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Chris Sandow hasn’t given up hope of playing in the NRL for 2017 with at least three clubs believed to be interested in him.
The 27-year-old upped and walked out on the final year of his UK contract with Warrington as he said he was homesick.
 
I know players can have issues with clubs and that playing at the other side of the world to your family is a biggy.
All the same it's the duty of someone in a contract to go and talk to the club and explain and ask for help or special consideration.
Hopefully then the matter can be resolved decently.
To go awol and then give an excuse from that great distance is wrong.
The bloke obviously has a chequered history in the game.

AAP:

He left South Sydney for a big money deal at Parramatta in 2012 but after an up and down few years with the Eels he departed in acrimonious circumstances following a falling out with coach Brad Arthur in 2015.
St George Illawarra on Tuesday categorically ruled out making a play for the 27-year-old Cherbourg product.
Sandow admitted he had yet to receive an offer from an NRL club but harboured a desire to return to Australia’s top flight competition.
“I wish they (clubs) were knocking at the door. It’s only family members asking for money,” he said.

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Segyaro's boats are burned with Leeds anyway.

He's walked out on a reputed $600,000 over two seasons at Leeds.

He's back home hoping a club will help him out.

We are told today that all 9 'Sydney' clubs have turned down making an approach for him.

His contract plus the transfer fee would count towards any club's salary cap.

 

I read that Leeds through Gary Hetherington have said they wouldn't accept him back.

I also saw that Leeds are offering to swap any 2017 replica shirts trimmed up with Segeyaro's name and squad number can have it replaced at no charge for another replica shirt with any other player's name and number on it.

Plus of course Leeds are reckoned to be suing him.

Seems like he's way up that well known creek.

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Glas D , if melbourne got carney the memberships would go thru the roof.

Personally id be beside myself to see him in a storm jersey,melbourne would be best fit for him could fly under the radar. Too much attention in sydney almost causes him to play up at times although hes done nothing id hold against him.

Ive still got hope storm get him.

One final point with the worry of league losing players to union why would nrl ban carney he hasnt killed anyone and yet been loyal saying he'd never leave league because leagues in his dna. The guy hates union wdn't leave for 20 mil i rekon. Doesn;t that loyalty deserve some respect.

What kind of halfwits are running the nrl?

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Chris Sandow hasn’t given up hope of playing in the NRL for 2017 with at least three clubs believed to be interested in him.

The 27-year-old upped and walked out on the final year of his UK contract with Warrington as he said he was homesick.

 

I know players can have issues with clubs and that playing at the other side of the world to your family is a biggy.

All the same it's the duty of someone in a contract to go and talk to the club and explain and ask for help or special consideration.

 

I don't buy the "homesick" rubbish. These players all have well-paid agents who should have explained all of the pitfalls long before any contract was signed. If these players were a bit unsure they should have dropped their asking price in return for some mutually-agreed get-out clauses in the contract.

 

 

... and while we are at it, as well as Sandow, we've got Segeyaro and Solomona turning their backs on Super League all at the same time.

It looks bad and reflects poorly on the game and not just SL.

Who's top dog here - players and their agents or the club and our game?

 

Not trying to be anti-Brit or NRL-supremacist but I think it reflects very accurately on SL.

 

 

Segyaro's boats are burned with Leeds anyway.

He's walked out on a reputed $600,000 over two seasons at Leeds.

He's back home hoping a club will help him out.

We are told today that all 9 'Sydney' clubs have turned down making an approach for him.

His contract plus the transfer fee would count towards any club's salary cap.

 

Not sure about that. Pretty sure in the Ratboy case, the transfer fee didn't count towards salary cap. For me, the biggest question was always, "Why the hell did Segeyaro go to Leeds in the first place?" closely followed by "Why the hell did Segeyaro extend his deal at the Rhinos?" Why not just play out the season as the second-highest-paid player in the NSW Cup? (Robbie Farah won that title) If the Panthers still didn't want him, I'm sure they would've negotiated a mutually-satisfactory release and he would have been snapped up immediately by St George or Wests Tigers or Parra.

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From a week ago:

AAP:
Todd Carney's long-running legal stoush with NRL premiers Cronulla over his dismissal from the Sharks has not been fixed.
A favourable decision for Carney would clear the way for the playmaker to be placed on the NRL market in the hope of finding a club for the 2017 season.
It's believed St George Illawarra and Melbourne are in the mix for Carney should the NSW Supreme Court rule he was wrongly sacked by Cronulla in 2014 over his infamous 'bubbler' incident.
"He will be playing in the NRL next year,'' a source close to Carney told News Corp recently.

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Not sure about that. Pretty sure in the Ratboy case, the transfer fee didn't count towards salary cap. For me, the biggest question was always, "Why the hell did Segeyaro got to Leeds in the first place?" closely followed by "Why the hell did Segeyaro extend his deal at the Rhinos?" Why not just play out the season as the second-highest-paid player in the NSW Cup? (Robbie Farah won that title) If the Panthers still didn't want him, I'm sure they would've negotiated a mutually-satisfactory release and he would have been snapped up immediately by St George or Wests Tigers or Parra.

