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keith galloway signs for leeds on 3 year deal

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seems the same sort of comments we heard about cuthbertson  so no worries on that score .

 

anyone noticed how the aussies always talk down players leaving there precious league but seem to have no problem with them when they return  for instance sam moa and pat Richards just for 2 examples

 

I'm a Wests Tigers fan and I'm glad he's going. Our salary cap is a complete mess, with back-ended deals, players still getting paid at other clubs, etc. Last week we released Te Maire Martin, the Kiwis U20s half. We had an option on him for another year at minimum wage and we still had to let him go.

 

In the last few years we've won the NSW U18s comp and the NYC 20s but we would have had to let most of those kids go if we didn't get rid of some players.\

 

And, trust me, Pat Richards this year is only still in NRL because of our injury toll. Even his kicking has gone downhill.

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Here are some comments from the Wests Tigers forum, in reaction to the news of Keith's departure:

 

Tottie: Gone, and thank god

 

smithy: I am happy about this but to his credit keith has been a great servant of this club but stayed a season too long.the trouble is we have no money to replace him with anyone.watch the club re-sign buchanan.

 

Tygr:  Hooray!

 

GNR4LIFE:  Obviously we had to clear the decks for our blockbuster signing of Jack Littlejohn.

 

kafta:  WOW there is a god icon_mrgreen.gif

 

Bengal Tiger:  Fantastic!!!!!!

 

Tygr:  I respect what he has done for the club and i thank him for his years of service. But i'm still glad he is moving on. He has been a plodder for far too long.

 

tigerbalm:  He may be the nicest bloke on the planet.

For 80 minutes a week, 12 rounds a year ( the average he probably plays) I see him as a third rate hack that takes opportunity from a kid that wants to put in.

Don't confuse longevity with legend. He is a journeyman that journeyed about 4-5 years too long. He only got those extra years because WT have such low standards.

Good luck big red, you won't be missed.

 

underdog:  Hope he scored the same Holiday Arrangements as part of his contract over their he had over here. I always knew it was a Tigers season if Keefy was on a 4-8 week sabbatical somewhere in there. icon_e_biggrin.gif

Smart business decision, but he's been a servant to our club, no doubt.

is there any good comments?

 Soon we will be dancing the fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

JAMIE PEACOCK

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leeds are losing 2 props this year and another is going to day Yates to Wakey so the club had to bring in someone


 Soon we will be dancing the fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

JAMIE PEACOCK

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It'll be a lot easier for him to get to Celtic matches. On his twitter he said he'll ban his son from reading this book:

 

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I thought you were referring to George Galloway he is a Celtic fan too,although I think "George " will be his nickname

 Soon we will be dancing the fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.

JAMIE PEACOCK

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is there any good comments?

http://www.weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24892

 

 

 

anyone noticed how the aussies always talk down players leaving there precious league but seem to have no problem with them when they return  for instance sam moa and pat Richards just for 2 examples

 

For every Sam Moa there is a Chris Hicks or a Chris Walker, Keith Lulia, Scott Dureau, etc. Players who were only in first grade during severe injury crises.

 

Other cases, like Greg Bird and Jamie Lyon, were different because they had to go to SL for different reasons.

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I thought you were referring to George Galloway he is a Celtic fan too,although I think "George " will be his nickname

 

We call him "Sauce," as in a big red, Heinz Big Red Tomato Sauce.

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A few years ago, I'd have been excited to see Galloway sign for a SL club, but he hasn't looked at his best in the more recent times I've watched him.


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I think the most worrying thing for Leeds supporters will be if Galloway can stay fit.

Over the last 3 or 4 years he seems to have been out injured as much as he had played. If he can steer clear of injuries I think he is well suited to the English game, much as Cuthberson has proven.

Edited by Railway End

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 Stuart Lancaster - England Rugby Union Head Coach - October 2013

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Galloway........hasn't looked at his best in the more recent times I've watched him.

 

 

 

 he seems to have been out injured as much as he had played

 

 

this is a terrible signing

 

 

He has been ######.

 

Not so good then?  :tongue:

 

I think a couple of years ago Leeds lined up Jordan Baldwinson for prop and the lads hopes were so high he skipped off to the NRL but found it way too much and can be found in the middle of the championship.

 

At the same time Andy Yates a reject from St.Helens was playing at Hunslet and Leeds thought this lad had something in him, which he clearly hasn't as he's signed for Wakefield ;)

 

The only other lad with potential was/is Robbie Mulhearn I think as stated above, a young lad still learning.

