Barley Mow
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2 minutes ago, Dunbar said:
Yes, I did look at the rules and it seems that this would have been the reason.
It's still disappointing that they didn't just engage with you though.
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9 minutes ago, Gomersall said:
This was originally listed as a two game series (over two days).
Am I right that they play each other again today?
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8 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:
That’s just ridiculous
It real does seem it doesn't it.
The only justification I can think of is that it may be a house rule that comments must relate to the subject of the article - if the subject of the article is the 2nd England v Tonga test, then technically it is off topic.
Nonetheless it seems over the top.
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8 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:
At a guess, the RLEF notified the BBC and the NRL/IRL did not?
I think it'll have to have been somebody directly related to the South African governing body who notified them.
ERLF would surely have told them about Greece v Ukraine, Czechia v Netherlands and Malta v Philippines as well.
Nonetheless, there should be a better way for the BBC to find out the fixtures - when NRL is on, they always show the club fixtures.
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7 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:
I've just finished watching the game. Tonga way off today, certainly wasn't the most thrilling game but will still be the most exciting game of rugby played in Europe today!
Greece v Ukraine and Czechs v Netherlands rugby league matches didn't take your fancy then?
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1 minute ago, Chrispmartha said:
What would be your suggestion?
I think the only way would be to give indicative grades before the playoffs, I suspect this may happen but we need to remember this is reliant on the clubs giving that information to IMG/RL commercial
I don't think there is a solution to this issue.
They may end up with something along the lines you suggest (although if that had been thought of I think it would have been mentioned in the interview as it is directly relevant) - even that would be like looking at the league table with 5 weeks of the season to go and judging the odds of going up or down. Clubs still might not have any certainty until the final grades are in after the grand final.
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1 minute ago, Chrispmartha said:
As I say once the system kicks in I don’t think there will be as much uncertainty.
Only because movement between SL and Champ is likely to end (or be significantly reduced) - as you can imagine, I don't really see that as a positive either.
1 minute ago, Chrispmartha said:The clubs have been given indicative grades a year in advance they will have an idea where they need to improve I
That was essentially the answer in the interview - it didn't reflect the fact that the clubs involved won't know what improvements their opponents will have made to their grade.
Although I am not in favour of this system, I am trying to remain objective, give it a chance and engage with it constructively. I had hoped there would be something in the interview that I could take away as a positive, a question came up that had been discussed on here and I hoped there was a positive answer to - unfortunately not.
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4 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:
Any system that has P&R will create uncertainty for some clubs it’s unavoidable.
Yes. But a new system that prolongs that uncertainty (even slightly) has a harder task in convincing people it is an overall benefit, than one that reduced the length of the uncertainty.
Reduced uncertainty was afterall supposed to be a benefit of to this system.
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1 minute ago, Chrispmartha said:
Yes they will have less time but not much less time, and I fully expect from 2025 onwards there won’t be a lot of changes in the tables, especially if it goes to 14 teams.
This is why from 2025 my preference would be to lock those teams in for 3 years.
Yes, I realise that is your preference.
I'm still not convinced by the system as a whole and was glad when this question was asked because I hoped he would have an answer that would be an improvement on the current situation - that might've started to win me round. Unfortunately he had no answer.
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9 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:
The clubs can ultimately only control what they can control if other clubs do better then they will deserve their place within the system that has been approved over the club that hasnt done enough
The issue he was trying to address though was whether promoted clubs would have longer to prepare a squad for SL than under on-field P&R.
I hoped he would have a solution, but the answer seems to be that they're likely to have less time.
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9 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said:
Because if you can make an A Grade then you're guaranteed a SL spot and don't need to worry about relegation?
The clubs around the 12th/13th place are unlikely to be A grade though (at least in the first few years).
They will be B's - they will know how they're doing compared to last year, but can't know if they are promoted until later than at present because they won't know if other clubs have improved their grade.
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4 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
Just listened to Tony Sutton he says along the lines of "clubs can see how they are going on their own score but they can't see how anybody else is scoring, so they know where they have to be to be a SL club and that is better for the clubs so they can plan with a little more certainty" what a load of bolux how is that more visible than a league ladder that everyone can see including us fans, if you can't see what the opposition is doing?
I picked up on that as well. He didn't seem to accept that clubs wouldn't find out whether they are in SL til later than at present (because they won't know other clubs' positions until the grades are released post-season).
