Film Thread (What have you been watching?)

[Wiltshire Rhino]

On 06/09/2021 at 16:10, Stirlin said:

The Keeper.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000zhk8/the-keeper

Saw this last night , worth a watch.

Seconded 

[Futtocks]

What Back to the Future could have looked like.

 

[gingerjon]

2 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

What Back to the Future could have looked like.

 

I'm guessing this isn't genuine - unless they somehow did use footage from Some Kind of Wonderful (1987) in the early recording of Back to the Future (1985).

Which would be kind of apt.

[Futtocks]

1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

I'm guessing this isn't genuine - unless they somehow did use footage from Some Kind of Wonderful (1987) in the early recording of Back to the Future (1985).

Which would be kind of apt.

No, it's a fan-made video. Nothing official. But BTTF without Michael J.Fox is a weird notion nowadays. Stolts looked like he was headed to the top back then, but it never really worked out like that.

Edited September 18, 2021 by Futtocks

[gingerjon]

1 minute ago, Futtocks said:

No, it's a fan-made video. Nothing official.

Am I right in thinking that the footage does exist of the Stolz scenes but has not been released? They did get to the filming stage.

[Futtocks]

1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

Am I right in thinking that the footage does exist of the Stolz scenes but has not been released? They did get to the filming stage.

They switched stars after 5 weeks of shooting, so there must be a few scenes stored somewhere.

[Liverpool Rover]

 

14 hours ago, Futtocks said:

They switched stars after 5 weeks of shooting, so there must be a few scenes stored somewhere.

There is a show on Netflix which focuses on the making of a different show and one of the ones was BTTF. There is still footage of Stoltz and there is apparently a scene in the actual film where Stoltz was in.

[Futtocks]

Terminator 2 filming locations, with a guest appearance by Robert Patrick. Funny guy.

 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

I'm gonna start this post with a disclaimer. I am an obsessive, life long Bond fan, I have read the books at least a dozen times each and watched the films approximately 100 times each, that is not an exaggeration. I will try not to give anything away. 

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I have just been to see No Time to Die. It was ###### dreadful. It is one of the worst Bond films ever made.

1. If I wanted to watch a sci-fi/action film from the 1980s then I would watch one. This is a science fiction film not a spy thriller. I felt more like I was watching something like Universal Soldier or Blade Runner than Bond. The main story is so unbelievable and far fetched I just could not feel engrossed by it. On top of the main story as well, there are several subplots that just over complicate the flow of the film to the point where you are slightly confused as to which direction the film should be going in, which story it should actually be following. 

2. The storyline was incredibly disjointed and so little is explained effectively to leave you feeling satisfied and gripped by what is going on. I was very aware I was sat in a cinema, it just did not draw me in. 

3. It so obviously rips off and references several previous Bond films without any apologies and also takes a massive amount of plot out of one of the novels which was never used in the film adaptation of that novel. This is not done with any kind of sympathy of respect for the source material. 

4. Similarly a couple of key characters from the Bond universe are treated with utter disrespect by the filmmakers and cast aside as if they mean nothing to the series. 

5. As I say, the film is disjointed and this is very much seen in the choice of locations. One of the key things in Bond is the locations are almost a character in themselves. Traditionally Bond is sent to a glamorous location and the film is themed around that place. In this someone has clearly closed their eyes and picked a random place on a map, sent Bond there and then decided off the top of their head what will happen when he gets there for the 10 minutes he is there and as a result all these completely unrelated places seem to almost present unrelated little short stories themselves. This is not a glamorous film at all. 

6. Hugh Dennis shows up at one point in an attempt to be a serious actor. It does not work. It is as bad as when Goldie was in The World is not Enough. 

7. The direction is dreadful. Someone tell this director that he can occasionally use a wide angle, pulled out shot. I just watch 2hrs 43mins or a camera basically shoved a centimetre away from Daniel Craig's face. This film felt ridiculously claustrophobic as a result and also contributed to the poor treatment of the locations. 

8. The main villain is rubbish, holds no presence on screen and the actor was unimpressive. I say holds no presence on screen, that being during the little time he actually seems to be in the film. I'm sure he only actually appeared in about 20 minutes of the entire thing. I actually thought his main henchman was better than him. 

