Jasper Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Google commits to £1bn UK investment plan and creation of 3000 jobs - a decision made after Brexit. UK inflation rate falls to 0.9% in October, proving economists wrong again. Both items on BBC news website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff9of13 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Google commits to £1bn UK investment plan and creation of 3000 jobs - a decision made after Brexit. UK inflation rate falls to 0.9% in October, proving economists wrong again. Both items on BBC news website. We've left already? Wow, when did that happen? "it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Boris moves to reassure us that there is a clear plan. In a Czech newspaper. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/15/britain-probably-leaving-eu-customs-union-says-boris-johnson I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowes Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Boris moves to reassure us that there is a clear plan. In a Czech newspaper. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/15/britain-probably-leaving-eu-customs-union-says-boris-johnson Leaving the customs union is inevitably as staying in would forbid us from freely trading with the rest of the world. Norway and Switzerland cope fine outside it. It's the single market that there are advantages of they just have to be weighed against the major disadvantage of freedom of movement rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Leaving the customs union is inevitably as staying in would forbid us from freely trading with the rest of the world. Norway and Switzerland cope fine outside it. It's the single market that there are advantages of they just have to be weighed against the major disadvantage of freedom of movement rules I confess, once I looked it up on Wikipedia, my reaction was the same: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Customs_Union It does not seem that controversial. "You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff9of13 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Leaving the customs union is inevitably as staying in would forbid us from freely trading with the rest of the world. Norway and Switzerland cope fine outside it. It's the single market that there are advantages of they just have to be weighed against the major disadvantage of freedom of movement rules Leaving the customs union would have a catastrophic practical effect. Hold ups at the channel ports are bad enough now without that overhead. "it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Leaving the customs union would have a catastrophic practical effect. Hold ups at the channel ports are bad enough now without that overhead. Staying in it would hardly be leaving the EU. It is a reasonable point, but, to my mind, this debate has already been had. It does show the potential issues stored up and why "Brexit means brexit" does not clarify everything "You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowes Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Leaving the customs union would have a catastrophic practical effect. Hold ups at the channel ports are bad enough now without that overhead. Staying in would be to commit us to only have free trade with a declining part of the world and build a wall (metaphorically speaking) to keep out trade with the rising stars of Asia. A very short term decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff9of13 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Staying in would be to commit us to only have free trade with a declining part of the world and build a wall (metaphorically speaking) to keep out trade with the rising stars of Asia. A very short term decision In your opinion, built on the premise that the EU would never consider trade agreements with other nations despite the fact that the EU has been actively engaged in trade negotiations with other nations. "it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 One positive coming from Brexit is that leeches such as Deloitte are being exposed for what they really are: parasites, takers, spongers. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-memo-no-plans-theresa-may-deloitte-attack-touting-for-business-a7418741.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff9of13 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Staying in it would hardly be leaving the EU. It is a reasonable point, but, to my mind, this debate has already been had. It does show the potential issues stored up and why "Brexit means brexit" does not clarify everything As we haven't a clue what leaving means other than the meaningless tortology "brexit means brexit" leaving could or couldn't mean leaving the customs union. Who knows. We can however foresee that given our natural bottleneck as an island coming out of the customs union will be a nightmare if we have to go back to physically checking every load passing between the UK and the EU. "it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 In your opinion, built on the premise that the EU would never consider trade agreements with other nations despite the fact that the EU has been actively engaged in trade negotiations with other nations. Must be a meaning of "active" not currently in the OED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Boris moves to reassure us that there is a clear plan. In a Czech newspaper. Boris needs poker lessons from the Leave Brains Trust. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowes Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 In your opinion, built on the premise that the EU would never consider trade agreements with other nations despite the fact that the EU has been actively engaged in trade negotiations with other nations. The EU are doing very badly at signing trade deals compared to what Switzerland have signed on their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 One positive coming from Brexit is that leeches such as Deloitte are being exposed for what they really are: parasites, takers, spongers. Connected at every level to the government. Which no government will change. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark S Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 It's great news about Google, however it is only going to be positive for London. Cant see this been of any help to the north at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 It's great news about Google, however it is only going to be positive for London. Cant see this been of any help to the north at all. It is a shame that investment like Google that shouldn't be dependent on specific area is still focused on London. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark S Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Google do have offices in Manchester and Leeds, the Manchester office supports the digital agencies in the north, the office in Leeds is a call centre. Leeds must be the capital of the U.K. for call centres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Leaving the customs union would have a catastrophic practical effect. Hold ups at the channel ports are bad enough now without that overhead. Quite. We had this discussion on an earlier thread where GJ, I think, pointed out that the old customs warehouses space at places like Dover have long since ceased to exist. Leaving the Customs Union might be 'uncontroversial' in view of an exciting new trading strategy, but in practice it would have catastrophic economic consequences for businesses in this country if mishandled. I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Quite. We had this discussion on an earlier thread where GJ, I think, pointed out that the old customs warehouses space at places like Dover have long since ceased to exist. I asked the question and it was answered by someone else. It was to do with the whole need to build more at (for example) Dover despite there actually being no room at all in Dover and, as answered, none of our other coastal ports being up to date enough. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 On the BBC News this morning - UK unemployment fell by 37,000 to 1.6 million in the three months to September, hitting an 11-year low. The jobless rate fell to 4.8% in the same period. The number of people in work went up by 49,000 in October, said the Office for National Statistics (ONS). The number of self-employed people increased by 213,000 to 4.79 million - 15.1% of all people in work. Average weekly earnings grew by 2.3% in the year to October including bonuses and by 2.4% excluding bonuses. The Bank of England and several prominent economists had forecast that unemployment was set to rise this quarter amid uncertainty over the Brexit vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I wonder if the respected and trusted experts on here can explain how the import process works at Felixstowe. Immingham. Heathrow etc for Chinese and Us imports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I wonder if the respected and trusted experts on here can explain how the import process works at Felixstowe. Immingham. Heathrow etc for Chinese and Us imports. Why don't you tell us? Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrek Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 On the BBC News this morning - UK unemployment fell by 37,000 to 1.6 million in the three months to September, hitting an 11-year low. The jobless rate fell to 4.8% in the same period. The number of people in work went up by 49,000 in October, said the Office for National Statistics (ONS). The number of self-employed people increased by 213,000 to 4.79 million - 15.1% of all people in work. Average weekly earnings grew by 2.3% in the year to October including bonuses and by 2.4% excluding bonuses. The Bank of England and several prominent economists had forecast that unemployment was set to rise this quarter amid uncertainty over the Brexit vote. And the number claiming unemployment benefits rose by 9800 the biggest rise since May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Sadler Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 And the number claiming unemployment benefits rose by 9800 the biggest rise since May. I knew someone would be able to turn good news into bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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