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  1. 1. Who is going to win the US Presidential Election

    • Trump (Republican)
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    • Don't care (English)


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Conway was trying to say that that everyone comes from somewhere else and that is exactly what Trump meant.  (no one actually believes it but that's the best spin she could come up with).  She ended up looking bad though.  


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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3 hours ago, Phil said:

Oh for god’s sake yes it it is, and if you can’t see that you need to take a long hard look at yourself 

No, you need to look at yourself, if you can't handle alternative points of view.

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1 hour ago, Trojan said:

Except of course this guy is talking ######.

Obama is the third-best job-creating president in U.S. history. His policies put 16 million people to work from the depths of the recession in December 2009 to the end of his term. That's because unemployment continued to rise even after the recession ended in July. It takes a few months of economic growth before businesses are confident enough to begin hiring again.

https://www.thebalance.com/what-has-obama-done-11-major-accomplishments-3306158

I've never criticised Obama's performance on the economy. He was dealt a bad hand and played it as well as he could.

As for the kid in the video, as he makes clear, he has ideological differences with the Democratic Party and doesn't want to be defined by his skin colour.

You may say he's talking ###### in saying that, but that seems very disrespectful.

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45 minutes ago, Martyn Sadler said:

No, you need to look at yourself, if you can't handle alternative points of view.

Ah but there’s the rub, through out my life I’ve looked at these “alternative points of view” most of which advocate the acceptance of a system where war, famine, poverty and racism are the norm.

You seem to be saying that all beliefs are equally valid, a statement so preposterous that I’ll just leave it hanging there. 

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2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Ah but there’s the rub, through out my life I’ve looked at these “alternative points of view” most of which advocate the acceptance of a system where war, famine, poverty and racism are the norm.

You seem to be saying that all beliefs are equally valid, a statement so preposterous that I’ll just leave it hanging there. 

I'm not aware of any societies that have eliminated some of the evils you cite.

And I'm not sure how on earth you can make your second statement. Of course all beliefs are not equally valid. Who could think that?

You're knocking down a straw man.

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9 minutes ago, Martyn Sadler said:

I'm not aware of any societies that have eliminated some of the evils you cite.

And I'm not sure how on earth you can make your second statement. Of course all beliefs are not equally valid. Who could think that?

You're knocking down a straw man.

Yeah ok, as someone already said I can’t put you on ignore but if I could...


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1 minute ago, Phil said:

Yeah ok, as someone already said I can’t put you on ignore but if I could...

I thought you were stronger than that.

Disappointing to see that you can't deal with alternative points of view.

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1 hour ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Conway was trying to say that that everyone comes from somewhere else and that is exactly what Trump meant.  (no one actually believes it but that's the best spin she could come up with).  She ended up looking bad though.  

Ihre Papiere, bitte. 

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9 hours ago, Martyn Sadler said:

I've never criticised Obama's performance on the economy. He was dealt a bad hand and played it as well as he could.

As for the kid in the video, as he makes clear, he has ideological differences with the Democratic Party and doesn't want to be defined by his skin colour.

You may say he's talking ###### in saying that, but that seems very disrespectful.

No you may not have criticised Obama, but the kid did


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1 hour ago, Trojan said:

No you may not have criticised Obama, but the kid did

But do you think a young man like that should be defined primarily by his skin colour?

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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32 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

 

He must have a broom up his shirt keeping him upright because he sure doesn't have a backbone.


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5 hours ago, Martyn Sadler said:

But do you think a young man like that should be defined primarily by his skin colour?

Skin colour means nothing to me.  After all you don't know my skin colour


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2 hours ago, Trojan said:

Skin colour means nothing to me.  After all you don't know my skin colour

It should mean nothing to any of us.

So you agree with the young man that he shouldn't be defined primarily by his skin colour?

He references one of Martin Luther King's great quotes: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character."

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1 hour ago, Martyn Sadler said:

It should mean nothing to any of us.

So you agree with the young man that he shouldn't be defined primarily by his skin colour?

He references one of Martin Luther King's great quotes: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character."

The problem is of course that skin colour matters to an awful lot of people. Including the psychopathic Trump.

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3 hours ago, Trojan said:

The problem is of course that skin colour matters to an awful lot of people. Including the psychopathic Trump.

I didn't realise you were qualified to judge on who might and might not be a psychopath.

And here's an example where Trump is addressing some of the injustices that have affected black Americans and he's actually doing something about it.

And here is Alice Johnson reuniting with her family.

I have some American friends who had been campaigning for Alice's release from a blatantly unjust sentencing system for quite a long time. If you were to suggest to them that Trump is a racist after what he's done for her and other unjustly sentenced African-American prisoners, I think you'd be given very short shrift indeed.

Trump also gave an official pardon to the great Jack Johnson, the former World Heavyweight Champion, who was imprisoned by a blatantly racist court in 1913, effectively for having a white girlfriend, when the USA was riddled with racism.

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Wonder what Martin Luther King would think of a President allowing a crowd to chant 'Send her back'.

 


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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