Harry Stottle Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 14 hours ago, Tommygilf said: They refuse to compete and budget to finish 20th, not even 17th. This year they've spent £50 million, bringing in nobody of significant quality or value, whilst selling a player for c. £35 million and allowing two of their stars to be out of contract this season. You can absolutely spend more than that in the Premier League - they choose to not spend because they plan to go down. That isn't sustainable, fans won't put up with it long term. Unlike Leigh who outspent other SL club's, even when in the Championship, C'mon Tommy you know very well the system employed in RL does nothing to make the transition from the Championship to SL at all a smooth process in recruiting player's, by the time a club has secured promotion the shelves are almost bare and top dollar has to be paid for player's who are simply not worth it, I will go as far as suggest that Toulouse under the very same conditions will yo-yo this term, do you doubt that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, Harry Stottle said: Unlike Leigh who outspent other SL club's, even when in the Championship, C'mon Tommy you know very well the system employed in RL does nothing to make the transition from the Championship to SL at all a smooth process in recruiting player's, by the time a club has secured promotion the shelves are almost bare and top dollar has to be paid for player's who are simply not worth it, I will go as far as suggest that Toulouse under the very same conditions will yo-yo this term, do you doubt that? I totally agree the salary cap is a critical impediment to most clubs. Perhaps the Leigh comparison was unfair, as at least Leigh try to stay up and are just not very good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) Harry Stottle on the football thread!! Shurely shome mishtake, happy new year to all. Edited December 30, 2021 by HawkMan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, HawkMan said: Harry Stottle on the football thread!! Shurely shome mishtake, happy new year to all. Well spotted "Hawkeye", just shows how bored I am these days, actually in all honesty I have started watching MoD after all it is on quite often, doubt that I could sit through 90 mins of live action but a game condensed into up to 10 mins is just about acceptable, I have also learned that If I record it I can fast forward through all the waffle BBC's versions of Baz 'n Tez - whichever pundits are on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) The Norwich fans have basically bought into the philosophy that Delia and Co. are offering, that is Premier League every other year, alternating with exciting promotions from the championship. They get about 28,000 every game, and that'll probably remain so. The fans ain't daft, they know Norwich cannot spend really big, if it goes wrong that's the club down the swanee for years. As Gary Neville said, and I agree, the Premier league standard is very high these days, there's no real easy games, except poor old Norwich, and it's difficult to stay up, unless you have a genius manager like Bielsa or a crop of really good young talent. BTW, I wonder if Leigh fans were offered 5 promotions and 5 relegations in the next ten years , would they happily accept that. Edited December 30, 2021 by HawkMan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, HawkMan said: The Norwich fans have basically bought into the philosophy that Delia and Co. are offering, that is Premier League every other year, alternating with exciting promotions from the championship. They get about 28,000 every game, and that'll probably remain so. The fans ain't daft, they know Norwich cannot spend really big, if it goes wrong that's the club down the swanee for years. As Gary Neville said, and I agree, the Premier league standard is very high these days, there's no real easy games, except poor old Norwich, and it's difficult to stay up, unless you have a genius manager like Bielsa or a crop of really good young talent. BTW, I wonder if Leigh fans were offered 5 promotions and 5 relegations in the next ten years , would they happily accept that. Aye, I think Norwich fans are more likely to turn against their club if the Championship season goes wrong rather than if the Premier League one is disappointing. 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRL Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Sad story in some ways, especially getting stopped by the cops. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/dec/30/andre-onana-on-the-error-that-led-to-a-nine-month-ban-40mg-can-destroy-a-career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 hours ago, JonM said: Don't see it happening tbh. They *really* care about being better than Ipswich. When Norwich won 5-1 at Portman Road a couple of years ago, pretty much every road sign at the Norfolk border had a reference to it. The whole county supports the team. They love the fact that people like Delia & Stephen Fry own the club rather than dubious oligarchs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Anglian_derby Went to Norwich 40 years ago , very passionate fans as I recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Tommygilf said: I totally agree the salary cap is a critical impediment to most clubs. Perhaps the Leigh comparison was unfair, as at least Leigh try to stay up and are just not very good at it. If the shelf's is bare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 hours ago, HawkMan said: BTW, I wonder if Leigh fans were offered 5 promotions and 5 relegations in the next ten years , would they happily accept that. If the alternative was a closed shop with no P&R I would readily accept that, I went throughout the licensing years watching Leigh but I would not go again, I would also not bother going if Leigh was in SL and would as I expect be a team in the bottom half of the division with most likely having a good portion of the season playing games that have no consequence win or lose, I couldn't