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  1. 3 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

    I'm no racist if that is what you are alluding to chap

    Reading/watching the recent insurgency of pride in being of Tongan, Samoan or Fijian in Aussie/NZ based players I would say I am bang on the money

    So yes. I posit that a decent SL based Australian/NZ born player of Pacific heritage would be on average more up for a game under a Pacific Islands moniker than the equivalent Aussie /Kiwi


    No I’m not saying your racist. Not at all. 

    What I’m suggesting is that you’re deciding what particularly nationalities want without any regard for what they might want themselves. The principles of Self-determination should place those you speak of at the centre of any decision.

  2. On 09/01/2021 at 23:18, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

    I'm glad we have an Exiles fixture 

    Talk in the Union papers today of a Pacific Island touring team

    I'm not asking for a touring side including NRL players but how would a SL Pacific Island Exiles look like? I'm sure the players would have plenty of passion if the name is Pacific Islanders

    Anyone fancy posting a potential SL based team? 

    On another note.... Once we are back to normal what price a Tongan 3 test tour over here? ( maybe a France fixture chucked in). I'm quite confident it would sell well and would be more than competitive enough

    I love how you’ve just decided that those from pacific nations “would have plenty of passion if the name is Pacific Islanders.”

    Have they said this? Is there any evidence supporting this? I’m sure you mean well, and such a game would perhaps work, but the assumptions you’ve made sound very similar to the assumptions made throughout history...

  3. I wonder if you ask fans the question of how many local players they want in the team what the answer would be?

    More onus should be placed on clubs to develop their own framework for success, and local players should be one of those indicators. If Guasch had 100% foreign players I’m sure many fans would stop watching. 100% local and you will lose fans too that want to see world class talent. Ask the fans what the balance should be! They’re the ones buying memberships and merch. 

  4. 12 hours ago, DoubleD said:

    In his younger years yes, not these days. He even played rake a few games this year. He’s not a bad player and he’s a fierce competitor but he’s just a bit of Jack of all trades half. He’s not consistently good enough to nail down a regular place in NRL anymore

    That’s purely down to the coach not wanting him and hoping he’d break contract early if he was miserable. 

    He took the dogs to the finals and signed with the tigers for big money. Cleary left and Maguire didn’t want him. 

    If you play him at 6, he’ll run all day. 

  5. On 03/12/2020 at 20:48, Harry Stottle said:

    Where was the stability in the last licensing period Dealer, if you mean everything stayed the same that the same clubs prior to licensing stayed at the top and won tge gongs and those who warmed up the nether regions of the division continued to do so, with the obvious exception of the Bradford Bulls who twice in 2012 and 2014 in the licensing period went into administration, they were fine before licensing.

    The top clubs still scoured Australia and the Pacific region for players to remain competitive with each other, and half of the division with 4 or 5 months still left of the season had nothing competitive to play for, that ain't sport Dealer.

    Please advise me of the turnover of club owners that has happened to often since licensing was abolished that should make interesting reading, and there has been two yoyo clubs since 2016 being Leigh and HKR, under the present format Leigh would not have been relegated in '17 they did not finish bottom even though they had an horrendous injury situation utilising 37 player's, a situation if it happens to the top clubs being deprived of player's we hear all to often "what do you expect with so many players missing" but it was Leigh so it didn't matter.

    The other problem we have with the Promoted club, is it is until the very last game of their season that they know they have won promotion, by that time most player's are sorted and allocated at which club they will performing at the following year, we have such a shortage of available talent team and squad strengthening is a problem, want evidence look at Toronto this past season a 0 - 6 return says that squad wasn't good enough and they could very well have been yoyo #3.

    So in my opinion do something re player recriutment - what that could be I don't know - and keep 3 divisions with something competitive to play for at both ends of each division the exception being  the bottom of League 1, or return to licensing and go through the very same motions as last time, and in the process watch the Championship go #### (mammaries) up.

    In typical british fashion you don’t allow a period of stability to materialise because your management get bored and have to be “innovative”. As soon as Richard Lewis left the RFL appointed a numpty as CEO and reverted back to P&R and super 8s.

    You’ll never know what could be, because you don’t let an idea reach a point of maturity. 

    Regarding Remi, I hope that Toulouse pick him up. He’ll be great to steady the ship. 

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  6. 12 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

    So that lends into my ever long argument, no relegation and extending the play offs further down the tail in a closed shop situation is in effect rewarding mediocrity and even failure.

    I’d take stability of the clubs and an ability to properly plan over the excitement of relegation. If you can create a model of sustainability AND jeopardy through P&R I’m all for it. But we see the yo-yo of promoted teams and turnover of club owners too often. 

  7. 9 hours ago, barnyia said:

    Chan is a kiwi Gordon. And out of the twenty how many have now left, albert, maria, simon, casty, belmas, baitieri and morgue in negotiations. 

    Albert gave an interview last week and mc namara didn't get a glowing report from him, a bit of bad grapes, now casty has given an interview and he just never had any reply from mc namara since march when he said he was keeen to go around again, 

    He didnt have an answer so didnt get to say goodbye to all the players in the changing rooms as moa and mead did. 

    He's still given a good interview and came across as always as a gentleman. 

    Where is this interview?

  8. 2 minutes ago, jacobus said:

    Isn't the issue partially about the way Dragons 1st 13 play nowadays under McNamara?

    A Farges, Escare, Eloi wouldn't be able to play the way they play best in the current style. 

    They certainly play a bruising style, despite having maloney, folau and tomkins in the backline. Maloney has really struggled with the style. They don’t play with any time for the outside backs IMO. 

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  9. 8 minutes ago, PEANUT HEAD said:

    How do think most of the SL clubs survive, even the successful ones run at a loss.

    And that’s my point. The foundations are not solid to begin with. You’ve also got more complicated questions like what is the role of SL clubs in developing talent? What is the RFL’s role? Should every SL team have an academy? 

  10. 35 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:

    This is how you have financial difficulties https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15042484.revealed-the-true-scale-of-debts-that-sent-bradford-bulls-into-administration/  (sorry Bulls fans)

    You can't pay your bills and can't settle with those you owe - HMRC £400K - owing HMRC is terrible for the sport and all the players contracts ripped up, not settled.

    Now what financial problems will hinder Leighs submission?

    They did deals with contracted players to settle, they paid HMRC first, they paid bob the kit washer, they paid the coach company etc etc - they owed nobody owt and did not lose money that year or the year before or the years after. That is not financially weak in this sport.


    And if DB walked away? I know there’s plenty of other clubs reliant on a single owner, but it’s such a concern. Clubs should be working towards sustainability, and if that means spending less on players then that’s what it means. 

  11. Problem is, you have a select group saying “we need a strategic plan” and “a vision.”

    Then you get someone of the calibre of Richard Lewis who makes plenty of tough calls and then gets poached by Tennis. You replace him and revert all his changes. 

    Now the truth is the calibre of leaders at the RFL and SL clubs is very low. 

    What they need to do (like any major business) is bring in consultants to create a roadmap. Some won’t like the outcome, but if it’s a roadmap to revenue, sustainability, and a larger fanbase, then that’s just the way it is. Plus, investors are more likely to come on board with a strategic plan devised by Bain or BCG. 

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