The never-ending League Restructure debate (Many merged threads)

[Ponterover]

Assuming all the present clubs survive to 2015 and Toulouse are accepted in -that will leave 14 teams in the championship.If Leicester and Coventry are ready for that level the then 16 teams could be split into a northern and southern section.That would make more sense with travelling times and costs at that level and at the same time give a national feel.

 

And won't that be absolutely fantastic?

 

The future looks really bright.

[Ponterover]

Sadly you can't expand the game when its foundations are built on sand...

 

No you can't, that's why all previous attempts failed.

 

Those foundations are looking stronger as each day goes by though.

[bamfordsbeans]

Strange that views on this forum are still mixed -yet all the clubs now seem to be in favour

[GeordieSaint]

No you can't, that's why all previous attempts failed.

 

Those foundations are looking stronger as each day goes by though.

 

Rugby League is a bottom-up fed organisation. With the fall in participation numbers at the junior/youth/amateur levels, a reduction in the number of Academies and a huge reduction in Sport England funding, I would suggest that the foundations are looking the opposite to your own opinion. Papering over the cracks at the top of the hierarchy is not going to change that and is a sign of an organisation who have poor corporate governance over the sport it runs.

[DAZROVER1985]

Very disappointed with this decision but I'll try and deal with it in a much better way than the BS from so many people over the last five years. That said, I do reserve the right to laugh and gloat when this is being torn up in a couple of years time. I only hope that not too much damage is done in the meantime.

hopefully not as much damage as the last 5 years then

[tuutaisrambo]

Awesome news...really happy                   

 

This will create more big games with more at stake at all levels and more excitement for any prospective new fans of the sport IMO.

 

If teams go bust it's cos they are run badly.......it's not the RFL's fault and not because they got relegated.

 

I might watch Super League before the play off's now as the threat of relegation this year should throw up some spicy fixtures!!!!

[Padge]

Ok that's the system, let's hope it works and people like me are shown to be wrong.

 

I hope I never have to come on here and say I told you so because if I do it means we will have had some serious casualties.

Edited January 17, 2014 by Padge

[Ponterover]

Ok that's the system, let's hope it works and people like me are shown to be wrong.

 

I hope I never have to come on here and say I told you so because if I do it means we will have had some serious casualties.

 

Can't say fairer than that Padge

 

Here's to the future.

[Methven Hornet]

Tweeters are saying this structure failed in Scotland. Did it?

I confess total ignorance here.

 

It failed in Switzerland, which was used as an argument against introducing it in Scotland. It failed to be introduced in Scotland.

[Padge]

Strange that views on this forum are still mixed -yet all the clubs now seem to be in favour

 

No, all the clubs voted it in, being in favour is different.

[gingerjon]

No, all the clubs voted it in, being in favour is different.

Unless you know differently the only confirmed unanimous vote was to reduce to 12.

[DAZROVER1985]

Let's hope it reinvigorates sky's coverage of the game after all hasn't super league been demoted to a Thursday filler spot for this season, hopefully a move back to prime time weekend slots. Obviously keeping the Friday nights as now

[Keith T]

They've said previously that SL will get 3, Champ 4

 

Then it's the luck of the draw, especially for the four Championship clubs, as to who gets to play who away from home.  

[DAZROVER1985]

Unless you know differently the only confirmed unanimous vote was to reduce to 12.

gary hetherington stated on sky sports news it was a majority vote so some clubs must of been against, judging by wigans chairmans statement he must of been against as he sounds like a man speaking with a dummy shoved back in his mouth

[Ponterover]

gary hetherington stated on sky sports news it was a majority vote so some clubs must of been against, judging by wigans chairmans statement he must of been against as he sounds like a man speaking with a dummy shoved back in his mouth

 

Dr K's tweet looks like he was against too, but he's vowed to make it work.

[Methven Hornet]

he tested himself at fev, and was found wanting

 

Oh, you said wanting.

