Hopping Mad Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I note Upton's results have been removed from the YML Premier Division table. Take it their experiment with playing a summer season was short-lived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Rhino Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 WEST OF ENGLAND RESULTS Saturday 23 June Oxford Cavaliers 24-30 Reading Raiders Portsmouth Seahawks ?-? Southampton Spitfires Swindon St George A 28-52 All Golds Swindon St George 32-32 Somerset Vikings 2014 Challenged Cup Winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Rhino Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 WEST OF ENGLAND FIXTURES Saturday 30June Super 5's Swindon St George v Reading Raiders Somerset Vikings v Oxford Cavaliers All Golds - Bye Weekend Championship 5's Bath RL v Cheltenham Phoenix Portsmouth Seahawks v Southampton Spitfires (could be other way round) Swindon St George A - Bye Weekend 2014 Challenged Cup Winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopping Mad Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Maybe more midweek fixtures offer a solution to amateur rugby league's problem with Saturday cry-offs. This evening, I drove over to Sherburn-in-Elmet to watch Sherburn Bears take on Yorkshire League Fourth Division leaders Crofton Sports. Sherburn had 17 players and Crofton the maximum permissible 20. Impressive! In balmy conditions, and on a pitch like concrete, Sherburn led 10-6 at half-time before Crofton extended to six games their 100 per cent start to the season by running in four second half tries to win 22-10. Bears finished the game with 11 players after a sin-binning and a sending-off in the last 10 minutes. There was a sin-binning apiece before the break. A highly physical contest! The crowd at Eversley Park (a very pleasant setting in an otherwise dreary village) peaked at 129. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender1 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Not trying to pour water on a hard pitch but some of these games would be called off if played in January or February was the test for the pitch to take a stud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopping Mad Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 12 hours ago, Defender1 said: Not trying to pour water on a hard pitch but some of these games would be called off if played in January or February was the test for the pitch to take a stud Got to agree with you there. As a player, I much preferred summer to winter rugby but some pitches during drought conditions were not fit for purpose and downright dangerous. Clubs should have a duty of care to ensure they are watered in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 12 hours ago, Hopping Mad said: Maybe more midweek fixtures offer a solution to amateur rugby league's problem with Saturday cry-offs. This evening, I drove over to Sherburn-in-Elmet to watch Sherburn Bears take on Yorkshire League Fourth Division leaders Crofton Sports. Sherburn had 17 players and Crofton the maximum permissible 20. Impressive! In balmy conditions, and on a pitch like concrete, Sherburn led 10-6 at half-time before Crofton extended to six games their 100 per cent start to the season by running in four second half tries to win 22-10. Bears finished the game with 11 players after a sin-binning and a sending-off in the last 10 minutes. There was a sin-binning apiece before the break. A highly physical contest! The crowd at Eversley Park (a very pleasant setting in an otherwise dreary village) peaked at 129. I like the idea of some midweek evening games, a good idea to alleviate some of the weekend unavailability, although you’d still get some players not being able to make it for work/family reasons, you’d probably get a lower dropout from other activities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSoutherner Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 5 hours ago, DoubleD said: Got to agree with you there. As a player, I much preferred summer to winter rugby but some pitches during drought conditions were not fit for purpose and downright dangerous. Clubs should have a duty of care to ensure they are watered in advance. Not always an option - commercial users usually have to pay for water by the '000 liters and you have to get an abstraction licence to be allowed to drill your own borehole. I understand what you are saying but watering is not a zero cost option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, SSoutherner said: Not always an option - commercial users usually have to pay for water by the '000 liters and you have to get an abstraction licence to be allowed to drill your own borehole. I understand what you are saying but watering is not a zero cost option I’m not saying it’s a zero cost option, I’m saying it should be a mandatory requirement to ensure games take place in times of drought, when the rock hard nature of some pitches make them hazardous and significantly increase the risk of injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 hours ago, DoubleD said: I’m not saying it’s a zero cost option, I’m saying it should be a mandatory requirement to ensure games take place in times of drought, when the rock hard nature of some pitches make them hazardous and significantly increase the risk of injury We've had the local fire service come down and water our pitch in the past, two engine loads never even touched it. