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Cumbrian Mackem

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  1. 21 minutes ago, Eddie said:

    65k is massive, is Old Trafford even going to sell out for this year’s final? And why would they have it in Paris if all the fans are 500 miles away.  Around 40k would be ideal I think, but in absence of somewhere suitable a sold out Toulouse or Montpellier (both c.33k) would be better than 40k rattling around in the Velodrome.  

    I’d bite your hand off for 40k in Marseille!!!

  2. Just now, Futtocks said:

    Yes, my mistake. He's a real live wire, if a little too fond of the no-look pass. Plenty more to come from him.

    Definitely more to come from him and I’m sure the Samoan coach will be sounding him out.

    id also be having a word with Joseph suaalii, Tommy Talau, Stephen Crichton and Shawn blore.

  3. 7 minutes ago, Scubby said:

    Coupe de monde final is something that can be easily sold to neutrals. If they were bold enough they could hold it in Paris and with UK fans alone would probably pick up 10k.

    The natural solution for the final IMO is the Stade Velodrome in Marseilles. It is an amazing stadium and 65k is a perfect size fitting of a final. It is close enough to the heartlands for coach trips and such and the south is a rugby area (both codes).

    I like your ambition but I’d look at holding the final at Montpelier HSC ground which has a capacity of 33k. It also has history of hosting RL games.

    Id also use PSG’s parc des princes for the opener.

  4. 11 minutes ago, The Frying Scotsman said:

    There was a phenomenal event in Avignon in the last World Cup held over here. 

    Great crowd, with people travelling from all over France, as well as abroad. City was buzzing.

    A few years later, Avignon RL still exists, they are still plodding along, on a VERY part time basis. But it has been neither reignited or kick-started. We have to stay in the real world here. The legacy effect is relatively negligible unless backed up with serious cash. 

    True. As always everything unfortunately comes down to money and more importantly if you have any.

    That being said France hosting an event like the World Cup is one way of sounding out such investment.

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  5. 7 minutes ago, The Frying Scotsman said:

    The last World Cup to be held (partly) in France had a game in Avignon. Probably the most successful French based match on the competition, I know because I was there. It doesn't even make your fantasy list of 16(!) locations.

    I am fully aware of how it works there thanks - I work in France myself, and am employed in sport. 

    Most minor sports (and Rugby League is very minor here - it gets zero nationwide media coverage) have a region that steps up and offers to host a championship, (European, under age, whatever) backs it, supports it, makes stadia/facilities available etc. Even with the new "super regions" we could safely say that the RLWC would be big enough to need more than 1 region, so it would probably be spread across 2 or 3 regions, who would collectively step in and become partners/sponsors. 

    Majority of games held in occitanie and Provence-alpes-cote d’Azur with a few games held elsewhere under the proviso that it leaves a legacy.

  6. 1 hour ago, ATLANTISMAN said:

    Sorry TFS you are completely wrong ROANNE has had a rugby league team for donkeys years and it used to be a very good one.

    There is a history of rugby league around the area, it would be an excellent choice for a smaller nations match with the help of temporary seating which I am sure the maire would help with.

    Having lived in France for 10 years between 1998 to 2008 and followed and been involved with French rugby league I do know my onions.

    I am certain that once the decision hopefully is made to award the RLWC 2025 to France they will have towns falling over backwards to get a match thats how it works there.

    The places I have listed are balanced and sensible places with a long rugby league history along with a few new areas to spread the game.

     

    Paul

    Couldn’t a 2025 RLWC game in Roanne or any other French city or town for that matter be used to reignite or kickstart interest of RL in these towns&cities?

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  7. 6 hours ago, The Frying Scotsman said:

    Some of his "suggestions" are utter fantasy stuff. Best ignored. 

    Roanne is a wee town in the Loire with about 30k inhabitants. It has zero Rugby League presence, and doesn't even have a stadium. He says it has a "Rugby" connection. I am completely unaware of this. There is no TGV link.

    He wants to use 16 stadia.... For a 12(?) team competition. The recent Euros used 11 venues FFS. 

    Completely detached from reality. Truly mental stuff. 

    The euros was ridiculously spread out amongst 11 countries.

  8. 44 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

    And that is strike 3.  I don't know whether you are this tediously pedantic in real life to not understand the concept of an expression and seem to have an awful tone for a discussion platform. 

    I'll answer than ignore you from now.  Because stadiums of full or near full capacity generate a better atmosphere in the ground thus making hospitality and game sponsors an easier sell. 

    2nd,  it creates the image on tv of being highly in demand or important to a casual viewer than a stadium at 50% capacity.  Thus being more likely to retain eyeballs and again attract further sponsors to French RL going forward.  

    All those are valid points but to play Devil’s advocate what would be better for RL in France if you had a 18k capacity stadium 100% full or a 60k capacity stadium 50% full?

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  9. 8 hours ago, Colin James said:

    Like this?

    Lions and Rangers Partnership

    Greater Manchester Player Development League

    Head of Youth Development

    England Talent Pathway

    Got women's teams running at under 16 and open age for the first time this season with plans to expand that next year.

    Things aren't going well on the pitch for the men's first team at Swinton but away from that the club is flying. So much progress being made.

     

    Exactly like this. Fantastic stuff.

    Looks like the Manchester rangers are still alive albeit off the pitch with their foundation work.

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  10. 1 hour ago, ShropshireBull said:

    Should be a discussion between Salford and Swinton about how the next ground move could save both with a ground share. 

    Swinton really need to bite the bullet and move to Manchester lock, stock and barrel.

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  11. 3 hours ago, Damien said:

    South Africa has always been very anti RL with all the usual barriers put in the sports way through RU being the establishment sport and having control and influence through government and media. It's telling that in the 3 big RU southern hemisphere nations that RL has essentially no presence in one.

    I suspect that RU saw what happened in Australia and NZ and did all they could to prevent the same in South Africa. If it had been given free reign I think it would be a RL nation like Australia or NZ. 

    Rugby union must have been the game of choice for the apartheid government.

  12. 3 hours ago, Keith989 said:

    It certainly could have been big in  South Africa, before coming on here I always wondered why it wasn't. There has never been a better time to try and grow the game there. The South African government is hell bent on trying to destroy union at the minute with their quota system. 

    Does the quota system apply to the local domestic teams?

  13. 10 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

    On this I would just say that the metro and MRA did not exist in the past. Having a team called Manchester not playing in the city of manchester is always going to be a non starter. Also, you note the constant bane of so many teams and that is constantly moving around. The MRA can be made into a home with a well funded RL side as the main tenant with no one else seemingly having a use for it. 

    If the RFL is going to base itself their it would make no sense not to try and kick start a new project for the game. 

    This to me would be stating the obvious and a no-brainer but unfortunately we are talking about the RFL here.

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