9. Bringing back the previous Bond girl was so unnecessary. At one point Bond meets up with a female CIA agent who would have made a fantastic Bond girl, really liked her, unfortunately she was only in the film for 10 minutes if that. 

10. Daniel Craig didn't even seem quite as on his game for this one as previous Bond films he's been in. He seemed to be trying to imitate Roger Moore a hell of a lot throughout it and it just didn't work, it came across like a spoof of the Bond character rather than a serious take on it. 

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There we are, ten reasons why this is one of the worst Bond films ever made. For me it is currently in my bottom 5 Bond films. After a second viewing I may be able to reevaluate this but at the moment I am very, very disappointed. 

And so, I give it: 4/10

 

Ps. I stayed right until the end of the credits as you should with Bond and indeed it did say that James Bond will return. 

[Futtocks]

Get off the fence.

[Futtocks]

Seriously, the Daniel Craig Bond movies don't grab me at all. I've fallen asleep twice trying to watch Casino Royale. Mind you, that still makes it the best Bond film called Casino Royale, but that's not saying much.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

23 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Seriously, the Daniel Craig Bond movies don't grab me at all. I've fallen asleep twice trying to watch Casino Royale. Mind you, that still makes it the best Bond film called Casino Royale, but that's not saying much.

I don't know what someone was smoking when they decided to make Spectre cos that was the start of the end for the Craig films, essentially the idea of trying to link Quantum and Silva with Spectre even though there was no previous references or hints to this link in the previous 3 films, obviously because they hadn't thought of doing it before. You can't just retrofit a linked timeline into a load of standalone films and think it will work. And like I say, this latest films just makes the situation worse, overcomplicates it, completely disrespects everything that goes before Craig in the series. I do really like Casino Royale I must say but the following 4 films have been an utter disaster. 

And fine, just for you Futtocks, cos I like you, I will get off the fence:

I hated No Time to Die. It is the 3rd worst Bond film in my opinion. My bottom 3 goes thusly;

23. No Time to Die

24. A View to a Kill

25. Die Another Day

[DavidM]

Skyfall was quite good but for me anyone but Sean just isn’t the real deal 

[DavidM]

2 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

don't know what someone was smoking when they decided to make Spectre

Terrible . I got dragged to the pictures to watch that and wanted to ask for a refund . 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

1 minute ago, DavidM said:

Terrible . I got dragged to the pictures to watch that and wanted to ask for a refund . 

I must say I was very tempted to demand my money back today. 

[DavidM]

2 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

23. No Time to Die

24. A View to a Kill

25. Die Another Day

1. Goldfinger

2. From Russia With Love 

3. Dr No

[Futtocks]

3 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Skyfall was quite good but for me anyone but Sean just isn’t the real deal 

Connery set the style. Lazenby was better than some people like to suggest. Roger Moore made it more frivolous. Timothy Dalton tried to make his character more like the one in the books. Pierce Brosnan started pretty well but the movies weren't always up to scratch. Daniel Craig was the first of the "let's rip off the Bourne movies" Bonds.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

Just now, DavidM said:

1. Goldfinger

2. From Russia With Love 

3. Dr No

I challenge you to do your entire list mate! I've probably got an old one lying round here somewhere, I'll do it again tonight and post tomorrow!

For now, my top 5:

1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

2. From Russia With Love

3. The Living Daylights

4. Thunderball

5. For Your Eyes Only

[DavidM]

5 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Connery set the style. Lazenby was better than some people like to suggest. Roger Moore made it more frivolous. Timothy Dalton tried to make his character more like the one in the books. Pierce Brosnan started pretty well but the movies weren't always up to scratch. Daniel Craig was the first of the "let's rip off the Bourne movies" Bonds.

I rewatched Dalton’s movies and they weren’t the best but yes he gave it more of a sort of cold blooded intensity that was a bit of what Craig would try to bring years later . I think he’s a bit undervalued tbh in the role 

Edited September 30, 2021 by DavidM

[DavidM]

1 minute ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I challenge you to do your entire list mate! I've probably got an old one lying round here somewhere, I'll do it again tonight and post tomorrow!

