Les Tonks Sidestep
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16 minutes ago, PREPOSTEROUS said:
If I'm honest if that's how it plays out it sounds depressingly familiar. From what I have read I have no reason go doubt Lateral's intentions though.
The situations are slightly different in that Yorkcourt always had customers in place but 'pulled a fast one' the first time round whereas Axiom/Lateral didn't and haven't. There was a more watertight agreement in place for the Retail Park proposal so I assume they would have been good to their word. I haven't seen any documentation (S106s or the like) for the Industrial Park/Ground redevelopment
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1 hour ago, Taffy Tiger said:
Hi LTS , Axiom planning permission to be heard at same time (15th February) , both are now 'recommended for approval' and no problems expected in getting passed
There may be a delay in release of funds as I'm not sure as to the exact agreement , however this shouldn't be an issue as Cas are about to start Plan B to bring current WR stadium up to required minimum standard, in order to achieve maximum IMG stadium points at the end of 2024 season , and I wouldn't have thought any new work on the main stand would start before IMG grading has taken place . By then (hopefully) all will be good to go.
Axiom are applying for full planning for the enabling works only the application for the actual build is outline, simply because they haven't yet got customer/tenants so don't know what they're going to be building! In their blurb they don't expect to be in a position to apply for full until (at least, with a following wind) a year later, and even then it is expected to be piecemeal. The initial plan was to be in a position to open the park in 2026 and we're already getting on for the enabling work being 6 months behind schedule, so......
Given their experience with the Retail Park plan, and having (rumoured at least) to have spent getting on for £20m so far, I doubt they'll be keen on potentially throwing away another £10m.
And re-Plan B, I've heard rumours from a fairly reliable source that at least some of that (to reach the seat number threshold) won't be happening
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Finance is probably still the major hurdle. Unless Jepson is going to fund the rebuild they'll almost certainly have to wait at least until Axiom/Lateral know for definite that the Industrial Park is a goer, and that still looks to be some way off. Planning is obviously important but don't forget they've already twice had full planning for a brand new stadium.
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Considering we're at least 2-3 (probably more like 3-4 after some gaming of the system by clubs this year) points off the top 12 just exactly where do folk think these extra points are going to come from?
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Ex-Wales RU fly-half Barry John, aged 79
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Actor Carl Weathers aged 76 probably best known for playing Apollo Creed in the Rocky films
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3 hours ago, marklaspalmas said:
good calls. Jamie Rooney was another with a twelve year gap I think.
Way back when, John Willie Higson left Rovers, who were then a junior club, to play at Hunslet. He came back in 1921 when Fev joined the league. That'd be a similar time span to Massey, but different circumstances
Although he didn't actually make it onto the field, didn't Allan Agar sit on the subs bench after an injury to (I think) Tex Hudson* away at HKR around '83/4 after last playing in '68?
*from memory AA commented that TH was rushing to get off the coach for a last pre-match fag and twisted his ankle
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8 minutes ago, roversspud said:
Also Gadwin reportedly had a tight calf and didn't turn out for the second half.
He was definitely stretching it for a while when he came off
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There's also an interesting section on page 2050 (that's the actual document page number rather than the pdf page number which is 2055) regarding land to the north east of J32 of the M62....
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2 hours ago, jon said:
I was looking at this page
That ties in with my 1st screenshot although I couldn't see anything related to us on page 2150 of the link you posted (was about leisure corridors, canals mainly) so searched and found the stuff about the land use change.
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1 minute ago, marklaspalmas said:
It's a 2,300 page PDF. What am I looking for?
I've just edited my post with screenshot of all you need to see
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16 hours ago, POR said:
Intriguing improving the rugby league stadium with new stands where exactly and an all singing and dancing all weather pitch so is that goodbye to our world famous slope
I think it's a wish rather than something happening any time soon
45 minutes ago, jon said:That's that then....
PS it's page 2078
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The Local Plan has been adopted.
https://www.wakefield.gov.uk/localplan
As far as I can tell this is the only reference to 'our' land
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Former Wimbledon referee Alan Mills, aged 88
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49 minutes ago, The 4 of Us said:
That should in theory mean a better price could be extracted on a sale. It’s obviously a big site with good motorway access.
Perhaps the RFL need to consider re-investing any proceeds in another ground that Bradford could also lease from them.
I very much hope this is a process in which there is openess about who purchases and why. The last thing the game needs now is any suggestion that deals have been done for less than fair value with connected individuals.
What proceeds? They've already stated that they don't expect to get back what they 'paid' for it, and even if they did ca£1m ain't going to go far......
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1 hour ago, Michael Bates said:
My biggest question from today is markers not being square, 6 again or a penalty? As today it seemed to be both.
I believe it depends where the offence occurs with it being a penalty if the infringement is within the 40-metre area of the team in possession but 6 again elsewhere on the pitch.
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3 hours ago, marklaspalmas said:
Most of us wouldn't know because it's behind a paywall
I'll summarise it for you Mark:
"Wake will win the league at a canter and Fev might have a good year if their youngsters perform or they might not if they don't"
It's more cutting edge journalism from Callum Walker....
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4 minutes ago, Damien said:
Yeah wasn't sure about them, think it's like Keighley though and on a long lease from the council.
Looks like it from a quick Google that suggests the lease is open ended until 'such time as alternative stadium provision is made available'. Allerdale Council attempted to buy back the lease in 2020 around the time there was talk of building a new ground for the rugby and football clubs to share.
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1 hour ago, Damien said:
But I presume many of those RU league 1 actually own their own grounds. I don't think any of the RL league 1 clubs do, albeit Keighley have a long lease on theirs.
Workington?
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DJ Anne Nightingale, aged 83
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A good news update
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On 09/01/2024 at 17:51, jamescolin said:
To see Hardcastle back would be great. Superb recovery.
Good news for Sunday!
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5 hours ago, The Phantom Horseman said:
The stadium score is one of the most controversial points as it has absolutely nothing to do with the spectator experience.
Of the 3 points available, 1.5 are for ticking 9 boxes that are entirely concerned with broadcasters, media and corporate. If you only tick 8 of those 9 boxes (or fewer), you score zero points rather than 1.5
The remaining points are for how full the stadium is on average, and small scores for primacy of tenure, LED advertising screens and a big screen.
It really doesn't matter in the IMG scoring system whether the stadium is well-kept, attractive and comfortable or a crumbling wreck.
And the stupidity of it can be seen with the bodge Cas are current carrying out on WR that could very well gain them an extra point whilst making the spectator (at least for those who like to sit) experience worse than it is currently.
(I think you score 0.5 if you don't tick all 9 boxes?)
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James Kottak, drummer with The Scorpions, Kingdom Come, Montrose, Warrant, Wild Horses, the McAuley Schenker Group, and Buster Brown, aged 62.
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Castleford stadium.
in The General Rugby League Forum
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That would be my guess, although, to state the obvious, it could possibly be earlier if Axiom were lucky enough to woo a (some) big player(s) soon. I'm not even sure they've announced that they've got funding in place yet for the Retail Park? I think that they had the Canadian Teachers' pension fund lined up for the Retail Park build but whether they're still in the game?