MJL Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 If the Hull league fell in line with the NCL and other leagues (yes I think it should be winter for the better of the game but that's a different argument for another day) I believe the NCL teams would put their a teams in and a few clubs merge you could end up with West Hull A Myton A Skirlaugh A Dockers A East Hull NHK Tuns Norland Beverley A Bilton/reckitts Lambwath/Bransholme Brownlies I am not saying those 4 teams should merge just off the top of my head and I am sure I have missed some teams but that could be a competitive league. and I have put Beverley in as I have heard they are trying to get an A team together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender1 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 3 hours ago, MJL said: If the Hull league fell in line with the NCL and other leagues (yes I think it should be winter for the better of the game but that's a different argument for another day) I believe the NCL teams would put their a teams in and a few clubs merge you could end up with West Hull A Myton A Skirlaugh A Dockers A East Hull NHK Tuns Norland Beverley A Bilton/reckitts Lambwath/Bransholme Brownlies I am not saying those 4 teams should merge just off the top of my head and I am sure I have missed some teams but that could be a competitive league. and I have put Beverley in as I have heard they are trying to get an A team together That would be good problem is the politics involved there have been a lot of personal issues between club personal and committee members which is sad really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Yes I'm aware of some issues, ideally we all need to put the past behind us for the good of the amateur game in Hull. The clubs need a strong Hull and district league and the league needs the clubs. If that can't be done then perhaps we need some new blood on the committee. I no longer coach and would not be averse to joining the committee but it appears to be a closed group of volunteers who often seem out of touch with the current players/teams needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender1 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, MJL said: Yes I'm aware of some issues, ideally we all need to put the past behind us for the good of the amateur game in Hull. The clubs need a strong Hull and district league and the league needs the clubs. If that can't be done then perhaps we need some new blood on the committee. I no longer coach and would not be averse to joining the committee but it appears to be a closed group of volunteers who often seem out of touch with the current players/teams needs I spoke to Alan Parker only yesterday and they re-elected all the committee as nobody stood, you would have to go through a club to get nominated I would think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Cheers I will have a word will Alan this week see what needs to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowes Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 15 hours ago, Defender1 said: It appears they have left the YML but applied to enter the Hull league, apparently only 10 clubs have applied (will all make it) but there was a vote to allow a team from York and Scarborough to join with only one club against Is this separate clubs from York and Scarborough, or one playing out of both venues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender1 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 hours ago, bowes said: Is this separate clubs from York and Scarborough, or one playing out of both venues? I am not sure it was a suggestion apparently and they have had interest, Scarborough used to play in the Hull league but the Hull clubs complained about the travelling, again the York thing does not seem like a club but a York team the season opener is a Hull select v a York select Early days it appears last few years there has been a lot of conflict over the registration's with a limit on registered players and the need to register or deregister players by Thursday at 9pm which caused many issues and hard work with the clubs as you don't usually know who is available until Saturday by then too late for players to play, now unlimited registrations but still have to register by Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB120 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I know a new York team had expressed an interest to join. Hull & District v York & District in September for the Jonny Whiteley Trophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 On 17/08/2017 at 5:21 PM, Defender1 said: It appears they have left the YML but applied to enter the Hull league, apparently only 10 clubs have applied (will all make it) but there was a vote to allow a team from York and Scarborough to join with only one club against I think the Hull league could mop up a few of the old CMS Yorkshire league sides who left the Pennine because it wasn't the promised land and their only choice was to go summer, now they're realising it's not all sunshine and BBQ's. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 On 17/08/2017 at 6:59 PM, MJL said: I was never in favour of switching to summer and believe it has ruined the amateur game. But we now have to deal with the hand we are dealt. The Hull area no longer has enough players to support the number of teams we used to have. So if not merging some clubs together (only the clubs who are struggling for players) then what do we do? I can't remember the last time the Hull league completed a season without clubs dropping out and not been able to fulfil the fixture list. I would rather have a league of say 8 or 10 teams that all have the ability to play a full season then two leagues of 8 and half the teams drop out. How are the union clubs doing in the winter ? Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henage Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 If you read(in the local paper) the match/club reports they are going well . You cant read anything about amateur rugby league (local paper ) as news/reports are thin on the ground . NCL teams get a very small write up pre weekends games and maybe small write up /results post games . