SSoutherner Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Indeed were until recently not a job board themselves but an aggregator for other sites (like Totaljobs and CVLibrary) now they have got their page views/readership up they have started to market themselves as a jobsite and some of those other sites have removed their repostings. The problem they had was CompanyA would post an advert on Totaljobs for 28 days, Indeed would pick it up from Totaljobs and repost it, CompanyA would fill the role after 2 weeks and remove advert from Totaljobs. It would still be floating around on Indeed although filled, they leave ads up for ages but how high they are depends on how much the advertiser wants to pay. So if I was using Indeed (or Reed for that matter) I would put in quite a specific search and then just look on last few days but be willing to read down to the bottom not least as the ads down there might not have as many applicants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Roughyed Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Saint 1 said: I've often thought one of the easiest ways to travel would be to find a job where you can work remotely. My job you couldn't do that outside of Europe though unfortunately. I've seen a few people do it, but it fairly niche free lancing stuff. It also involves selling yourself (blogs, how to guides, etc) and having multi paths of income. With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattSantos Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 LinkedIn is good Running the Rob Burrow marathon to raise money for the My Name'5 Doddie foundation: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/ben-dyas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattSantos Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Bedford Roughyed said: I've seen a few people do it, but it fairly niche free lancing stuff. It also involves selling yourself (blogs, how to guides, etc) and having multi paths of income. Alternatively, have a large enough income through rental properties etc that you can just potter about on that. That's potentially my plan anyway. Running the Rob Burrow marathon to raise money for the My Name'5 Doddie foundation: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/ben-dyas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackroman Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 A bit of market insight for job hunters. Firstly I'm a specialist recruiter in the STEM sector, mainly science. The market is very much a candidates market, so essentially more jobs than people, however the client base still thinks they can recruit specialist skills for fun and use on line tools to fill the jobs. Not so. A good recruiter will emphasise transferable skills to clients and we are getting more joy promoting candidates to clients rather than responding to vacancies. Therefore my advice is contact agencies, kiss some frogs and work with the ones who'll give you advice and make recommendations. Online is black and white, yes or no and a lot of clients have devalued the role of in-house recruiter, often giving the role to a recent grad wet behind the ears. They simply click away at their hearts content rejecting people, oblivious to their real value, thinking that's what they're paid for. Our job like yours, is to by-pass them and get direct to the main people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Roughyed Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 5 hours ago, MattSantos said: Alternatively, have a large enough income through rental properties etc that you can just potter about on that. That's potentially my plan anyway. Yes I often read a 'I gave up work and travel the world, and so can you' story and in the small print are details of a multiple property portfolio. (same with 'i paid off my mortgage in a year' type stories, there is usually an inheritance or unique happening in the small print) With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckn Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Ackroman said: A bit of market insight for job hunters. Firstly I'm a specialist recruiter in the STEM sector, mainly science. The market is very much a candidates market, so essentially more jobs than people, however the client base still thinks they can recruit specialist skills for fun and use on line tools to fill the jobs. Not so. A good recruiter will emphasise transferable skills to clients and we are getting more joy promoting candidates to clients rather than responding to vacancies. Therefore my advice is contact agencies, kiss some frogs and work with the ones who'll give you advice and make recommendations. Online is black and white, yes or no and a lot of clients have devalued the role of in-house recruiter, often giving the role to a recent grad wet behind the ears. They simply click away at their hearts content rejecting people, oblivious to their real value, thinking that's what they're paid for. Our job like yours, is to by-pass them and get direct to the main people. I agree entirely. A good recruitment agency is worth its weight in gold (or margin if you're a contractor). As a recruiting manager, I've known the value of good recruitment agents as they pester me to get them an accurate spec with accurate details of the work they'll do. It forced me to be specific but then they return with a short list of CVs that actually are all interviewable. The less-good agencies take the spec they're given and give you a bunch of CVs where you're happy if you get one interviewable candidate. As a contractor I've known their value as well, they're happy to talk to me just to shoot the breeze and get a two-way transfer of information. They recognise that they work for both me and the recruiting company given it's my hard work that gets them their margin. The less-good agencies will only speak to me if they want something and will happily stiff both me and the client if they can see an extra £ or two in it for them. The only way to find a good recruitment agent is to actually work with them, that does mean you have to sift through a whole pile of dross to get to the coal but it's always worth it. "When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gittinsfan Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I retired last May, what's this job thing you are all on about?.Iwould'nt have time for one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattSantos Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Still not heard owt despite an email. Ah well. Running the Rob Burrow marathon to raise money for the My Name'5 Doddie foundation: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/ben-dyas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleep1673 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I was walking this morning to a "Meeting" that I hadn't been to for 3 weeks, and as I wandered along the seafront, I passed the BHF shop that I had previously volunteered in. I continued along Robertson Street, when a person known to me through the BHF drivers stopped me and asked me if I wanted a days paid work. I Said yes, but I needed to attend my CGL meeting first. I monkeyed £40 for a day loading up a van & taking the rubbish to the tip. First paid work for 26 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleep1673 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Of course I declared this to the DWP through my work journal straight away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Looks like I might finally have landed something permanent and worth having. Job's in Crystal Palace/Norwood but not expected in every day, it's an old and crusty organisation in need of a boot up the bottom but the CEO seems like a good 'un and I spent the whole interview telling them how poor they were, just need to do yet another DBS and I should be good to go. Key thing? No agencies were involved. