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23 hours ago, Graham said:

Why dislike Bellamy? He is undoubtedly a consistently top head coach who is serious about his job and can motivate his players like very few others.  I would imagine almost every other club would have been happy to have him as their head coach over the years. Okay he puts his club first but surely that’s his strength. He also brooks no nonsense from anyone. He instils loyalty in his players. He makes them train hard and knows how to get the best out of players. He has also shown he knows how to get improvement out of players previously considered ordinary or journeymen. 
I’d be interested to know why folk say they dislike him.

I read the book he put out a couple of Christmases ago. I got little insight into him as a man, but a lot about him as a coach and RL man.

I dislike Bellamy because of his role in salary cap manipulations, the promotion of techniques that slow the game down and (potentially) lead to more injuries for the players and his demeanour in general. He has also coached and encouraged some of the most unpleasant and grubbiest players of the last 20 years. Having said that, nobody (even Wayne Bennett) has done a better job for the team he has coached, its just that the game as a whole is worse off for his influence.

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North Sydney Bears mend rifts that threatened to tear the club apart (smh.com.au)

Not sure if you can open this but doesn`t really matter because the relevant quote was in an article preceding this one last week.

The gist of it was recent ructions on the Bears Board were threatening the Bears efforts to be be ready if an NRL club approached them about a tie up or what I gather was meant - a joint venture.

Have to admit that I am a little surprised that the Bears are still harbouring serious ambitions about a return to the NRL, albeit in a joint venture and see themselves as preparing the club so that they are an attractive proposition.

The Bears mightn`t have a lot going for them in terms of fans or location but they do have a very big Leagues club who is continuing to show their commitment to the Football club. Good to know they are still out there looking, it would be great if they could join up with an expansion club, and I don`t mean the central coast, used to be lot of Kiwis who played for the Bears !!  

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1 hour ago, The Rocket said:

Good to know they are still out there looking, it would be great if they could join up with an expansion club, and I don`t mean the central coast, used to be lot of Kiwis who played for the Bears !!  

The superficial match would be with the red and black of Canterbury. However, if there ever were a Christchurch-based NRL club, they would probably want a wider South Island identity. And if two branches of an NRL franchise were so far apart, the link would only be theoretical, so why bother? Norths Leagues would hardly be likely to prioritise resources for grass roots football in NZ, over their own area.

If healthy numbers of Bears "fans" had supported the club in the NSW Cup, they could have stood a chance of readmission. Over here, this is usually what determines whether a RL or Soccer club can bounce back from relegation.

On the positive side, North Sydney have demonstrated laudable commitment to their NSW women`s premiership team through the past 3 years.

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5 hours ago, unapologetic pedant said:

The superficial match would be with the red and black of Canterbury. However, if there ever were a Christchurch-based NRL club, they would probably want a wider South Island identity. And if two branches of an NRL franchise were so far apart, the link would only be theoretical, so why bother? Norths Leagues would hardly be likely to prioritise resources for grass roots football in NZ, over their own area.

If healthy numbers of Bears "fans" had supported the club in the NSW Cup, they could have stood a chance of readmission. Over here, this is usually what determines whether a RL or Soccer club can bounce back from relegation.

On the positive side, North Sydney have demonstrated laudable commitment to their NSW women`s premiership team through the past 3 years.

The article definitely said that they were preparing themselves for a suitor, they will want some recognition in the joint venture I assume, be it part of the name or a Bear on the jumper somewhere, even on a sleeve or the chest.

I can`t see why a link up with a Kiwi team mightn`t work, the team would be based in NZ, NSW Cup team based in North Sydney and there would be two junior nurseries. Not so different from Balmain, a tiny suburb one kilometre from Sydney`s CBD and Wests which stretch as far from the city as Campbelltown, the two suburbs really have nothing to do with each other but the joint venture play a couple of games every year at Leichardt to keep the Balmain fans happy. North Sydney oval could serve a similar purpose.

The Bears obviously want to get back in and there is no way the NRL are going to let another team back in Sydney, I can`t see a Sydney club joining up with them especially if it means recognition on the jumper or name, so where are they thinking. Very interesting.

 

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More info:

The NRL and Brisbane will seek further advice from the Victorian government after it declared the Queensland capital a red zone as 50 Broncos players and staff hit the road for at least the next fortnight.

The announcement of a snap, three-day lockdown by Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk was followed by Victoria's stance, which requires a permit and 14 days quarantine to be observed to enter the state from 6pm on Monday.

Kevin Walters's side flew out of Brisbane to Sydney on a chartered flight at 4pm AEDT, where they will prepare for Friday's grudge match with the Storm.

Speaking before the Victorian government's update, NRL head of football Graham Annesley said the clash would go ahead as scheduled at Melbourne's AAMI Park.

However, the prospect of shifting the match to Sydney, as part of a Good Friday double header at Stadium Australia after the traditional Bulldogs-Rabbitohs fixture, has also been discussed.

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2 hours ago, Futtocks said:

 

I thought this was tied to the Bears story when I saw it! North Sydney Broncos has a good ring to it, as a foundation club they should get naming rights, Brisbane Bears nnah🐨

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One thing that’s been on my mind - obstruction from kicks . Why is it obstruction / escorting solely on the receiver when the ball is coming down . Officials as we know are hot on this . But what about obstruction / escorting by teammates shielding the kicker when the ball’s going up ? Just see how often a defender coming to try and pressure a kicker is blocked by a player who just happens to wander into his way . Never ever even gets mentioned 

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Moses Mbye:

Wests Tigers fullback Moses Mbye has asked that he can look at options elsewhere for the 2022 season.

