thehullram Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Lots of decisions to make. I’d go with:- widdop mcgillivary watkins percival hall brown gale graham hodgson hill burgess whitehead loughlin subs roby walmsley burgess currie/bateman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Widdop McGillvary Watkins Percival Hall Brown Gale Burgess Roby Graham Currie Whitehead O’Loughlin Interchange: Bateman Hill McMeeken Walmsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorside roughyed Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I've just been immensely frustrated by that English performance,I don't care who plays where just as long as they play the FULL 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hullfan Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Why does brown get in peoples team?? He was a 6 at best today against a bunch of amateurs. Williams is england best half and most dangerous runner. PNG will beat us anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapski Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Because Williams just does what he wants, and doesn’t play in a team structure. 1 Widdop 6 Brown 7 Gale 9 Roby. It’s s the best and only way to go. But Bennett won’t go that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hullfan Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, snapski said: Because Williams just does what he wants, and doesn’t play in a team structure. 1 Widdop 6 Brown 7 Gale 9 Roby. It’s s the best and only way to go. But Bennett won’t go that way. Course he does Like he does in most structured team in SL, some people on here make me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, Hullfan said: Why does brown get in peoples team?? He was a 6 at best today against a bunch of amateurs. Williams is england best half and most dangerous runner. PNG will beat us anyways How have you arrived at the conclusion that PNG will beat England? "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Gale will get the nod at 7 so I guess the question is will England be a better team with Gale and Widdop in the halves and Lomax at full back or Gale and Brown in the halves and Widdop at full back (I think Bennett has Williams tagged as the utility player in this squad). Bateman will start in the centre as he is hardly likely to play him there for three full games and then change it (I would). I also suspect he will go with Hodgson over Roby even though Roby has been very good so far. I think Bennett will go with... Lomax McGilvary Watkins Bateman Hall Gale Widdop Hill Hodgson Graham S. Burgess Whitehead O'Loughlin T. Burgess Walmsley Currie Williams Personally, I would go with the above but Roby for Hodgson and Percival for Bateman in the left centre. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhinos78 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Id go 1.Widdop 2.Mcgillvery 3.Watkins 4.Percival 5.Hall 6.Williams 7.Gale 8.S.Burgess 9.Roby 10.Graham 11.Currie 12.Whitehead 13.O'loughlin 14.Walmsley 15.T.Burgess 16.Mcmeeken 17.Hodgson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 As much as I think Bennett will go with Hodgson, I'd certainly go with Roby, either for the full 80 or starting with Hodgson off the bench. Gale looked far better with Roby at nine. Widdop I feel would be good at 6 or 1; definitely appeared to offer more of a creative game out the back than Lomax and Ratchford have this year. Perhaps carrying Lomax on the bench as a utility, without having a reserve hooker, may be the way to go against the best teams. Means things can be shifted if needed in the final quarter. FB Widdop WGs Hall Mcgilvary CEs Watkins Percival 6/7 Brown Gale PRs Taylor Graham 9 Roby SRs Burgess (if fit, if not Currie) Whitehead 13 O'loughlin Bench Walmsley, Burgess, McMeeken, Lomax Imperative should be maintaining 1 of S Burgess, Graham and Lockers on the pitch at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowdesert Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Widdop. Hall, Currie, Watkins, JMc. Gale, Brown. Hill, Roby, Graham SB, Whitehead. SOl. Subs: Burgess, Walmsley, Ratchford, McGeeken. Today, Currie did not impress me. IMO he’s an out and out centre. Roby is causing opposition more problems than Hodgson. Ratchford offers more than Lomax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wollo Wollo Wayoo Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Widdop at full back, Watkins and Percival in the centres. He can select who he likes for the rest. This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. Wakefield Trinity RLFC 2012 - 2014 "The wasted years" 2013, 2014 & 2015 Official Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's left foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The Return of the Prodigal Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamfordsbeans Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Whilst Brown had a good game today,its like a Chelsea player having a good game against Peterborough in a midweek game and being the answer to beat Man City on the Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 26 minutes ago, bamfordsbeans said: Whilst Brown had a good game today,its like a Chelsea player having a good game against Peterborough in a midweek game and being the answer to beat Man City on the Saturday. What Brown did today is the fundamental play in any code of rugby, he passesd the ball crisply, at the right time and on target, i.e. 