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i could sell you London Bridge.

It's a matter of fact that the figures have not yet been released. 

 

These figures always change anyway.  They may indicate some negative this month only to be revised in a few months' time.

 

Personally I want our economy to be doing well. I don't understand the left's delight at any sign that it might not be doing as well as we had hoped.  It's perverse.

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It's a matter of fact that the figures have not yet been released.

These figures always change anyway. They may indicate some negative this month only to be revised in a few months' time.

Personally I want our economy to be doing well. I don't understand the left's delight at any sign that it might not be doing as well as we had hoped. It's perverse.

An economy will always do well when wages are being kept low through immigration and the taking away of workers rights. Oh and don't forget the sweetheart tax deals the companies who employ these immigrants and those on minimum wage. Yeah, it going great for the 1%.

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Apparently many of the rumours about the EU, that made the British suspicious -  straight bananas and cucumbers, vegelate (British chocolate) smaller condoms, banning British sausages etc. were started by Boris Johnson when he was working as European correspondent of the Telegraph.  How can anyone believe a word this man says?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/26/boris-johnson-latest-euro-myth-brexit

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“Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.”

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Apparently many of the rumours about the EU, that made the British suspicious -  straight bananas and cucumbers, vegelate (British chocolate) smaller condoms, banning British sausages etc. were started by Boris Johnson when he was working as European correspondent of the Telegraph.  How can anyone believe a word this man says?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/26/boris-johnson-latest-euro-myth-brexit

 

So he's been gearing up for this moment for years!  :sleep:

 

How can anyone believe him? I can't.

 

He looks like a scruffy tw@ (he makes Jeremy Corbyn look like a Saville Row model), he sounds like a posh tw@ (just how many plums does he have in his gob?), ergo he is a prize genital.


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So he's been gearing up for this moment for years! :sleep:

How can anyone believe him? I can't.

He looks like a scruffy tw@ (he makes Jeremy Corbyn look like a Saville Row model), he sounds like a posh tw@ (just how many plums does he have in his gob?), ergo he is a prize genital.

David Cameron always sounds like he is trying not to accidentally spit out some chewing gum when he talks. Just goes to show what a thick 2wat he is despite his education.

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David Cameron always sounds like he is trying not to accidentally spit out some chewing gum when he talks. Just goes to show what a thick 2wat he is despite his education.

Gosh.  So how a person speaks is indicative of their intelligence now is it?  Nothing like a bit of prejudice to make life interesting eh?

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Apparently many of the rumours about the EU, that made the British suspicious -  straight bananas and cucumbers, vegelate (British chocolate) smaller condoms, banning British sausages etc. were started by Boris Johnson when he was working as European correspondent of the Telegraph.  How can anyone believe a word this man says?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/26/boris-johnson-latest-euro-myth-brexit

However, the EU do actually plan to restrict the strength of kettles and toasters, have already restricted the strength of lawnmowers and vaccum cleaners, and propose to stick VAT on children's clothing. 

 

I don't think he made up the one about custard tarts.

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Heartless #### tories. my daughter has just undegone her regular Work Capability Assessment and these tossers at Maximus had the temerity to spend over an hour assesing her. but it gets worse. She has been told in writing that she will not now have to undergo another WCA for ten years. And, as if things couldn't get any worse, she has been awarded a PIP that has increased her income by £1500 a year.

The inconvenient truth, eh?


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Heartless #### tories. my daughter has just undegone her regular Work Capability Assessment and these tossers at Maximus had the temerity to spend over an hour assesing her. but it gets worse. She has been told in writing that she will not now have to undergo another WCA for ten years. And, as if things couldn't get any worse, she has been awarded a PIP that has increased her income by £1500 a year.

The inconvenient truth, eh?

Yes. One experience means nothing bad has happened elsewhere.


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Heartless #### tories. my daughter has just undegone her regular Work Capability Assessment and these tossers at Maximus had the temerity to spend over an hour assesing her. but it gets worse. She has been told in writing that she will not now have to undergo another WCA for ten years. And, as if things couldn't get any worse, she has been awarded a PIP that has increased her income by £1500 a year.

The inconvenient truth, eh?

I'm genuinely glad it has gone well for your daughter. Some things are above political point scoring.


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Discounted starter homes plan 'will fail to help most buyers'

 

"But the Local Government Association (LGA) said analysis by the estate agent Savills showed that discounted starter home prices are out of reach for all people in need of affordable housing in 220 council areas and for more than 90% of such people in a further 80 council areas."

 

Good plan. 


"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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Yes. One experience means nothing bad has happened elsewhere.

 

I think the point is that we only ever hear about the bad experiences. You'll see press reports about a person treated badly by the DWP system but you won't see a balancing one showing someone's good experience. Given the hundreds of thousands of cases each year (maybe more) then its inevitable that the system will break down now and again and somebody will have a bad experience. That's something that happens under governments of every type.


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Osborne has said to expect cuts and given that it's his budget I'm prepared to assume he has some foreknowledge of what's coming.

 

We've exhausted all efficiency savings at every level of government from parish council up.  We're now at the deciding which services are expendable and which aren't stage.

