Ponterover Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 When is the meeting to discuss how the money is spread? There's a meeting of Championship Chairmen next week, don't know about SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I have heard the £200m mentioned today also, and here is how I would allocate it, assuming we start at say £35m and rise to £45m in year 5 1. Central funding for England squad playing in SL, say 10 grade 1 at £200k each, 15 grade 2 at £100k each - reviewed every 2 years 2. SL1 at £1.5m rising to £1.9m - the clubs providing the england players in essence get more money 3. SL2 at £750k rising to £950k - with a caveat that they must be FT and a playing budget no less than £1.1m rising to £1.4m 4. Champ 1 £100k rising to £130k but season to finish in August allowing time to recruit should the winner meet criteria for promotion 5. £1m central marketing budget pa Broad brush figures but fits strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 My "vision" for the future is effectively a 2 tier SL, in which all of our current or once great clubs are in good shape. Oldham, Fev, Leigh, Fax, etc etc have shown in the past that they can produce players and draw crowds. If we ever stand a chance of beating the Aussies we need every one of these wonderful clubs feeling included. The World Cup conclusively showed that there is an appetite for properly marketed RL in non SL grounds. With North Wales Crusaders and Toulouse in SL1/2, then we will have at last got a European SL with the best traditional clubs having a great chance of success, and the best chance of the non English finding their level. Wow! Just wonderful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhw Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 It would be helpful to know how things have been going on Premier. From memory, second tier rugby used to pull in around 30,000 - 60,000 viewers? If that were repeated it would make it the highest non-soccer on SS4. WWE, Golf, Cricket ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amber Avenger Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Looking at all the announcements Sky have made today, I suspect they are more to do with stabilising the share price of the company after they announced last year’s profits were dented yesterday (see - http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/30/bskyb-profits-premier-league-deal). As well as SL and a ton of other sports being picked up today, they also anounced they have renewed their HBO deal for Sky Atlantic which is also a big deal. So for anyone thinking this is purely due to the restructure of the league, I suspect this has been in the pipeline for a while. The fact it’s come out so soon after our changes have been announced is a happy coincidence I suspect. SQL Honours Play off mini league winner - 2002. Bronze Medalist - 2003. Big Split Group Winner - 2006. Minor Stupidship - 2005, 2006. Cup Silver Medalist - 2008, 2009 CHAMPION - 2005, 2009, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Sadler Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 When is the meeting to discuss how the money is spread? Yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAZROVER1985 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Yesterday!any news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryO Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Press releases are not evidence. You tell me seriously Terry, if there had been no rival bidders SKY would have upped the contract? And if there was only Tesco to shop at we would be paying £10 for a loaf. Give up Parky, accept what has been done, and as for you stating in another post: "If were going to debate RL based on press releases equally based on agendas like Wood saving his skin, then we are into fantasy RL" Funnily enough you were quite happy to quote Mr Sadler when you both had the same hymn sheet! "If Rugby League had never been Invented, today we would only have Rugby League" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughyedspud Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 at least we're only one promotion away from decent money..... OLDHAM RLFC the 8TH most successful team in british RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Sadler Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 any news? It's worth taking out a subscription to or buying a copy of League Express. It will be online at around 11.00pm on Sunday night. It should be a very interesting issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 First instinct was that it would have had to be a good deal for the RFL/SL to go for it so far ahead of time. If £200m is the correct figure, then that sounds promising. Presumably inflation gobbles up a chunk of that increase, especially towards the back end, but still a significant real-terms increase on the current figure. Before we start writing cheques to clubs and they start writing cheques to players with promises for 2017, we should work out how that money is going to be used to set up the youth and grassroots structures we need to compete in a 21st-century sport market. And what proportion needs to go to the representative/international/RLIF side of things. I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweaty craiq Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 This will be the catalyst to potentially develop significant sponsorship opportunities and propel the sport - do not miss this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadera78 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 No doubt there'll be a clear definition in the contract of how much is paid per game, and that will be different for SL / Championship / Challenge Cup games. On that basis the money should be shared out in a similar ratio, so if (for example) SL games generate 75% of the value then 75% of the money should go to SL clubs. IIRC one of the issues raised by Adam Pearson was that the RFL wouldn't actually tell the clubs how much was being raised by the various deals. They were only giving broad figures and then announcing how much each club was getting. That would have to change. "Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart." Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 of Us Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Andy Wilson is reporting that deal "until 2021". That makes it a £200 over 4 years. Can anyone confirm? http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/jan/30/sky-tv-deal-super-league-nigel-wood-rugby?