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1 hour ago, Saintslass said:

A personal insult is always an indication that the person making the insult has lost the argument.

Not an insult, an observation. You have had what Lammey said explained to you, but you continue to demonstrate that you can't or won't understand what he said.

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36 minutes ago, Griff9of13 said:

Not an insult, an observation. You have had what Lammey said explained to you, but you continue to demonstrate that you can't or won't understand what he said.

When your only argument is pot, kettle and black life's a bit hard.

 


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1 hour ago, Griff9of13 said:

Not an insult, an observation. You have had what Lammey said explained to you, but you continue to demonstrate that you can't or won't understand what he said.

I don't need to have what Lammy said explained to me because I heard him myself.  I watch Marr. Interpretations of what he said appear to vary.  However, you chose to direct a personal insult my way.  Not the first time and no doubt it won't be the last either.

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6 hours ago, Saintslass said:

A personal insult is always an indication

There was no insult Saintslass.

But back to the thread

"For many of its MPs and the overwhelming majority of members, Labour’s natural home is in what Corbyn’s team waspishly call Remoania. But the Labour leader is a longtime Eurosceptic and he made clear in the early hours of the morning after the Brexit vote that his party would honour the result.

There are strategic imperatives behind the Labour leadership’s hesitation about a referendum, too. A cautionary presentation to the shadow cabinet recently suggested that, as a result of the shift towards supporting a fresh poll, Labour would suffer in May’s local elections, many of which are being held in leave-leaning areas. Projecting the same analysis on to a national scale suggested the party could struggle to win a majority at a future general election.

More broadly, many of those around Corbyn believe their party would benefit if the political debate moved on beyond Brexit, to issues on which Labour is less divided. “We want to get to where it’s the many versus the few, and that’s what politics is again – but we know that to get there we need to keep the coalition together,” said one senior party strategist."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/17/why-labours-leader-has-to-perform-a-brexit-balancing-act

I put this on here not in the hope of any real discussion but more so those who do read stuff will understand better.


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Looks like the outraged ex police officer who took the pic of Abbot retired early due to his strong opinions...


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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24 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Looks like the outraged ex police officer who took the pic of Abbot retired early due to his strong opinions...

Wasn't this obvious from the start? You'd have to be a special type of weirdo to be legitimately upset by someone drinking a tinned mojito on a train.

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Just now, Evil Homer said:

Wasn't this obvious from the start? You'd have to be a special type of weirdo to be legitimately upset by someone drinking a tinned mojito on a train.

I doubt they were upset by it.  More like they enjoyed catching her out given that she's an MP and therefore is supposed to obey the law and all that.

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Also in Abbott's mind she's the next Home Secretary, In charge of Law and Order.

About Churchill, if he felt so strongly on a United Europe why did he turn down the invitation to join the European Coal and Steel Co. which started around 1951-2 when he was PM. Atlee turned down the invitation as well when he was PM.

Boy how we suffered by not joining and being in the Common Market. Being outside the CM free trade area cost us very dear. Now we are repeating the mistake!

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Personally, I think obsessive strange men secretly taking photographs of women on trains is much more worrying than someone taking a little drink from a can on the way home from work.

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11 hours ago, Evil Homer said:

Wasn't this obvious from the start? You'd have to be a special type of weirdo to be legitimately upset by someone drinking a tinned mojito on a train.

The Venn diagram of people crowing about how she's breaking the law (and all laws are laws so it's the law) and people who think speed cameras are just there as cash cows is basically a circle.

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1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

people crowing about how she's breaking the law

While being busy saying "There's nothing illegal in what they've done!" over all sorts of questionabl activities.

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Tories: lie, cheat, fraud. Say and do various racist stuff; persecute the weakest in society, reward bankers, corporations etc and themselves with tax breaks while cutting services and saying “we’re all in it together,” dress up as Nazis, etc...

Press: lol what do you expect? Tories gonna Tory.

Labour: Drinks mojito on tube train

Press: OMG DID YOU SEE THAT EVERYBODY? This woman needs to GO!

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1 hour ago, Phil said:

Tories: lie, cheat, fraud. Say and do various racist stuff; persecute the weakest in society, reward bankers, corporations etc and themselves with tax breaks while cutting services and saying “we’re all in it together,” dress up as Nazis, etc...

Press: lol what do you expect? Tories gonna Tory.

Labour: Drinks mojito on tube train

Press: OMG DID YOU SEE THAT EVERYBODY? This woman needs to GO!

You'd think RL folk, of all people, would instantly recognise and react against bias wouldn't you?

Maybe they're the same people who think TGG shouldn't be included and doesn't even deserve to have a media presence?

I am interested in this push for JC and Labour to lead in the call for a 2nd vote because it just looks like a minefield that will destroy Labour's hopes to me.

 

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5 hours ago, gingerjon said:

The Venn diagram of people crowing about how she's breaking the law (and all laws are laws so it's the law) and people who think speed cameras are just there as cash cows is basically a circle.

Are you including Fiona Onasanya, Chris Hune, in this or is it maybe you worth checking your working out? 😀😀😀


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"The 2005 video was uncovered by journalist Iggy Ostanin, who passed it to The Sun on Sunday. "

There's no such thing as coincidence Alfred Hitchcock said so.

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7 minutes ago, JohnM said:

He’d be wrong about that local police force. They were aligned to the Mahdi Army; it wouldn’t have ended well for those two blokes if they’d be handed over to Al-Sadr.

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3 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said:

He’d be wrong about that local police force. They were aligned to the Mahdi Army; it wouldn’t have ended well for those two blokes if they’d be handed over to Al-Sadr.

I'm sure you're right about that.


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22 minutes ago, Oxford said:

Iggy Ostanin

But who would have thought JC, let alone the Labour Party, would have had a stalker?

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21 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Looks like the outraged ex police officer who took the pic of Abbot retired early due to his strong opinions...

Did he take the photo?

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59 minutes ago, Northern Eel said:

Did he take the photo?

From what i read, yes.


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Former Labour activists flocking to run for Change UK

So not Labour activists at the moment then, so they're defectiong from unattached?

 

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2 hours ago, Northern Eel said:

Not read anything other than suggesting he was asked to comment. I'd be interested to see that, cheers.

The story seems to of changed.  He was a witness in the first edit.  He now appears randomly as someone who comments.  


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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