I was disappointed Tanya Arnold didn't press him on it.
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1 minute ago, 17 stone giant said:
Couldn't watch it as wasn't at home and can't get red button on Sky Go (well, I couldn't find it anyway).
I should be home next week, but if not I really hope the final is on one of the main channels.
I fancied the Kangaroos to win comfortably in Melbourne, but I'm hoping that it will be a closer game next week with the Kiwis being at home.
If you want to watch it back at some point, there will be a free full match replay on the NRL's youtube channel some time after the middle of the coming week.
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45 minutes ago, Dunbar said:
Just to vent some frustration again. The South Africa vs. Italy International match is listed on the BBC fixtures but this isn't. Bizzare.
Particularly bizarre considering the South Africa v Italy match was played in Australia as well.
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3 minutes ago, corvusxiii said:
No updates on BBC so keep it up, unless Oz run away with it then I'm not too fussed.
Play by play updates here: https://www.nrl.com/draw/pacific-championships/2023/round-3/australia-v-new-zealand/
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5 minutes ago, gingerjon said:
Really must dig out the thread where the majority opinion was that women shouldn't play rugby league.
If you can find it, please do - I'd be interested to know people's reasoning for thinking women shouldn't play.
I can understand people not being interested in every version of the game, but can't think why anyone would think any group 'shouldn't' be playing.
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3 minutes ago, Stainesrover said:
Great post, totally agree.
I also think with the number of countries competing in the next WC being fewer, that the Nations that miss out play a 'developing nations' type cup, but each country can only have 4 players MAX of heritage in their squad and this should be very strict. No rule bending.
Italy,Greece,Serbia,Wales, Ireland,Scotland,Germany,Malta (EU)
USA,Jamaica,Canada,Brazil (AM)
Cook Islands and Lebanon.
Great in theory but would never happen.
Such a competition might be a good idea under the circumstances (10 team world cup), but Lebanon are one of the eight who have already qualified for the world cup. Cook Islands also look likely to qualify.
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8 minutes ago, Derwent said:
Yes they are, have a read of the Finance section. Clubs are allowed to add back the costs of Academies and youth development to increase their assessed profit figures.
Isn't that to avoid clubs being penalised for having an academy (and spending money on it)?
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23 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said:
It’s a funny world when Johnstone is our most durable winger.
Oh no - you've gone and jinxed him now!
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17 minutes ago, crashmon said:
OK lets talk a little larger scale
London has more than TWICE the population of Lancs and Yorks combined.
The population in Lancs, Yorks and Gtr Manchester is about 5 Million
So out of a "catchment area" of 55M the entirity of RL apart from a few small clubs (London, cornwall, Midlands) is only 10% of the UK.
So to me it does not matter if your a "City" or "Town" as from a numbers perspective is what matters. Not how you are designated.Population of Yorkshire - over 5.2 million (https://wikishire.co.uk/wiki/Yorkshire)
Population of Lancashire - over 4.9 million (https://wikishire.co.uk/wiki/Lancashire)
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7 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said:
FFS!
Don't worry, the one on the left will have black shorts, the one on the right will have white shorts - it'll be fine!
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7 minutes ago, POR said:
Apparently these IMG scores are indicative and we get our proper/final score after next years SL grand final
Yes. They are updated after every season.
The ones released this week are what clubs would get if the system was being introduced now. Next year's scores will actually be used to decide who is in Super League for 2025.
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14 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:
I suppose somebody had to post it , at least now you've done it and given the ' stupid '
answer , nobody else will and we can see everybody else providing a realistic alternative answer ?
So in that vein , apart from clubs deciding to commit hari kari by merging , how can any club improve its catchment score ? , genuine answers only please
Merging Councils can work just as well as merging clubs.
When IMG first became involved with RFL, three clubs (Barrow, Whitehaven and Workington) would all have got the lowest score for catchment.
Changes to their Councils in April this year have actually benefitted the catchment score for all three clubs.
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3 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:
I suppose somebody had to post it , at least now you've done it and given the ' stupid '
answer , nobody else will and we can see everybody else providing a realistic alternative answer ?
So in that vein , apart from clubs deciding to commit hari kari by merging , how can any club improve its catchment score ? , genuine answers only please
Go into the house building industry and increase the housing stock (and population) in their local area!?!
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Super League Rebrand
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Although the NRL is itself international, having teams from two countries (and a push ongoing to introduce a third).