For now, my top 5:

1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

2. From Russia With Love

3. The Living Daylights

4. Thunderball

5. For Your Eyes Only

Theme tunes 

1. Nobody Does It Better

2. Diamonds Are Forever 

3. Goldfinger

4. Live And Let Die

5. For Your Eyes Only

[gingerjon]

10 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Connery set the style. Lazenby was better than some people like to suggest. Roger Moore made it more frivolous. Timothy Dalton tried to make his character more like the one in the books. Pierce Brosnan started pretty well but the movies weren't always up to scratch. Daniel Craig was the first of the "let's rip off the Bourne movies" Bonds.

If you haven't already, it's worth locating the radio versions the BBC did not that long ago.

They do a lot about making the character match the books.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

5 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Connery set the style. Lazenby was better than some people like to suggest. Roger Moore made it more frivolous. Timothy Dalton tried to make his character more like the one in the books. Pierce Brosnan started pretty well but the movies weren't always up to scratch. Daniel Craig was the first of the "let's rip off the Bourne movies" Bonds.

That is pretty much my feelings towards each Bond. 

Connery is the iconic one who was a great actor and was treated to some brilliant films (aside from Diamonds which was excrement). 

Lazenby would be considered a much better Bond if he had done even just one more film. He wasn't the best actor but he certainly wasn't atrocious and as I've just pointed out above, his film is my favourite one. 

Moore was the first to take the series in a different direction of course with the obvious comedy elements, which whole not to my taste, do still make for some enjoyable films. Some are ridiculous but they know they are and play to that which is fine. 

You're completely correct saying Dalton tried to play the character like the original written by Fleming, he gets it just right and would be considered much better had everyone's image of Bond not been set by Connery. I personally love Dalton and it was a shame he didn't do more. 

Brosnan was fine, got nothing against him, as you say his films let him down. Goldeneye is good, the premise of Tomorrow Never Dies I personally think is a really good idea but it was executed badly. The World is Not Enough has a ridiculously convoluted story and is just a very boring film in which not a lot happens and Die Another Day is the worst film ever made. 

Craig. As I've said, I really like Casino Royale, went back to a more understated, quieter tone after the Brosnan action films, the rest of Craig's films though. Oh no. 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

4 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Theme tunes 

1. Nobody Does It Better

2. Diamonds Are Forever 

3. Goldfinger

4. Live And Let Die

5. For Your Eyes Only

Hmm, interesting category... Tough decision for the top spot... 

1. For Your Eyes Only

2. A View to a Kill

3. The Living Daylights

4. Live And Let Die

5. Thunderball

[DavidM]

3 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

Hmm, interesting category... Tough decision for the top spot... 

1. For Your Eyes Only

2. A View to a Kill

3. The Living Daylights

4. Live And Let Die

5. Thunderball

I’ve been working on my Bond girl category and narrowed it down to Shirley Eaton , Tanya Roberts , Maud Adams, Britt Ekland , Daniela Bianchi , Claudine Auger , Madeleine Smith , Barbara Bach , Corinne Clery ( helicopter pilot in moonraker ) , Carole Bouquet , and the one who tries to crush bond with her thighs … but this is preliminary and I need to do much more research 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

3 minutes ago, DavidM said:

I’ve been working on my Bond girl category and narrowed it down to Shirley Eaton , Tanya Roberts , Maud Adams, Britt Ekland , Daniela Bianchi , Claudine Auger , Madeleine Smith , Barbara Bach , Corinne Clery ( helicopter pilot in moonraker ) , Carole Bouquet , and the one who tries to crush bond with her thighs … but this is preliminary and I need to do much more research 

Yeah, can never do too much research when it comes to Bond girls, particular study is needed of beach and underwater scenes, pausing and zooming in is key in these situations.

Before really thinking too much about a ranking for that category I will say that I have always adored and very much been in love with Claudine Auger right from when I was a kid and saw that film for the first time.

What I will say as well is the WORST Bond girl is without a doubt Denise Richards. One of the world's worst actresses playing a hotpant wearing nuclear scientist, yeah that's believable... Closely followed by Halle Berry who for God knows what reason was in the NSA not the CIA and would be stuck behind a desk playing on a computer not running round in the field.