 

I disagree entirely with Matt Santos that Leeds have not been planning for players leaving, what we see here is that young players of the right quality are not there.

 

As a club Leeds were pioneers of promoting Junior ARL, scouting the best lads, and bringing them on. At half back there is a problem too hence Leeds had a dig for Brierly and at the same time asked Sam Barlow to sign on at Prop. 

 

A top club with a top junior development system having to chase reserve grade Aussies and championship players, who'd have thunk it?

Edited by The Parksider

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Yes it's definitely not a case of Leeds failing to plan but the players identified, Singleton aside (and then only to a degree) haven't come through as hoped. Whether that is due to poor management or just the inevitable hit and miss nature of junior development is hard to say although I would note that Brian McDermott finds it hard to give decent game time to props he doesn't have total faith in which in turn means they can't develop. Hard to say if it's chicken or egg but Andy Yates coming on with 10 minutes left every time he made the 17 did no one any good.

The one big mistake Leeds did make is allowing Amor to leave. As for Galloway, we'll have to wait and see. Hetherington is certainly not infallible-Mitch Achurch being his most recent disappointing import.

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As a club Leeds were pioneers of promoting Junior ARL, scouting the best lads, and bringing them on. At half back there is a problem too hence Leeds had a dig for Brierly and at the same time asked Sam Barlow to sign on at Prop. 

 

A top club with a top junior development system having to chase reserve grade Aussies and championship players, who'd have thunk it?

 

It isn't that surprising that even clubs who make the effort won't always be able to grow their entire squad. My local club, Penrith, has the biggest junior league in NSW and produces a lot of NRL players but their 20s squad still has kids from Qld, NZ, Fiji and PNG. This year they only have 8 players in their NRL squad who come from the Penrith area.

 

Canberra won the first NYC GF in 2008 and half of those players never even reached first grade.

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Cracking signing in my eyes (and im a bulls fan!)

 

Getting fed up of people slating every club that signs an aussie, yet expect clubs to put 19/20 year old kids as frontline super league prop forwards! People have to get a grip of reality that these lads bodies need to be nurtured and wont probably be ready for week in week out rigours of super league until probably around 23/24, there is a reason prop forwards reach their peak 28-32. Look at Sam Burgess frontline since 17 and has admitted he needed his body to have the rest in union!

 

Its becoming so monotonous on here reading fans of clubs slating others for not promoting kids and signing imports yet when their club does it they make every excuse under the sun as to why its acceptable! And its always the same names on here spouting the drivel

 

How anyone can challenge leeds for signing imports is beyond me they have less imports than a lot of clubs and promote more than enough juniors!

Edited by thepimp007

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Of course. NRL clubs can only sign players 16 and over. The local specialist-RL high schools in my area have a finite number of places available for NRL scholarship students. If a student doesn't make the cut at 16 he might try another club or wait until next year.

 

When they get to the U18s rep stage, a few more will be cut then when the contracts for the NYC U20s come, each club is limited to $400,000 (plus virtually unlimited education expenses) so more will miss out at their preferred club and may have to try one of the clubs with limited junior pool - Roosters, Manly, Cronulla, Canberra, Storm.

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Parramatta have a long history of letting juniors leave that have kicked on at other Clubs and in return signing the biggest disasters from other Clubs at top dollar.

 

If there was an award for the worst run team with what was the biggest support some years ago then Parramatta would have won Gold, season after season.

Edited by Allora

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How big are the NYC U20s squads?

 

 

Complicated. Somewhere between 20-35. Penrith has 20 but some of their NRL players and second-tier contracts are still eligible for the 20s. They also have some of the big RL high schools available to draw on for casual injury cover.

 

 

 

 Do the virtually unlimited education expenses include University places ?

 

These figures are from 2013 or 2014

 

HOLDEN CUP: PAYMENTS FOR THE TOP 20

$250,000 - Basic payments for the Top 20 players.

What Holden Cup players can earn outside the salary cap:

$31,500 - School fees allowance per club.

Unlimited - Approved living away from home allowance (up to $8,190 per annum per Holden Cup qualified player outside the Top 25).

Unlimited - Tertiary education, approved traineeships, apprenticeship allowances, medical insurance costs, relocation/temporary accommodation costs.

Payments for Holden Cup players outside the top 20

$50,000 - Cap for all players outside of the Top 20 who compete in Holden Cup.

Please note: Players outside the Top 25 who do not compete in the NRL or Holden Cup, are NOT subject to the Salary Cap.

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