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'maximising the financial return for the two competing clubs who share 100 per cent of the receipts generated'?

 

No costs or tax taken out then?


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I'm sure they will be happy with the £££'s that the Wigan fans provide.

 

Let's talk again after Saturday but with play-offs and a final to be paid for as well I'm not banking on a massive Wigan turnout in Leigh - and certainly not one significantly greater than if a proper neutral location had been chosen.


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Let's talk again after Saturday but with play-offs and a final to be paid for as well I'm not banking on a massive Wigan turnout in Leigh - and certainly not one significantly greater than if a proper neutral location had been chosen.

I don't disagree with you, but ultimately the London club were not confident enough to make a case for a more neutral venue.

 

I'd expect a crowd of around 6k. 

 

Do you realistically think a London or Midlands venue could have attracted that, personally I'm a bit split on it?

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I don't disagree with you, but ultimately the London club were not confident enough to make a case for a more neutral venue.

 

I'd expect a crowd of around 6k. 

 

Do you realistically think a London or Midlands venue could have attracted that, personally I'm a bit split on it?

 

I think probably as I reckon you'd get 4-5k from Wigan wherever it was played.

 

6k is what I think for Saturday as well.


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I think probably as I reckon you'd get 4-5k from Wigan wherever it was played.

 

6k is what I think for Saturday as well.

The problem is that if you played it in a non-RL ground, the terms may be too high for what could then be a sub-5k crowd.

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Perhaps London could play all their home SL games away?

That doesn't make sense with regards to this debate.

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That doesn't make sense with regards to this debate.

If it's a money issue as far as the CC game is concerned, wouldn't a SL game of London v Wigan get more fans (and more revenue) from playing the game at Wigan's ground?

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If it's a money issue as far as the CC game is concerned, wouldn't a SL game of London v Wigan get more fans (and more revenue) from playing the game at Wigan's ground?

a decision has to be made on a neutral venue for the cc semi. It doesnt for a London home SL game.

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a decision has to be made on a neutral venue for the cc semi. It doesnt for a London home SL game.

 

I think you missed a bit of tongue in cheek there. He was suggesting that if crowds and revenue are the 'be all' then London could play all their home SL fixtures at their opponents' grounds and, by default, get a bigger average than they get playing at the Stoop.

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The irony in all this for me is that the RL didn't see the need to issue this recent statement at the same time that the venues were announced.

It highlights how little they consider us supporters (their customers) when reaching a decision and what the reaction would be. If they were truly in tune they would have seen the criticism coming and headed it off.

Lack of awareness. Lack of consideration.

Bit embarrassing.......

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I think you missed a bit of tongue in cheek there. He was suggesting that if crowds and revenue are the 'be all' then London could play all their home SL fixtures at their opponents' grounds and, by default, get a bigger average than they get playing at the Stoop.

i got that it wasnt a serious suggestion, but i assume it was to make a point. Ultimately it doesnt really work.

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Of course there is always the point that playing at Wigan's home game would actually be more convenient for the London fans than playing in Leigh.  Wigan has a station!!!  Another practical point, Wigan's ground is big enough to hold Wigan's average gate, Leigh isn't!

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Of course there is always the point that playing at Wigan's home game would actually be more convenient for the London fans than playing in Leigh.  Wigan has a station!!!  Another practical point, Wigan's ground is big enough to hold Wigan's average gate, Leigh isn't!

Wigans average gate do not attend Challenge Cup ties, the LSV is more than ample for this tie. I doubt they'll open all ends.


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The irony in all this for me is that the RL didn't see the need to issue this recent statement at the same time that the venues were announced.

It highlights how little they consider us supporters (their customers) when reaching a decision and what the reaction would be. If they were truly in tune they would have seen the criticism coming and headed it off.

Lack of awareness. Lack of consideration.

Bit embarrassing.......

 

There's no need for you to  be embarrassed. Criticising the RFL is becoming the default position on here.