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSoutherner Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, Marauder said: We've had the local fire service come down and water our pitch in the past, two engine loads never even touched it. I grew up on a farm and we had what we called 3 day fields due to clay - too dry one day just right the next and bogs the following Whether moderate watering will make any difference is a function of soil type and if you have the wrong soil there is pretty much nothing you can do at sensible cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, SSoutherner said: I grew up on a farm and we had what we called 3 day fields due to clay - too dry one day just right the next and bogs the following Whether moderate watering will make any difference is a function of soil type and if you have the wrong soil there is pretty much nothing you can do at sensible cost Play in the winter lol Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSoutherner Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Marauder said: Play in the winter lol Then it is a bog - you can play for 1 day each in spring & autumn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisholm Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I very concerned about the state of pitches and the temperature this weekend, the league committee's should use a bit of commonsense and think about player welfare. After all these players are amateur and need to work Monday's. Hopefully only bumps and scrapes nothing more serious, sorry to say fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, chisholm said: I very concerned about the state of pitches and the temperature this weekend, the league committee's should use a bit of commonsense and think about player welfare. After all these players are amateur and need to work Monday's. Hopefully only bumps and scrapes nothing more serious, sorry to say fingers crossed. Our pitch is looking brilliant at the moment, we've got a committee member who recently retired and he spends most days down on the Miners welfare ground looking after our little patch. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmatrix Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 If lads can't turn up on a weekend, I doubt very much they'll turn out on a week night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisholm Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Marauder said: Our pitch is looking brilliant at the moment, we've got a committee member who recently retired and he spends most days down on the Miners welfare ground looking after our little patch. Good stuff, ours is also looked after a very helpful and capable volunteer. Unfortunately our pitch is superb for draining in winter but we pay the price in these conditions. Like most clubs we are on a water meter and it is financially impossible to utilise a sprinkler type system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza_merged Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, johnmatrix said: If lads can't turn up on a weekend, I doubt very much they'll turn out on a week night! you can play on Thursday night and go to festivals/stag dos on the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender1 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 7 hours ago, bazza_merged said: you can play on Thursday night and go to festivals/stag dos on the weekend Switch to Summer you will have that many player you won’t know what to do with them, David Gent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmatrix Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Most players I know do not like playing on a week night, especially if your in a manual job. Not to mention quite alot of players will work away so you'd be down on playing numbers again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 9 hours ago, bazza_merged said: you can play on Thursday night and go to festivals/stag dos on the weekend What if you've got 75% of your team working away like we do and don't live in an area surrounded by other rugby league playing villages like Sherburn. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 11 hours ago, chisholm said: Good stuff, ours is also looked after a very helpful and capable volunteer. Unfortunately our pitch is superb for draining in winter but we pay the price in these conditions. Like most clubs we are on a water meter and it is financially impossible to utilise a sprinkler type system. We've been working hard on our ground for the last three years or so, it's actually looking a lot better than the after photo I've posted (It was taken two years ago) I'll post some up to date photo's in the next couple of months when we get a 75 seater stand erected. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmatrix Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Played there when the pitchside barriers looked like that, your boys were always a good set. Always had to front up and be prepared for a physical battle against your mob, not in a dirty sense though. How strongng is the junior set up in Donny area now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 16 hours ago, johnmatrix said: Played there when the pitchside barriers looked like that, your boys were always a good set. Always had to front up and be prepared for a physical battle against your mob, not in a dirty sense though. How strongng is the junior set up in Donny area now? Moorends have the weakest junior set up by far but we are addressing that aggressively now we've put our open-age back in order after a little internal management problem that had us on our knees three years ago, Bentley and Toll Bar have strong juniors with both having many kids from our area in their set up's, both Bentley & Toll Bar don't have any real direct competition from a union side like we do with Thornensians. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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