 

The usual trick is to start briefing heavily at this stage that x is going to be cut (see the police service in autumn), and then triumphantly declare that it isn't on budget day. While sneaking in about 500 other aggressive cuts into the background briefing.


I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.

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More revelations on C4 regarding undeclared expenses at elections.

Even more on this: The Tories systematically cheat in elections, says their own campaign manager

Oddly ignored by all mainstream media with the exception of C4 News.

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"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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I think the point is that we only ever hear about the bad experiences. You'll see press reports about a person treated badly by the DWP system but you won't see a balancing one showing someone's good experience. Given the hundreds of thousands of cases each year (maybe more) then its inevitable that the system will break down now and again and somebody will have a bad experience. That's something that happens under governments of every type.

You mean in the same way you only hear about the small number of actual benefit cheats and nothing about the huge number who are found not the be cheating.


“Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.”

Clement Attlee.

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Do you think there will be less migrants trying to get in to the UK if we pull out of the EU? Ha Ha Ha Ha ha ha .....ha

No. In fact if we pull out of the EU there will be no way of asking France, Belgium, or any of our neighbours to hold them back, and nowhere to deport them to, because they will not have them back, legally.


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Discounted starter homes plan 'will fail to help most buyers'

 

"But the Local Government Association (LGA) said analysis by the estate agent Savills showed that discounted starter home prices are out of reach for all people in need of affordable housing in 220 council areas and for more than 90% of such people in a further 80 council areas."

 

Good plan. 

 

If you are very wealthy and have a property portfolio, then you benefit from high house prices.  The only way to decrease property values is to provide lots of high quality homes.  

 

People generally spend as much as they can afford on their home, so enforcing high standards would not increase prices much, but would lower the cost of the poor quality housing left behind.  However, this would cause a drop in some existing housing costs and would not benefit the very wealthy.

 

On the other hand, there is a need for people to live in homes.

 

The solution is to provide lots and lots of poor quality homes, that will preserve the price of existing property.


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http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/this-former-tory-cabinet-minister-wont-say-who-funded-ps1800?utm_term=.mmlDP4QMx#.vt2LVWgEn

 

"Parliamentary rules require MPs to disclose when they accept cash, travel, accommodation, or hospitality above a certain value. By disclosing that his own think tank funded these trips, Paterson satisfied the letter of these rules – but because UK 2020 does not in turn disclose its own funders, it means the ultimate source of the contributions remains secret."


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Tory MPs vote for ESA disability benefit cuts AGAIN despite pleas from their own side

Peers have already voted twice against Iain Duncan Smith's bid to cut Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) by £30 a week.

Now Labour sources fear their options are running out after ministers attached "financial privilege" to the cuts - meaning there are few ways to oppose them because they will save the Treasury £1.3billion.

Tories yet again subverting the democratic process. They really do hold democracy in contempt.

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"it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it."

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Tory MPs vote for ESA disability benefit cuts AGAIN despite pleas from their own side

Peers have already voted twice against Iain Duncan Smith's bid to cut Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) by £30 a week.

Now Labour sources fear their options are running out after ministers attached "financial privilege" to the cuts - meaning there are few ways to oppose them because they will save the Treasury £1.3billion.

Tories yet again subverting the democratic process. They really do hold democracy in contempt.

The democratic process whereby they are overruled by our unelected "betters"?  The whole of parliament holds our democratic process in contempt, because it is contemptible.  If Labour hadn't held the Lords in contempt you'd still have Hunting with dogs legal.

 

By all means be disgusted with the policy, but ensure that you always have the same sense of outrage when the Lords are overruled on a policy you agree with.

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The democratic process whereby they are overruled by our unelected "betters"?  The whole of parliament holds our democratic process in contempt, because it is contemptible.  If Labour hadn't held the Lords in contempt you'd still have Hunting with dogs legal.

 

By all means be disgusted with the policy, but ensure that you always have the same sense of outrage when the Lords are overruled on a policy you agree with.

The difference being of course that in the past the Lords was packed with unelected Tories.  If the (Tory) government were having difficulty getting an unpopular (or plain wrong as in this case) policy through the Lords they'd call up the hereditaries  to force it through. When in opposition they'd do the same to try and block any Labour legislation they didn't like (as they did with the introduction of the NHS in the 1940's.)   They did this with the disastrous poll tax.  As for hunting with dogs there is a huge majority in the country against this practise, for the Lords to block it would have been a travesty of the democratic process.


“Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.”

Clement Attlee.

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The difference being of course that in the past the Lords was packed with unelected Tories.  If the (Tory) government were having difficulty getting an unpopular (or plain wrong as in this case) policy through the Lords they'd call up the hereditaries  to force it through. When in opposition they'd do the same to try and block any Labour legislation they didn't like (as they did with the introduction of the NHS in the 1940's.)   They did this with the disastrous poll tax.  As for hunting with dogs there is a huge majority in the country against this practise, for the Lords to block it would have been a travesty of the democratic process.

I think the huge majority couldn't give a either way tbh

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