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter http://www.wiganstpats.org Producing Players Since 1910 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 No doubt there'll be a clear definition in the contract of how much is paid per game, and that will be different for SL / Championship / Challenge Cup games. On that basis the money should be shared out in a similar ratio, so if (for example) SL games generate 75% of the value then 75% of the money should go to SL clubs. IIRC one of the issues raised by Adam Pearson was that the RFL wouldn't actually tell the clubs how much was being raised by the various deals. They were only giving broad figures and then announcing how much each club was getting. That would have to change. It's a good starting point (btw, on the assumption that Sky are showing 100 games, 20 of which are from the Championship the split for the 'league' part should be 4:1 on that basis) but would mean that there was no money at all for Championship 1, the community game etc etc. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooza Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Andy Wilson is reporting that deal "until 2021". That makes it a £200 over 4 years. Can anyone confirm? http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/jan/30/sky-tv-deal-super-league-nigel-wood-rugby?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter 5 years 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 Check out upcoming international fixtures and highlights of past matches at http://rlfixtures.weebly.com St Albans Centurions International Liaison Officer and former Medway Dragons Wheelchair RL player.Leeds Rhinos, St Albans Centurions y Griffons Madrid fan. Also follow (to a lesser extent) Catalans Dragons, London Broncos, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Jacksonville Axemen, Vrchlabi Mad Squirrels, København Black Swans, Red Star Belgrade and North Hertfordshire Crusaders.Moderator of the International board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooza Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 It's a good starting point (btw, on the assumption that Sky are showing 100 games, 20 of which are from the Championship the split for the 'league' part should be 4:1 on that basis) but would mean that there was no money at all for Championship 1, the community game etc etc. And a HUGE cut for Les Catalans! Check out upcoming international fixtures and highlights of past matches at http://rlfixtures.weebly.com St Albans Centurions International Liaison Officer and former Medway Dragons Wheelchair RL player.Leeds Rhinos, St Albans Centurions y Griffons Madrid fan. Also follow (to a lesser extent) Catalans Dragons, London Broncos, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Jacksonville Axemen, Vrchlabi Mad Squirrels, København Black Swans, Red Star Belgrade and North Hertfordshire Crusaders.Moderator of the International board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Andy Wilson is reporting that deal "until 2021". That makes it a £200 over 4 years. Can anyone confirm? http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/jan/30/sky-tv-deal-super-league-nigel-wood-rugby?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter was beaten to it! Very upbeat article from Wilson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 And a HUGE cut for Les Catalans! They'll have to shrug and bear it. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingking Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Well done to Nigel Wood and the RFL for negotiating what appears to be a good deal for the sport. A pat on the back too for all the fans who have been watching games on Sky and too all who turned out for the World Cup. Your support has given Sky a reminder about the importance of rugby league in their portfolio. www.twitter.com/flyingking2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longboard Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Can things get any better for rugby league at the moment A well planned international calendar would help make it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 Think we might be getting carried away divvying money out. Doesn't it mention the next two years have been renegotiated as well. Are we sure the supposed £200m isn't over the full term ie 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooza Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Do you think almost £1m gap between SL1 and SL2 would be conducive to the middle 8 play offs working as anticipated Dave? I'd like to see the figures a little closer than that and more for the lower tier too. That seems to be the aim As things stand clubs in the Championship receive only around £90,000 per year compared to funding for the Super League clubs of more than £1m, and Rimmer said: "At the moment there is a funding ratio of 12 to one and, if that can be changed to a two-one ratio, we will have a more competitive structure." Check out upcoming international fixtures and highlights of past matches at http://rlfixtures.weebly.com St Albans Centurions International Liaison Officer and former Medway Dragons Wheelchair RL player.Leeds Rhinos, St Albans Centurions y Griffons Madrid fan. Also follow (to a lesser extent) Catalans Dragons, London Broncos, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Jacksonville Axemen, Vrchlabi Mad Squirrels, København Black Swans, Red Star Belgrade and North Hertfordshire Crusaders.Moderator of the International board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooza Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 They'll have to shrug and bear it. Sorry, I meant a lot more for them, what with having every home match televised Check out upcoming international fixtures and highlights of past matches at http://rlfixtures.weebly.com St Albans Centurions International Liaison Officer and former Medway Dragons Wheelchair RL player.Leeds Rhinos, St Albans Centurions y Griffons Madrid fan. Also follow (to a lesser extent) Catalans Dragons, London Broncos, South Sydney Rabbitohs, Jacksonville Axemen, Vrchlabi Mad Squirrels, København Black Swans, Red Star Belgrade and North Hertfordshire Crusaders.Moderator of the International board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 of Us Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Andy Wilson is reporting that deal "until 2021". That makes it a £200 over 4 years. Can anyone confirm? http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/jan/30/sky-tv-deal-super-league-nigel-wood-rugby?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Doh. Sky says 5! http://www.wiganstpats.org Producing Players Since 1910 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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