focus on stadia, academies, growth and expansion. It’s an unpopular opinion but we don’t need 3 clubs with a WF postcode. Of course keep traditional clubs who keep up to standards but help the likes of London, Newcastle and Coventry to grow the player pool and fan bases 

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  12. 6 hours ago, Henson Park Old Firm said:


    I quite like it. The 2008 and 17 kits with the cross look naff but I like this one, just a remake of 1995. The 2011 ‘paint cross’ was nice as well. Only England shirt I own is the 2013 one but I’m tempted to get this one

  13. 9 hours ago, TrueBull said:

    Few years ago now, but I'd heard the council, Bulls and BPA were broadly on the same page. Unfortunately the RFL are a stakeholder too and were either too greedy/incompetent (delete as required) so the council & BPA went their own way. Thanks RFL. Christ it's good being the RFL's favourites.....

    In the end Odsal as it is will hold them back. After the 2000s they should have looked at moving/ redeveloping and working with stakeholders/ council/ RFL/ ect but obviously financial troubles didn’t help

  14. 4 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

    Look reality is that Bulls dont have the cash to build what is required, namely a 12000 3g facility.  So making Odsal work for now is all we have. 

    The alternative is to play outside Bradford which is a slow lingering death.  

    As I’ve said before, the new leisure centre the council has built down the road should have been built at Odsal as part of a York style community stadium. The council, bulls and park Avenue should have worked together to make that happen

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  15. 17 minutes ago, Hela Wigmen said:

    Leeds till the end of the year now they have lost Eastmond? Or Warrington, with them releasing Austin immediately? 

    Leeds say they’re not looking for a short term replacement for Eastmond so if he did go there it’d be for more than a year. Leeds don’t have a marquee spot free do they?

  16. 1 hour ago, Cheshire Setter said:

    If found guilty he'd better be ready for the worst.   I don't for one minute think he's some sort of right-wing nut job, but we've got no choice but to make an example.   Hopefully he's been in touch with Savelio who will report back that he's accepted his apology.

    It might have just been a stupid throw away comment. Even so, it’s unacceptable and I think the RFL will have to make an example with him especially after this weekend with the social media blackout 

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