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Labour leadership contest

Which of the candidates would make you more likely to vote Labour if they win the leadership?  

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  1. 1. Which of the candidates would make you more likely to vote Labour if they win the leadership?

    • Andy Burnham
      13
    • Yvette Cooper
      13
    • Jeremy Corbyn
      14
    • Liz Kendall
      7
    • I would never vote Labour
      8
  2. 2. Did you vote Labour in the 2015 General Election?

    • Yes
      26
    • No
      29
  3. 3. Do you have a vote in the Labour leadership election?

    • Yes
      11
    • No
      44
  4. 4. Who would you vote for in the Labour leadership election?

    • Andy Burnham
      15
    • Yvette Cooper
      13
    • Jeremy Corbyn
      18
    • Liz Kendall
      9


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"Of course I love my country.... I just have lots of friends who like to murder its citizens"

 

Who are those friends? If you know, don't you think you ought to report them to the police? :rolleyes:


"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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Who are those friends? If you know, don't you think you ought to report them to the police? :rolleyes:

I'm sure the police are already well aware of Jihad Jezza's friends ;)


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I'm sure the police are already well aware of Jihad Jezza's friends ;)

 

 

In which case everything will be sorted and you've no need to fret


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I thought it was quite grown up and also an attempt at nullifying DC at PMQs. As PM he gets the final say , he is also quick witted JC has pulled him out of his area of strength. Neither really won but the questions were good and why shouldn't the questions be from the general public ? Those in the house are our representatives .

 

Indeed. I think the efficacy of PMQs in holding the executive to account has been vastly exaggerated, questions are rarely answered and haven't been since the inception of Commons TV coverage, it's politics as sport and the electorate are generally unimpressed by the whole thing. Also remember that the sustained questioning with 6 questions for the Leader of the Opposition within half an hour is a relatively new format. It used to be 2 x 15 minute slots on a Tuesday and Thursday IIRC with just one question and a supplementary for the LotO . You are right to say that DC is taken out of his comfort zone for the reason you state. Moreover, whereas he was previously being dismissive of opposition questions, which few will care too much about, now he's showing contempt towards Rose of Reading, Eddie of Edinburgh and Lucy from Leeds. That said, I think Corbyn will mix it up week by week adding uncertainty to the equation. Certainly, the job of the team of SPADs who write his briefing notes for PMQs has got considerably more complex. I expect to see DC look increasingly puce by the week!

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PMQs tends to dent the image of the House of Commons, where genuine discussion and debate does happen at other times of the week. Every now and then, some new leader makes noises about improving the general behaviour at the event, but it never lasts.


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Indeed. I think the efficacy of PMQs in holding the executive to account has been vastly exaggerated, questions are rarely answered and haven't been since the inception of Commons TV coverage, it's politics as sport and the electorate are generally unimpressed by the whole thing. Also remember that the sustained questioning with 6 questions for the Leader of the Opposition within half an hour is a relatively new format. It used to be 2 x 15 minute slots on a Tuesday and Thursday IIRC with just one question and a supplementary for the LotO . You are right to say that DC is taken out of his comfort zone for the reason you state. Moreover, whereas he was previously being dismissive of opposition questions, which few will care too much about, now he's showing contempt towards Rose of Reading, Eddie of Edinburgh and Lucy from Leeds. That said, I think Corbyn will mix it up week by week adding uncertainty to the equation. Certainly, the job of the team of SPADs who write his briefing notes for PMQs has got considerably more complex. I expect to see DC look increasingly puce by the week!

 

 I expect to see DC look increasingly puce by the week!

 

You'll be disappointed then. In addition,  you are wrong also about this: "now he's showing contempt towards Rose of Reading, Eddie of Edinburgh and Lucy from Leeds."


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 I expect to see DC look increasingly puce by the week!

 

You'll be disappointed then.

 

You could be right, it'd be difficult to achieve a more intense shade than he displayed yesterday. Maybe, he'll just intensify his Flashman act.

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 I expect to see DC look increasingly puce by the week!

 

You'll be disappointed then. In addition,  you are wrong also about this: "now he's showing contempt towards Rose of Reading, Eddie of Edinburgh and Lucy from Leeds."

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I think he will need to tweak his approach.  At the moment a single question per issue allows Cameron to trot out the party line.  He needs to use at least one follow up.


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Old JC's getting some serious stick on Facebook

Sorry I cant do photos/captions but maybe some clever people can. Especially this page I am British and Proud

Is it a BNP site?

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Old JC's getting some serious stick on Facebook

Sorry I cant do photos/captions but maybe some clever people can. Especially this page I am British and Proud

Is it a BNP site?

Can't say I've seen much on my FB timeline, but I suspect you and I keep very different company :P

And yes, that looks suspiciously like a Britain First off shoot. (anyone posting stuff from Britain First, BNP etc on my timeline is instantly un-friended)


"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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Can't say I've seen much on my FB timeline, but I suspect you and I keep very different company :P

And yes, that looks suspiciously like a Britain First off shoot. (anyone posting stuff from Britain First, BNP etc on my timeline is instantly un-friended)

Its "I am British and Proud" FB page.

Its on a couple of ex-servicesmens friends of mine timeline/thingy/whatever you call it

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One thing that cant be denied is a tweet I've just seen from Martin McGuiness to JC saying Heartiest congratulations to "our friend".

The tory press don't even have to try to discredit him, his "friends" do it for him

You mean this Martin McGuinness?

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Friend of the Queen?


"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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(anyone posting stuff from Britain First, BNP etc on my timeline is instantly un-friended)

My Facebook feed is so much more civilised since I purged the numpies that kept posting that stuff.


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You mean this Martin McGuinness?

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Friend of the Queen?

Do you seriously think he is a friend of our monarch or our future King?

She's probably shook hands with many evil brutal leaders/ dictators over the years, it don't mean their her friends

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Do you seriously think he is a friend of our monarch or our future King?

She's probably shook hands with many evil brutal leaders/ dictators over the years, it don't mean their her friends

These two men became decent friends, especially after Paisley left power.

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Do you seriously think he is a friend of our monarch or our future King?

She's probably shook hands with many evil brutal leaders/ dictators over the years, it don't mean their her friends

 

If brave men and women can forgive those who have tried to kill them or their families, I think anyone can forgive someone. That picture of the queen is a perfect example. You may not have to like it but if those people change their views or understand that violence is not the way forward, then you have to do everything you possible can to ensure they remain that way to drive for peace.

 

Now I fundamentally do not agree with Corbyn and the way he has in the past reached to organisations like Hezbollah, Hamas et al as those organisations are not interested in peace until they achieve their aims through death and destruction. I would however, talk to them if they renounced violence.

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Corbyn has appointed Kerry McCarthy as the new Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.  She's a vegan and vice-president of the League Against Cruel Sports.

 

The guy's an idiot.


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Do you seriously think he is a friend of our monarch or our future King?

She's probably shook hands with many evil brutal leaders/ dictators over the years, it don't mean their her friends

She does these things purely symbolically (but still importantly) to continue the the cause of peace. The politicians do these things to orchestrate that process of peace in the first place. What's the difference?


"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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Let's hope he is. Greatest PM of the 20th century, bar none.

I meant to add, it's very early days yet. Only time will tell if he ends up an Attlee or a Foot.


"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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Corbyn has appointed Kerry McCarthy as the new Shadow Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.  She's a vegan and vice-president of the League Against Cruel Sports.

 

The guy's an idiot.

I probably shouldn't ask but, go on then, why does that make him an idiot?


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