It was reported as counting in a report that's on the FoxSports website.

 

Also seen this on Love Rugby League:

But with a large transfer fee of AUS$425,000 on him he will find it hard to land a new contract. According to The Daily Telegraph, Segeyaro won't be playing Sydney.

The hooker had been linked with Cronulla but Sharks chairman Lyall Gorman told the Sydney newspaper: "We have no interest in any player when they’re contracted to another club".

“If that situation was to ever change, you’d look at your roster and test your appetite."

“In relation to transfer fees, they’ve become a major salary cap hurdle and management issue."

"Our general principle is we wouldn’t invest in players with a transfer fee attached to them.’’

 

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It was reported as counting in a report that's on the FoxSports website.

 

Also seen this on Love Rugby League:

I still think they're wrong. Sadly, the NRL hasn't updated the Salary Cap section of their site for years - they still have the "current" cap at $4.4 million.

 

There was a working group formed by the NRL earlier this year to examine a possible "off-field" salary cap on clubs' football department spending which may or may not have included transfer fees. Either way, I'm not aware that the working group has delivered a report or that any "off-field" salary cap rules have been introduced yet.

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Not trying to be anti-Brit or NRL-supremacist but I think it reflects very accurately on SL.

 

Spot on. It's nothing more than the net result of SL becoming more inward-looking and unambitious post-licensing. SL can have all of its creaking old M62 clubs in a P&R format or it can have its share of high calibre Antipodean players. There is no logical reason why it should expect both in 2016. 

 

What's most worrying for SL is that these player walk-outs have long since been the preserve of the fringe sides like Hull KR, Castleford etc. and even the slightly bigger likes of Hull FC, Warrington et al but until now they hadn't infected a "Holy Trinity" side (Leeds, Wigan, Saints). Clearly it marks the beginning of a slide back into the pack for these sides, which will excite many heartland fans by leveling the playing field but obviously result in yet lower standards and a general falling tide for all SL boats. And obviously a still smaller regard for SL as a viable career option for any half-decent Aussie player. 

 

We reap what we sow.

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It reflects on the players involved. Their history and character are a big part of this.

The fact you sign a contract, run off, and produce some excuses from half a world away says a lot about them.

Or maybe you just hang about in limbo trying to sell yourself to a nearby RU club,

A mistake the clubs made was when they signed these players despite in some cases some worrying signs at their previous clubs.

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It reflects on the players involved. Their history and character are a big part of this.

The fact you sign a contract, run off, and produce some excuses from half a world away says a lot about them.

Or maybe you just hang about in limbo trying to sell yourself to a nearby RU club,

A mistake the clubs made was when they signed these players despite in some cases some worrying signs at their previous clubs.

mmm, yes, but ....... I don't think any NRL fans are surprised by the Sandow situation. One might say that, in OZ anyway, his history and character had already reflected on him negatively, to the point where he had to go to SL.

 

The clubs hold a lot of the responsibility. Every NRL fan could have told HKR that Campese had a 0% chance of making it through a whole season but they signed him anyway. Sure they got him at a subsidised price but is it really a bargain when you need to buy a spare player to cover for his absences?

 

Do the SL clubs honestly think that their coaching and player support networks are so much better than the NRL clubs that they can buy these "troubled" players but won't have problems with them? It comes back, IMO, to the inability of Brit RL/SL clubs to produce bums-on-seats players. If Billy Slater was permanently on crutches and had severe brain damage, Salford would sign him because he would still be a bigger attraction than anyone else they could get.

 

The stupidest part is that there are cheaper, lower-profile, quality club-level players available but SL recruiters want the marquee players instead. Look at all the miles Cas have got out of Grant Millington. Blake Green at HKR. Joel Moon at Leeds.

 

I'm not excusing the players at all but you can't break a contract unless someone signed you in the first place.

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These players realistically see their moves to SL as holding moves before getting them back into NRL. As such they know that they can walk out of their contracts and in most instances an NRL club will bail them out. That doesn't make the practice right or excusable but it does expose the obvious and widening gap between NRL and SL, which most SL fans seem somewhat blind to. Every year we hear of SL coaches saying that they will scrutinise their Aussie imports more closely for "mental toughness", "commitment" etc. but this is of course just tough talk to pacify the fans. On the one hand these things are impossible to assess (every player is going to tell you they'll honour their contract and that applies equally to homegrown players) and on the other hand if a Segeyaro, Sandow etc. becomes available - even temporarily and in dubious circumstances - then as Farmduck says the top SL clubs will fall over themselves to sign them regardless because they are better than most of the players in SL.