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrek Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, gingerjon said: Looks like I might finally have landed something permanent and worth having. Job's in Crystal Palace/Norwood but not expected in every day, it's an old and crusty organisation in need of a boot up the bottom but the CEO seems like a good 'un and I spent the whole interview telling them how poor they were, just need to do yet another DBS and I should be good to go. Key thing? No agencies were involved. Congratulations Jon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintslass Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 On 14/02/2018 at 8:12 AM, MattSantos said: Still not heard owt despite an email. Ah well. That's really poor. I hate it when organisations don't make contact. These days, when an email is a doddle to send, there really is no excuse. I hope you have better luck soon. I got two rejections by email recently, having failed to get a job after interview in the previous week. Jobs for me have dried up at the moment although I've just submitted an application for a job at the Home Office. That was quite a process. I haven't done 'competencies' before as part of an application form and its decades since I had to do psychometric tests so the experience has been interesting to say the least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff9of13 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Saintslass said: That's really poor. I hate it when organisations don't make contact. These days, when an email is a doddle to send, there really is no excuse. I hope you have better luck soon. I got two rejections by email recently, having failed to get a job after interview in the previous week. Jobs for me have dried up at the moment although I've just submitted an application for a job at the Home Office. That was quite a process. I haven't done 'competencies' before as part of an application form and its decades since I had to do psychometric tests so the experience has been interesting to say the least! Did they give you feedback as to why you were unsuccessful on this occasion? It really can be helpful and an aid to you in tailoring future applications. Good luck, hope you find something soon. "it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Saintslass said: I hate it when organisations don't make contact. I'm now in a mood where I can laugh about it but last week I had an email from an organisation inviting me in for an interview. As I was typing the reply to thank them and confirm the time the second email from them arrived, recalling the first. I haven't heard from them since. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleep1673 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 3 hours ago, gingerjon said: Looks like I might finally have landed something permanent and worth having. Job's in Crystal Palace/Norwood but not expected in every day, it's an old and crusty organisation in need of a boot up the bottom but the CEO seems like a good 'un and I spent the whole interview telling them how poor they were, just need to do yet another DBS and I should be good to go. Key thing? No agencies were involved. Well done, and you should be able to travel from Hastings to CP although it is 2hr 35m according to Trainline, assuming you're not driving of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckn Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Saintslass said: That's really poor. I hate it when organisations don't make contact. These days, when an email is a doddle to send, there really is no excuse. I hope you have better luck soon. I got two rejections by email recently, having failed to get a job after interview in the previous week. Jobs for me have dried up at the moment although I've just submitted an application for a job at the Home Office. That was quite a process. I haven't done 'competencies' before as part of an application form and its decades since I had to do psychometric tests so the experience has been interesting to say the least! If you get an interview at the Home Office, they have much the same interviewing processes as the NHS and they just don't make sense to folk not inside the system. It's more about you proving what you know rather than proving what you've done. You'll get more points for knowing WHAT to do but not doing it than you will for proving you can do it but don't know the precise wording. Read the job specs and person profile ruthlessly and paraphrase their bits when you're not sure what to put. Someone once complained about my interviewing in the NHS because every question I asked them was around performance and they felt it "unfair". "When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, Bleep1673 said: Well done, and you should be able to travel from Hastings to CP although it is 2hr 35m according to Trainline, assuming you're not driving of course. Thanks. It'll be a bit of both. The drive is very simple as it's just J4 of the M25 and then a squiggle with the SatNav around some bits of outer London I don't recognise. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckn Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 hours ago, gingerjon said: Looks like I might finally have landed something permanent and worth having. Job's in Crystal Palace/Norwood but not expected in every day, it's an old and crusty organisation in need of a boot up the bottom but the CEO seems like a good 'un and I spent the whole interview telling them how poor they were, just need to do yet another DBS and I should be good to go. Key thing? No agencies were involved. When do you start? Have you stopped concerning the family by skipping around the house yet? "When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt; run in little circles, wave your arms and shout" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just now, ckn said: When do you start? Have you stopped concerning the family by skipping around the house yet? When my DBS comes through so 3-4 weeks. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleep1673 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, gingerjon said: When my DBS comes through so 3-4 weeks. When I worked at the London Clinic my DBS took 7 months, for the Nurse+ agency it took 3, then they turned me down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleep1673 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Saw a job advertised on Reed, admin assistant, Eastbourne, right next to the station, "Must have Driving License with less than 6 points"! Why? It is a single office based job. Less than 5 minutes walk from the Station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob8 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 What is a DBS? "You clearly have never met Bob8 then, he's like a veritable Bryan Ferry of RL." - Johnoco 19 Jul 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bleep1673 said: When I worked at the London Clinic my DBS took 7 months, for the Nurse+ agency it took 3, then they turned me down. It's got a lot quicker in the past year or two. I've had three in that time. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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