 

Why should the RFL issue such a statement?  To say this shows how little the RFL considers the supporters,  spectators or viewers, is not correct in my opinion. 

 

As an aside, I think the train issue is a red herring...in my view the great majority of London fans will travel by car, be the game at the Stoop, Wembley or Invercockyleekie. In any case choosing a ground for ease of rail travel discriminates against those over 60s who intend to travel by bus on free passes.

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There's no need for you to be embarrassed. Criticising the RFL is becoming the default position on here.

Why should the RFL issue such a statement? To say this shows how little the RFL considers the supporters, spectators or viewers, is not correct in my opinion.

As an aside, I think the train issue is a red herring...in my view the great majority of London fans will travel by car, be the game at the Stoop, Wembley or Invercockyleekie. In any case choosing a ground for ease of rail travel discriminates against those over 60s who intend to travel by bus on free passes.

Stop it. I'm easily embarrassed.....

Don't agree. From the posts on here it's fair to say that many fans think its not right that London have to travel to Wigan's backyard for a semi.

Forget the £ signs for that 1 game - the sport has to be bigger than that surely?

For outsiders looking at our sport it just confirms the M62 corridor mentality.

If only 200 London fans travel they are still getting a bum deal.

Small minded thinking that will never grow the game.

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Criticising the RFL is becoming the default position on here.

 

No it's not. They are rightly praised when they do something well and criticised when people think the opposite.

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I think if i was a Wigan fan i would be hard pressed to get excited about this one. I wonder where they would have played Catalans v London???!!

 

I wish the RFL had the money to take this fixture to a half way venue (such as say Coventry) but it probably just doesn't have the money to justify the spend for a one off event. Bit depressing but i'm sure the final will make up for it.

Coventry City have pulled out of the Ricoh Arena (spelling ?) So id imagine the management of the RA would have been very open to the idea of renting it out for any game & a great deal could have been worked out, IMHO. 

 

If Wigan would take 5K and the RFL advertised the heck out of it in the Midlands I wonder how many Midlands base people who take an interest in RL would have attended ?  

 

It would have given Midland folk a big important game right on their doorstep while promoting RL in one of its fledgling expansion area's, win/win in my book. 

 

Also many more London fans would have travelled, wouldn't they ?

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No it's not. They are rightly praised when they do something well and criticised when people think the opposite.

The problem is that they don't often do something well!

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Let me get this right. Clubs need money to operate. London have been criticised by some for not doing enough marketing, or not finding another stadium, and for lots of other things. All of this needs money. Then the club does something " to make money"  and it is wrong. 

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Only in Rugby League eh?  :(


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Coventry City have pulled out of the Ricoh Arena (spelling ?) So id imagine the management of the RA would have been very open to the idea of renting it out for any game & a great deal could have been worked out, IMHO.

If Wigan would take 5K and the RFL advertised the heck out of it in the Midlands I wonder how many Midlands base people who take an interest in RL would have attended ?

It would have given Midland folk a big important game right on their doorstep while promoting RL in one of its fledgling expansion area's, win/win in my book.

Also many more London fans would have travelled, wouldn't they ?

thats all well and good Mick, but the reality is that Wigan would probably have taken 4k to Coventry, London 500 and maybe 300 neutrals.

The crowd would have been rubbish. People need to stop dealing in fantasy rl on things like this. 5k in that large stadium with rent going out of the game would have been rubbish.

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thats all well and good Mick, but the reality is that Wigan would probably have taken 4k to Coventry, London 500 and maybe 300 neutrals.

The crowd would have been rubbish. People need to stop dealing in fantasy rl on things like this. 5k in that large stadium with rent going out of the game would have been rubbish.

That crowd in Coventry would be less embarrassing than the 5 or 6 they will get in Leigh.

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That crowd in Coventry would be less embarrassing than the 5 or 6 they will get in Leigh.

Why would it attract a crowd of 5k in Coventry and what benefit would it have to both clubs financially?


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