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9 minutes ago, Wiltshire Rhino said:

A bit fishy you say. Read this thread... 

...and even if this is only partially correct, it is total insanity! 😠

The betting story is getting the headlines as its a good yarn with a shred of believeability.

But for me I thinking it comes down to the share price of the original holding company, International Entertainment Corp, seem to have done ok since overloading the club and the volumes of trades around the time of the sale seem to have shot up.  So there was a bet, just more likely to be on the stock market rather than the betting exchanges.

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On 03/07/2020 at 10:11, Gerrumonside ref said:

Well that guard of honour ended well...

City opened up Liverpool at will and ruthlessly exploited some poor defending.

Game on for next season, the gauntlet has been laid emphatically.

I am not fussed about that result; Liverpool (especially Robertson) looked like a pub team who’d been on the lash for a week...

City will spend big this summer to reclaim the title. Chelsea and United will strength again. I don’t either Liverpool or City will run away with the title like we’ve done this year. City favourites again as they’ll have the biggest and best squad. 

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2 hours ago, GeordieSaint said:

I am not fussed about that result; Liverpool (especially Robertson) looked like a pub team who’d been on the lash for a week...

City will spend big this summer to reclaim the title. Chelsea and United will strength again. I don’t either Liverpool or City will run away with the title like we’ve done this year. City favourites again as they’ll have the biggest and best squad. 

I think you are jumping the gun with the "City favourites" claim. If the UEFA ban is upheld, even a club as wealthy as City could struggle to attract the quality players they need. If the ban is overturned, then I think you could be correct.

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2 hours ago, tonyXIII said:

I think you are jumping the gun with the "City favourites" claim. If the UEFA ban is upheld, even a club as wealthy as City could struggle to attract the quality players they need. If the ban is overturned, then I think you could be correct.

I guess is the ban is upheld, it depends on if you can keep the likes of Sterling, De Bruyne et al. If overturned, the size of the squad and depth quality would make you favourites IMO. 

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5 hours ago, GeordieSaint said:

I am not fussed about that result; Liverpool (especially Robertson) looked like a pub team who’d been on the lash for a week...

City will spend big this summer to reclaim the title. Chelsea and United will strength again. I don’t either Liverpool or City will run away with the title like we’ve done this year. City favourites again as they’ll have the biggest and best squad. 

They'll need a defender of the quiality of Van Dijk or Kompany.

Liverpool learnt how to win close games at the start of the year and key players have remained injury free. They are the best liverpool side ever, IMO, but will have toug competition next season who will be gunning (*) for them.

(*) by that, I don't mean Arsenal.

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8 hours ago, GeordieSaint said:

I am not fussed about that result; Liverpool (especially Robertson) looked like a pub team who’d been on the lash for a week...

City will spend big this summer to reclaim the title. Chelsea and United will strength again. I don’t either Liverpool or City will run away with the title like we’ve done this year. City favourites again as they’ll have the biggest and best squad. 

I still think Liverpool and City will be half a step infront of the chasers. Chelsea have the potential to close the gap and will undoubtedly be the biggest threat to the top two. Spurs would have to go big in the transfer market but that’s not really them. Utd are an odd one I think in a one off game they have the beating of any of the top sides because of the pace in the team. Where I think they’ll struggle is in opening up sides who are happy for them to have the ball. 

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2 hours ago, bobbruce said:

Spurs would have to go big in the transfer market but that’s not really them.

It hasn’t been them with Levy very tight on budgets and purse strings, but it is Mourinho . Honestly I just don’t see the Spurs- Mourinho marriage as a natural one . It just doesn’t seem to fit , in playing style either. 

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5 minutes ago, DavidM said:

It hasn’t been them with Levy very tight on budgets and purse strings, but it is Mourinho . Honestly I just don’t see the Spurs- Mourinho marriage as a natural one . It just doesn’t seem to fit , in playing style either. 

Who does Mourinho fit with now? Maybe a lower half team desperate for a point to avoid relegation...

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10 hours ago, GeordieSaint said:

Who does Mourinho fit with now? 

No one. Mainly because football's moved on.

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31 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

As a United fan , as long as we don't turn into the borefest that is Man City under Pep , I'll be happy 

He’s a winning machine though which I guess is all that matters , and they can rip teams apart . Ancelotti’s style is very Italian but if he can bore Everton to a league cup triumph I’ll be as happy as a dog with two ... tails

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41 minutes ago, DavidM said:

He’s a winning machine though which I guess is all that matters , and they can rip teams apart . Ancelotti’s style is very Italian but if he can bore Everton to a league cup triumph I’ll be as happy as a dog with two ... tails

He is when he's got unlimited funding , how would he go on with Watford or Southampton , fairly sure my dog could get Barca or Bayern to a Title in those countries 

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5 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

He is when he's got unlimited funding , how would he go on with Watford or Southampton , fairly sure my dog could get Barca or Bayern to a Title in those countries 

Your dog may be needed at Barca because the title is Real’s this year, I believe.

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On 05/07/2020 at 10:49, GUBRATS said:

He is when he's got unlimited funding , how would he go on with Watford or Southampton , fairly sure my dog could get Barca or Bayern to a Title in those countries 

He gets that accusation a lot and I do understand it but he's still an excellent coach though and genuinely improves players. They have a very good budget at city but they've rarely gone for "galacticos" level signings, just a lot of quality in depth - which is far more sensible imo.

Undoubtedly he's been fortunate to coach at some of the best clubs in the world but his style of football is world class. 

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Sorry to point this out, but yesterday's Southampton vs Man City match highlights a small reason for the popularity of football. City dominated possession,  had chance after chance and lost. In RL a team so dominant would have racked up 50 points,  game over. Luck plays a huge part in football....thankfully. 

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11 hours ago, HawkMan said:

Sorry to point this out, but yesterday's Southampton vs Man City match highlights a small reason for the popularity of football. City dominated possession,  had chance after chance and lost. In RL a team so dominant would have racked up 50 points,  game over. Luck plays a huge part in football....thankfully. 

I thought your post was very insightful. I would also add that the difficulty in scoring in football is much higher which adds to the uncertainty.

 

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Glorious Werder survive for another season in the Bundesliga thanks to the away goals rule.

*wipes lifelong supporter tear from eye*

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On 06/07/2020 at 15:15, marklaspalmas said:

You Saints! They played very well.

I'm a Southampton fan, so obviously I was delighted with the effort they showed. It's fair to say we rode our luck mind. On another day we could easily have lost that game 4 or 5-1. But you need things to go your way if you're going to beat the big boys.

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1 hour ago, 17 stone giant said:

I'm a Southampton fan, so obviously I was delighted with the effort they showed. It's fair to say we rode our luck mind. On another day we could easily have lost that game 4 or 5-1. But you need things to go your way if you're going to beat the big boys.

The opposition fluffing chances and Macca having a blinder is not luck. Adams strike was good enough for 3 points. We March On.

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15 hours ago, gingerjon said:

Glorious Werder survive for another season in the Bundesliga thanks to the away goals rule.

*wipes lifelong supporter tear from eye*

Werder should be near the top, not struggling.

Learn to listen without distortion and learn to look without imagination.

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8 hours ago, Mister Ting said:

Werder should be near the top, not struggling.

The games I've watched, aside from the first one back where they/we were woeful, it's been quite hard to see why Werder are down the bottom. They've mostly moved the ball well and created chances, whilst being quite hard to score against. Even in the play-off, Heidenheim's second equaliser was with the last kick of the game and from a somewhat dubious penalty.

 

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