Trojan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, RidingPie said: whilst I don't necessarily disagree, again, wouldn't an actual discussion on policy show him up more than insults. Possibly so, but I don't regard them as insults, just facts. He was described the other day as a sociopath. Isn't that someone who's unhinged? “Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.” Clement Attlee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 32 minutes ago, Saint 1 said: I can't say that the International Investment Position is something I know much about, but my understanding of it is that it's the total external assets and liabilities, including both public and private debt in the liabilities and similarly public and private assets. According to the ONS: "UK assets fell by £60.9 billion to £10,642.6 billion in Quarter 2 2017. UK external liabilities dropped £29.6 billion in Quarter 2 2017 to £10,743.8 billion.." With that in mind, this revision doesn't quite have the significance it would if it was incorrectly being compared to GDP, for example - while still not good news. The fall in FDI is potentially more worrying. However, as has already been stated, had Corbyn (or any other Labour leader) been in charge these figures would be portrayed in the Tory press as disastrous. And the country would be gong the same way as Greece (see 2010) “Few thought him even a starter.There were many who thought themselves smarter. But he ended PM, CH and OM. An Earl and a Knight of the Garter.” Clement Attlee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingPie Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Trojan said: Possibly so, but I don't regard them as insults, just facts. He was described the other day as a sociopath. Isn't that someone who's unhinged? I’m not sure. A more relevant question might be, are there ever circumstances having a sociopath in charge would be more beneficial than having a pacifist in charge? that though is getting well off topic :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiyan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Actually the ONS has said the technical adjustment in has made on how it reports the figures have resulted in the lower amount over the last 30 years So it seems Labour have lost as much down the sofa as the Torys.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 7 hours ago, graveyard johnny said: if he was pm I would gather my stuff and get the hell out of the uk, un hinghed, bitter, creepy, old socialists don't have anything to offer I bet you don't "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Phil said: I bet you don't don't leave the uk? or don't have anythingto offer? see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, graveyard johnny said: don't leave the uk? or don't have anythingto offer? Don't leave the uk "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Phil said: Don't leave the uk in honest conversation , we do have a leasehold property abroad, it crosses my mind more and more to re locate as the country I grew up in is no longer the country I grew up in ( I wont elaborate or debate with socialists on this) for fear of being labelled right minded see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongs ya bas Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: in honest conversation , we do have a leasehold property abroad, it crosses my mind more and more to re locate as the country I grew up in is no longer the country I grew up in ( I wont elaborate or debate with socialists on this) for fear of being labelled right minded I don't think the world of discourse, rhetoric and ideas has suffered too great a loss because of your reticence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Tongs ya bas said: I don't think the world of discourse, rhetoric and ideas has suffered too great a loss because of yourcreticence well said- whats that long word at the end though? see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tongs ya bas Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: well said- whats that long word at the end though? A typo like the one you made when you omitted the apostrophe in 'what's'. It was a typo wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 That must have been a bloody big watch if you could lose that much under it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padge Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 48 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: in honest conversation , we do have a leasehold property abroad, it crosses my mind more and more to re locate as the country I grew up in is no longer the country I grew up in ( I wont elaborate or debate with socialists on this) for fear of being labelled right minded I presume you voted for Brexit? Visit my photography site www.padge.smugmug.com Radio 5 Live: Saturday 14 April 2007 Dave Whelan "In Wigan rugby will always be king" This country's wealth was created by men in overalls, it was destroyed by men in suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, Padge said: I presume you voted for Brexit? of course not, im too dim to tick the box see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun mc Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The Govt aren't bothered about Brexit, they just want to get it over and done with. You can sense the impatience now. They aren't bothered because every one of them has so much wealth themselves or within the family for the consequences not to matter. And then if Brexit does start to impact them, then the money and assets are moved elsewhere, as we are seeing. It does not matter whether its a quarter or half of the country's GDP that is being shipped out of the country, rock all will be done about it. Free market and de-regulation rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 On 16/10/2017 at 9:23 AM, ckn said: Beyond being in the Telegraph, I’ve seen this nowhere else and the media are just not covering it. Am I missing something? We’ve gone from being a relatively asset wealthy nation to one with negative equity in the blink of an eye. A revision from the OBR has turned us into a premium lender’s trouble customer rather than a sure bet. How can this NOT be big news? Who controls the media ? Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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