imagine anything more boring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 1 Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said: If the alternative was a closed shop with no P&R I would readily accept that, I went throughout the licensing years watching Leigh but I would not go again, I would also not bother going if Leigh was in SL and would as I expect be a team in the bottom half of the division with most likely having a good portion of the season playing games that have no consequence win or lose, I couldn't imagine anything more boring. Me to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 12 hours ago, GUBRATS said: Me to Why anyone would want to pay to go and watch what amounts to "games with no consequence" is beyond me, can you imagine feeling no elation or emotion for winning and even worse saying after a defeat "well it didn't matter anyway" What is wrong with folk who believe P&R should be abolished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 30/12/2021 at 08:47, Tommygilf said: Fans start to get unhappy quickly - especially those who constantly see their side ridiculed by the rest of the footballing world. They seemed to be having fun last night anyway, losing at home to Palace. "Let's pretend we scored a goal" got the whole stadium rocking, along with the chants of "sign him up, sign him up" from a pitch invader who missed an open goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Championship looks interesting, very open as usual, Bournemouth probably favourites for title but they've been slipping lately, and hats off to Tony Mowbray at Blackburn . My prediction is Bournemouth and Fulham automatic promotion but no idea for play off winner. Pos. Team Pl. GD. Pts. 1 AFC Bournemouth 25 21 49 2 Fulham 23 32 45 3 Blackburn 24 15 45 4 West Brom 24 12 41 5 Middlesbrough 25 5 39 6 Huddersfield 25 3 39 7 QPR 23 6 38 8 Stoke 23 4 35 9 Nottm Forest 25 4 34 10 Coventry 23 2 34 11 Millwall 23 1 33 As for relegation, Derby obviously, though Rooney is surprisingly looking good managerial material. Barnsley looking like relegation certainties, then any of about 7 others. 12 Sheff Utd 22 1 32 13 Blackpool 25 -6 30 14 Luton 22 4 29 15 Preston North End 22 -4 28 16 Swansea 22 -5 27 17 Birmingham 23 -8 27 18 Bristol City 24 -10 27 19 Hull 23 -8 23 20 Cardiff 23 -17 22 21 Reading 22 -7 21 22 Peterborough 23 -24 19 23 Barnsley 24 -20 14 24 Derby 24 -1 10 Edited December 31, 2021 by HawkMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, HawkMan said: Championship looks interesting, very open as usual, Bournemouth probably favourites for title but they've been slipping lately, and hats off to Tony Mowbray at Blackburn . My prediction is Bournemouth and Fulham automatic promotion but no idea for play off winner. Pos. Team Pl. GD. Pts. 1 AFC Bournemouth 25 21 49 2 Fulham 23 32 45 3 Blackburn 24 15 45 4 West Brom 24 12 41 5 Middlesbrough 25 5 39 6 Huddersfield 25 3 39 7 QPR 23 6 38 8 Stoke 23 4 35 9 Nottm Forest 25 4 34 10 Coventry 23 2 34 11 Millwall 23 1 33 As for relegation, Derby obviously, though Rooney is surprisingly looking good managerial material. Barnsley looking like relegation certainties, then any of about 7 others. 12 Sheff Utd 22 1 32 13 Blackpool 25 -6 30 14 Luton 22 4 29 15 Preston North End 22 -4 28 16 Swansea 22 -5 27 17 Birmingham 23 -8 27 18 Bristol City 24 -10 27 19 Hull 23 -8 23 20 Cardiff 23 -17 22 21 Reading 22 -7 21 22 Peterborough 23 -24 19 23 Barnsley 24 -20 14 24 Derby 24 -1 10 What a complete waste of money , far better to pick out the biggest or most geographical benificial team to replace Whoever is deemed not big enough or too close to other big teams to remain in the PL I'm sure that'd go down well Edited December 31, 2021 by GUBRATS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRL Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 How many points have Derby been deducted? If they had them returned, would that make them safe (for now)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRL Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 18/01/2013 at 18:49, Wolford6 said: Southampton ... up against Blackburn in the final of Britain's Most Clueless Football Club Owners. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21079956 From 2013. Any updates, apart from Newcastle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, CornwallRL said: How many points have Derby been deducted? If they had them returned, would that make them safe (for now)? 21 points, so yes they'd be OK, and hoping for the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRL Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, HawkMan said: 21 points, so yes they'd be OK, and hoping for the play offs. Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stirlin Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 hours ago, CornwallRL said: How many points have Derby been deducted? If they had them returned, would that make them safe (for now)? 3 wins on the trot for Derby , 22 games to go so they could escape the drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRL Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, Stirlin said: 3 wins on the trot for Derby , 22 games to go so they could escape the drop. They won't. That's what the EFL want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 A couple of pretty incredible crowds in local non league. Yesterday, Hastings drew 2,017 people for their Isthmian South Eastern Division game and, today, Bexhill of the Southern Combination got around five times their average with 406 in for the game against Eastbourne Town. I was at the latter. 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josef K Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Great comeback by Chelsea yesterday. As long as Liverpool don’t win the league i’ll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Wolves came out ahead last night in their epic middle of the table battle last night. #abu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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