I should go to specsavers.

[keighley]

Fantastic news for the sport. Can't wait for battle to commence

I hope you are right. I think not though since the deck is totally stacked against the championship clubs and the elite will have their self contained top tier.

1 or 2 up p and r would have given the championship teams a better chance.

[Saintslass]

I'm bemused that some people can enthuse about the new system when there hasn't even been a decision about how it is going to be financed or governed, and the detail of what will happen to the Championships or Challenge Cup or TV deals or title sponsorships has not been reported (assuming any of the same has even been considered - I know from Twitter that Premier Sports have no idea how this decision will affect them).  There is a massive risk of so much good being undermined which I think is particularly sad after enjoying such a terrific world cup.

[Ponterover]

I hope you are right. I think not though since the deck is totally stacked against the championship clubs and the elite will have their self contained top tier.

1 or 2 up p and r would have given the championship teams a better chance.

 

It's a whole game solution Keighley, it's not just about the championship.

Edited January 17, 2014 by Ponterover

[Saintslass]

It's a whole game solution Keighley, it's not just about the championship.

The problem is, though, that it isn't a whole game solution.  It is only about Superleague.

[Wellsy4HullFC]

I don't understand how it's too complicated. It's far less complicated than the current play-offs.

New structure - 23 regular round-robin rounds, top 8 play off for 7 games, semis then Grand Final.

Current - 27 regular round-robin rounds, top 8 play off for one week where half are competing for a semi place (losers in quarters) and other half are playing for the quarters, then the quarters, then the semis with a club call, then the Grand Final.

Previous - 27 regular rounds (22 round robin plus 5 extra), top 6 play off with top 2 getting a bye and next 4 playing off for the quarters, then top two playing for a GF spot and next to for semis, then one semi, then the Grand Final.

Seriously, how can it be considered more complicated than the current play off structure?

[Ponterover]

I'm bemused that some people can enthuse about the new system when there hasn't even been a decision about how it is going to be financed or governed, and the detail of what will happen to the Championships or Challenge Cup or TV deals or title sponsorships has not been reported (assuming any of the same has even been considered - I know from Twitter that Premier Sports have no idea how this decision will affect them).  There is a massive risk of so much good being undermined which I think is particularly sad after enjoying such a terrific world cup.

 

The meat will be put on the bones next month.  The important thing about today is that the principle has been passed, the detail will still require negotiation.

[DAZROVER1985]

I can't understand why people keep saying the top 8 clubs will pull away and will never change. Yet I have gone back to 2007 and we have never had the same teams finish in the top 8 year on year, so what makes people think that it's always going to be the same top 8 from now when facts tell you it won't

[Padge]

Unless you know differently the only confirmed unanimous vote was to reduce to 12.

 

Sorry, yes all clubs voted the reduction, it doesn't mean all clubs were in favour of the other restructure.

[redjonn]

I don't understand how it's too complicated. It's far less complicated than the current play-offs.

New structure - 23 regular round-robin rounds, top 8 play off for 7 games, semis then Grand Final.

Current - 27 regular round-robin rounds, top 8 play off for one week where half are competing for a semi place (losers in quarters) and other half are playing for the quarters, then the quarters, then the semis with a club call, then the Grand Final.

Previous - 27 regular rounds (22 round robin plus 5 extra), top 6 play off with top 2 getting a bye and next 4 playing off for the quarters, then top two playing for a GF spot and next to for semis, then one semi, then the Grand Final.

Seriously, how can it be considered more complicated than the current play off structure?

 

they are both daft... have to look at the common denominators that brought in either system.  The current one turned many away from the play-offs, now they hope the new one will bring them back.  I'm not convinced that it won't be at the expense of the regular rounds.

 

Anyway,,, danger is repeat the whole discussion again.   Hope it works as they hope. Personally I hope repetition doesn't affect me when it gets going. I've half way convincing myself I'll pick and choose games come 2015 and save myself monies.