 

Ignoring the wider issue is pointless. SL has major issues attracting top Aussie and Kiwi players and instead simply gets the cast-offs/"bad boys". That ultimately is SL's problem. Bleating about the odd individual and taking the moral high ground is not going to reinvigorate SL. The only way to do this is to raise standards. The only way to raise standards is to begin a long overdue radical restructuring of our elite level.

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These players realistically see their moves to SL as holding moves before getting them back into NRL. As such they know that they can walk out of their contracts and in most instances an NRL club will bail them out. That doesn't make the practice right or excusable but it does expose the obvious and widening gap between NRL and SL, which most SL fans seem somewhat blind to. Every year we hear of SL coaches saying that they will scrutinise their Aussie imports more closely for "mental toughness", "commitment" etc. but this is of course just tough talk to pacify the fans. On the one hand these things are impossible to assess (every player is going to tell you they'll honour their contract and that applies equally to homegrown players) and on the other hand if a Segeyaro, Sandow etc. becomes available - even temporarily and in dubious circumstances - then as Farmduck says the top SL clubs will fall over themselves to sign them regardless because they are better than most of the players in SL.

 

Ignoring the wider issue is pointless. SL has major issues attracting top Aussie and Kiwi players and instead simply gets the cast-offs/"bad boys". That ultimately is SL's problem. Bleating about the odd individual and taking the moral high ground is not going to reinvigorate SL. The only way to do this is to raise standards. The only way to raise standards is to begin a long overdue radical restructuring of our elite level.

I think that's a fair summery of the situation unfortunately.

I'm very much anti mergers because they just do not work but it's hard to disagree that massive change is needed in English RL to start bridging the gap.

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So let's say Billy Slater comes back fit, his shoulder holds up and he takes back the No 1 jersey. So Cam Munster switches to stand off (ok five-eighth).


Sounds logical.


 Storm look likely to give Munster first go at claiming the 6 shirt.


He's good and has plenty of skills and toughness.


Can he do what Greg Inglis couldn't?


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Wests Tigers are currently down on the NSW South Coast at a week-long training camp.
 Players have been taking part in plenty of weights, cardio and field sessions.
They were even put through their paces in a biathlon and then some mountain runs.

I saw how they all greeted some local young schoolchildren who turned up at their training session.

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So let's say Billy Slater comes back fit, his shoulder holds up and he takes back the No 1 jersey. So Cam Munster switches to stand off (ok five-eighth).

Sounds logical.

 Storm look likely to give Munster first go at claiming the 6 shirt.

He's good and has plenty of skills and toughness.

Can he do what Greg Inglis couldn't?

 

GI won MOM in a winning GF playing at 6. What exactly couldn't he do?

 

Wests Tigers are currently down on the NSW South Coast at a week-long training camp.

 Players have been taking part in plenty of weights, cardio and field sessions.

They were even put through their paces in a biathlon and then some mountain runs.

I saw how they all greeted some local young schoolchildren who turned up at their training session.

Are you down the South Coast?

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Not downing Greg Inglis' abilities.

His preferred position doesn't appear to be 5/8 despite being given that role for club reasons...

 

Greg Inglis has declared himself South Sydney’s starting fullback for the 2017 NRL season and insists his body is more than able to stand up to the rigours of the role.

Inglis started and finished last year in the No. 1 shirt but a mid-season decision by Michael Maguire to switch him to five-eighth then centre led to speculation it was a move designed to prolong his career due to his struggles with a persistent knee problem.

Moving the Queensland superstar didn’t have the desired effect on the field as the Rabbitohs slumped to five successive losses and missed out on the finals for the first time since 2011.

A return to his favoured position sparked Souths to wins in their last four matches and Inglis said playing at fullback was a factor in his decision to re- sign with the club.

Will Munster be happy to move to 5/8 in the long run or is it just to fit in with Storm's needs?

Don't want the bloke getting unsettled.

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Queensland have announced their Emerging squad. They'll meet up together in January:

 

QAS Emerging Origin Squad:
Jayson Bukuya (Cronulla Sharks) 
Dale Copley (Sydney Roosters) 
Kyle Feldt (NQ Cowboys) 
Tim Glasby (Melbourne Storm) 
Jake Granville (NQ Cowboys) 
Coen Hess (NQ Cowboys) 
Valentine Holmes (Cronulla Sharks) 
Ben Hunt (Brisbane Broncos) 
Felise Kaufusi (Melbourne Storm) 
Edrick Lee (Canberra Raiders) 
Ethan Lowe (NQ Cowboys) 
Nene Macdonald (St George Illawarra Dragons) 
Anthony Milford (Brisbane Broncos) 
Cameron Munster (Melbourne Storm) 
Moses Mybe (Canterbury Bulldogs) 
Dylan Napa (Sydney Roosters) 
Lloyd Perrett (Canterbury Bulldogs) 
Ashley Taylor (Gold Coast Titans) 
Christian Welch (Melbourne Storm) 
Jarrod Wallace (Gold Coast Titans)

 

Hope none of them blot their copybook in the meantime.

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