'A PASS BEATS A MAN EVERYTIME' and in doing so it benefits every player who is on the outside of that pass, those calling for Williams inclusion who is an out and out instinctive player do not see the benefit in constructive play and getting others players involved, England are not going to beat seasoned NRL players with a stand off who plays his own way their defences are far far to good for any individual to worry them, a player who gets the rest of the team involved causes them far more problems. Same with Bateman he has more deficiencies than positives in the centre position, he proved that in the first friendly game against the CAS team, the 4th game on the trott later and he has not improved one iota in that position, I wish that Bennett and his coaching team would substantiate why he has been their preferred choice in that position it would make fascinating reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 In a way the question isn't about who is the best player, it is about who works best in combination. With Roby and OLoughlin keeping the defence honest, through a running and a passing threat, either Widdop or Brown would work at 6 as the key job is to play straight and hold the defence. Lomax offers even less of a running threat at 1 than Wellens and should be nowhere near the team. Widdop offers the best running threat from 1, and so should play there, with Brown at 6. Gale is very limited but can kick well on his day, but we can carry him if we have the right balance elsewhere. The only other questions I think we have are the left centre - where I really like the idea of Currie and Burgess linking up (please god no more Bateman there) - and whether Hill is worth his place. He looks a player in decline to me, but has been so good for so long I would not mind seeing him in white. We should have more than enough for PNG in Melbourne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 49 minutes ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said: Widdop at full back, Watkins and Percival in the centres. He can select who he likes for the rest. C'mon Wallo be brave tells us your halves and why you would put Widdop at Full Back, incidentally how good would your Mr Grix be at linking with the attack if he did not have a little guile to play of in the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said: We should have more than enough for PNG in Melbourne. If we don't and the unthinkable happens, then thhey should all hang their heads in shame and Feck Off to the other code where they may be of some use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 WIddop looked good at fullback . Seemed liberated and enjoyed the freedom and ability to link up where he saw the play . I’d be tempted to keep him there . Sam back is good . Dunno but I still don’t see why they eulogise over OLoughlin or what he’s doing that’s so marvellous , and Percival did enough to keep that spot for me . Roby to is an xfactor to who’s grabbed a place , and Burgess and Walmsley on the bench are a good duo. Still think Hill is busking a place on form , but more than owt with us it’s HOW rather than WHO . Maintaining intensity longer ,being clinical and minimising errors and you give yourselves a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Eel Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 The beauty of having Widdop at fullback is that in the attacking line, we then have multiple ball playing options. Widdop, Gale, Brown, O'loughlin can shift the ball quickly to two of the best wingers in the competition. Yes, it was against an inferior team than the world's best, but we didn't see that against and average Lebanon side. 1. Widdop 2. McGilvarry 3. Watkins 4. Percival 5. Hall 6. Brown 7. Gale 8. Hill 9. Roby 10. Graham 11. Burgess 12. Whitehead 13. O'Loughlin 14. Hodgson 15. McMeeken 16. Walmsley 17. Currie Currie is your utility man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Mcmeekin looks strong and did ok , I thought Currie was quiet. Bennett likes brown I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see him play a part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I think it does Brown and England no harm that betts is his assistant as he managed to get so much out of him at Widnes. McMeekin isn't in the same league as Currie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMEGA Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Based on performance Widdop McGilvery Watkins Percival Hall Brown Gale/Williams Taylor Roby Graham Whitehead SBurgess O’Loughlin Currie McMeekin Walmsley TBurgess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jananbillingsbarmyarmy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Hodgson got to play hooker only cam smith better than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 5 hours ago, snapski said: Because Williams just does what he wants, and doesn’t play in a team structure. 1 Widdop 6 Brown 7 Gale 9 Roby. It’s s the best and only way to go. But Bennett won’t go that way. A player who played for wigan under wane and Michael McGuire can't play in a structure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 5 hours ago, Hullfan said: Why does brown get in peoples team?? He was a 6 at best today against a bunch of amateurs. Williams is england best half and most dangerous runner. PNG will beat us anyways Did you actually watch the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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