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 3 hours ago, henage said: If you read(in the local paper) the match/club reports they are going well . You cant read anything about amateur rugby league (local paper ) as news/reports are thin on the ground . NCL teams get a very small write up pre weekends games and maybe small write up /results post games . HDM always used to have brilliant coverage of the local RL, I used to go to Goole to pick one up to read the reports. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender1 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, Marauder said: HDM always used to have brilliant coverage of the local RL, I used to go to Goole to pick one up to read the reports. Was that in the days of the Green Sports Mail ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Defender1 said: Was that in the days of the Green Sports Mail ? mid 80's, I think it was the Thursday edition, it had all the results, write up's and fixtures in. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender1 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Marauder said: mid 80's, I think it was the Thursday edition, it had all the results, write up's and fixtures in. Probably was, Green mail came out Saturday about 6.30 was great really had all local results apparently the reporters had to find a phone box that worked to ring in the report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Defender1 said: Probably was, Green mail came out Saturday about 6.30 was great really had all local results apparently the reporters had to find a phone box that worked to ring in the report Our local Saturday evening sports paper was called the Green'un, I used to sell them outside the local pubs. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hullfan Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Green mail was brilliant, still got all the reports/pictures I was in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henage Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Marauder said: HDM always used to have brilliant coverage of the local RL, I used to go to Goole to pick one up to read the reports. Someone's got to do a match report , take a few pictures put it all together and send it in and hope you get to someone at the other end that is interested in your report / pictures . Once in a blue moon you might get the papers freelance photographer down to a game . Like lots of thinks , the people helping out are doing 100 and 1 thinks for clubs/teams during the week and match days and prob don't need the extra work involved . Guy came down to a Dockers A team game a few weeks ago and did a really good video highlights package that he puts on his internet channel (ytube?) he is in demand for his services . Something like this is a good outlet for clubs but still doesn't make up for near zero coverage in the local press . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, henage said: Someone's got to do a match report , take a few pictures put it all together and send it in and hope you get to someone at the other end that is interested in your report / pictures . Once in a blue moon you might get the papers freelance photographer down to a game . Like lots of thinks , the people helping out are doing 100 and 1 thinks for clubs/teams during the week and match days and prob don't need the extra work involved . Guy came down to a Dockers A team game a few weeks ago and did a really good video highlights package that he puts on his internet channel (ytube?) he is in demand for his services . Something like this is a good outlet for clubs but still doesn't make up for near zero coverage in the local press . Yeah grass roots media it's called. Local guy called Shaun runs it, Some good coverage. The whole amateur game in Hull needs a revamp from the league, the coverage and the committee. The problem is as always is nobody is willing to go the extra mile (or not enough people are) to promote the game anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henage Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Agree with you . Game needs some fresh blood , ideas ,strong leadership etc etc . Need the volunteer's that's the big one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, henage said: Agree with you . Game needs some fresh blood , ideas ,strong leadership etc etc . Need the volunteer's that's the big one . Any games down at dockers this weekend, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henage Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Bit late but no 1st team not sure about Ac team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender1 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 18/08/2017 at 8:15 AM, MJL said: Cheers I will have a word will Alan this week see what needs to be done. Spoke to Alan yesterday they are asking for people that was the last thing they said at the meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Defender1 said: Spoke to Alan yesterday they are asking for people that was the last thing they said at the meeting Cheers , Got a lot on beginning of the week with the kids been off , but I'll give him a bell on Wednesday see if there is anything I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henage Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I think the problem you might have is you will have good ideas , different ways to do things that might be a better way than what's happening now etc etc . You will fight for your ideas but will be beaten down over time . Someone who is coaching a youth team suggested to the league splitting the league into two sections , as half the teams where getting hammered every other week . Then if any teams showed big improvements let them have another go at the elite teams . He received an email from the league saying this wont be happening and maybe it was down top poor coaching and he needed to up his game (in as many words) The coach who in the passed took a team from 8s to the national league (u18s) then onto open age wasn't to pleased , maybe another volunteer to walk away from the game . If he hasn't all ready as last time I spoke to him he was a little p----d off to say the least . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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