Mbye, 27, remains contracted for next season on a deal worth a reported $800,000-per-year.

The former Wests captain has played just 153 minutes so far this season after coming off the bench in the Tigers’ past two games.

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23 minutes ago, Graham said:

Moses Mbye:

Wests Tigers fullback Moses Mbye has asked that he can his look at options elsewhere for the 2022 season.

Mbye, 27, remains contracted for next season on a deal worth a reported $800,000-per-year.

The former Wests captain has played just 153 minutes so far this season after coming off the bench in the Tigers’ past two games.

Best for both , he’s treading water if not going backwards 

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On 30/03/2021 at 01:40, DavidM said:

One thing that’s been on my mind - obstruction from kicks . Why is it obstruction / escorting solely on the receiver when the ball is coming down . Officials as we know are hot on this . But what about obstruction / escorting by teammates shielding the kicker when the ball’s going up ? Just see how often a defender coming to try and pressure a kicker is blocked by a player who just happens to wander into his way . Never ever even gets mentioned 

Kickers are a protected species in our game and any attempt to put pressure on the kicker has to be timed perfectly (which isn`t easy), one second late and you are pinged. I can only imagine the game is addicted to those pin-point bombs and the aerial acrobatics that ensue and don`t want anything to impinge on that i.e. hence the latitude given to wandering blockers like you say. I suppose another point is most end of set kicks are done by halves, often seen as a crucial member of any team, and not easily replaceable, perhaps another reason why they are given a little more latitude in the protected species stakes.

I know you are not a fan of changing the six-again rule, I remember your comments from when I opened that thread ages ago, change that though and there will be a lot more pressure on going for the ball and not the kicker. If the officials know the kicker is safe and the attacker is after the ball more scrutiny may be placed on those trying to block them. 

 

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On 29/03/2021 at 15:40, DavidM said:

 Just see how often a defender coming to try and pressure a kicker is blocked by a player who just happens to wander into his way . 

Players can stand wherever they choose. They don`t have to make way for their opponents. 

I think the obstruction rules are draconian in general. All these restrictions on outside shoulders and running behind your own player limit the patterns of play. Only if a player clearly changes his line to cut straight across should he be penalised. If he remains static, it`s up to opponents to adjust.

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5 hours ago, DavidM said:

My point is more subtle than that 

Even if you do say so yourself.

On 29/03/2021 at 15:40, DavidM said:

 Just see how often a defender coming to try and pressure a kicker is blocked by a player who just happens to wander into his way .

If the player positions himself between kicker and defender and remains static, that`s a block but perfectly legal. 

If the player actively moves across the path of the defender, that`s obstruction.

Which of the above best captures the subtlety of "a player who just happens to wander into his way"?

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8 hours ago, DavidM said:

Best for both , he’s treading water if not going backwards 

as long as he doesn't come to sl- garbage at the dogs - rubbish at the tigers

see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile 

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NBL and Basketball Australia fail when it comes to allegations of violence against women (theaustralian.com.au)

Basketball Australia and the NBL have proved themselves to be gutless and rudderless when it comes to allegations of violence against women.

Any sporting leader with any ounce of moral fibre these days, in this current climate, would understand that allowing an athlete who is charged with a violent assault of a woman to play is a shocking look.

The only way a sporting code can show a true sign of respect towards women in these situations, to really lead in this space, is to stand down a player facing a serious charge.

The NRL are the only football code in this country that get this issue and show victims (who are mostly women) this level of respect.

Then again, the code is being run by two very progressive administrators — chair Peter V’Landys and CEO Andrew Abdo — backed by a commission with a serious understanding of issues involving violence and women. They are not all talk, they take action.

The NRL’S no-fault stand down policy stops players charged with serious crimes involving women or children taking the field. That’s respect.

From Chief Sports writer for The Australian Jessica Halloran.

Warms the cockles of my heart reading references to the game administration like this.

 

 

 

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Gold Coast Titans have been allowed to return to Queensland ahead of next Saturday’s game against Newcastle Knights.

Justin Holbrook’s side were forced to relocate their round four ‘home’ clash with Canberra Raiders to Sydney’s Netstrata Jubilee Stadium due to the worsening COVID-19 situation in their home state. 

However, the Titans can return to the Gold Coast tomorrow, meaning next weekend’s game at the Cbus Super Stadium can go ahead as originally planned.

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Sam Walker was born in Leeds during his father’s season at the club.

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Walker was born in Leeds, West Yorkshire, England while his Australian father Benwas playing in England for the Leeds Rhinos in the Super League.

He was raised in Ipswich, Queensland, and played his junior rugby league for the North Ipswich Tigers.He attended Ipswich Grammar School before being signed by the Brisbane Broncos.

Walker's uncles Shane and Chris are also former professional rugby league players.

 

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South Sydney’s salary cap struggles might push Adam Reynolds out — and now another player is set to join him.

A report I read today suggests Dane Gagai could be leaving too.

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Souths winger Dane Gagai has reportedly been offered to the Parramatta Eels as they try to manage their salary cap.

Gagai, who has played 206 NRL games for the Broncos, Knights and Rabbitohs, declared last week that he is willing to take a pay cut to allow the club to re-sign Reynolds.

However, Channel 9’s Danny Weidler reports that if Adam Reynolds stays at the club, Gagai could still be forced out.

Reynolds’ future has been the centre of speculation, with his agent Steve Gillis declaring last week that unless the Rabbitohs increase their offer to a two or or three-year deal, he will likely depart the club.

 

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