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17 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

The Craig era is far more true to the books I feel. Which would be fine if the books weren't terrible... 

There is truth in your words

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15 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

Your last paragraph there is pretty much the opinion of most of us obsessives and quite frankly I hope to God they do go back down the root of standalone, simple films. A megalomaniac wants to take over the world, Bond walks into M's office, gets an assignment to stop the nutter, goes to an exotic location, meets a halfwit but attractive woman, investigates the nutcase, stops the nutcase, credits roll. Let's stop all this experimenting that just has not worked and start making some traditional Bond films again! 

One thing I'll say on that without getting into the quality of the films - the Craig films have made the most money accounted for inflation since Connery. Craig has rejuvinated the franchise with the highest grossing film of the entire franchise with only quantum of Solace sitting outside the top 10. Brosnan's films before him performed woefully (Brosnans best performing film, Die Another Day, sits at 13th highest gross) so in that respect, the Craig Bond films and what they do are a complete success and might form the template going forward - interlinked series of films.

Alternatively the Craig films could be a proverbial palate cleanser that allows them to go back to stand alone films. I think you can say for certain that the days of Bond bedding everybody he can are probably behind us. The world has changed to much.

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Dune (2021)

Yes, of course it's too long! This is the 21st Century, after all, and if you want those sweet sweet shiny awards, you need length as much as quality. Lots of brooding, thousand-yard stares to pad out the running time, like everything else these days. Likewise the desaturated colour palette; another guide to illustrious judging panels that this is a Terribly Serious Movie.

However, this really is pretty damn good. The score and the general sound design really works with this movie. The mixture of physical and digital effects, of course, blows previous adaptations out of the water.

I am now imagining a time-travelling ideal cast, from this and David Lynch's version.

  • Leto: Jurgen Prochnow - Oscar Isaac is just too young for the part.
  • Jessica - a tie, both are excellent.
  • Paul - close, but Chalumet edges it.
  • Duncan Idaho - always Richard Jordan, even though Jason Momoa does a good job.
  • Gurney Halleck - anyone but Patrick Stewart! As wrong a casting as you could imagine, despite his talent. However, Josh Brolin does reminds me of Rhod Gilbert.
  • Reverend Mother Mohiam - both magnificently cold and calculating.
  • Thufir Hawat - Stephen Henderson.
  • The Baron - Stellan Skarsgard, by a mile.
  • Rabban - a tie, again. Two magnificent brutes who love their job.
  • Dr Kynes - Max von Sydow makes this an unfair contest.
  • Stilgar - again, too close to call.
  • Chani - I'm scared Sean Young will hunt me down and kill me if I don't choose her.
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On 27/10/2021 at 20:19, Futtocks said:

Dune (2021)

Yes, of course it's too long! This is the 21st Century, after all, and if you want those sweet sweet shiny awards, you need length as much as quality. Lots of brooding, thousand-yard stares to pad out the running time, like everything else these days. Likewise the desaturated colour palette; another guide to illustrious judging panels that this is a Terribly Serious Movie.

However, this really is pretty damn good. The score and the general sound design really works with this movie. The mixture of physical and digital effects, of course, blows previous adaptations out of the water.

I am now imagining a time-travelling ideal cast, from this and David Lynch's version.

  • Leto: Jurgen Prochnow - Oscar Isaac is just too young for the part.
  • Jessica - a tie, both are excellent.
  • Paul - close, but Chalumet edges it.
  • Duncan Idaho - always Richard Jordan, even though Jason Momoa does a good job.
  • Gurney Halleck - anyone but Patrick Stewart! As wrong a casting as you could imagine, despite his talent. However, Josh Brolin does reminds me of Rhod Gilbert.
  • Reverend Mother Mohiam - both magnificently cold and calculating.
  • Thufir Hawat - Stephen Henderson.
  • The Baron - Stellan Skarsgard, by a mile.
  • Rabban - a tie, again. Two magnificent brutes who love their job.
  • Dr Kynes - Max von Sydow makes this an unfair contest.
  • Stilgar - again, too close to call.
  • Chani - I'm scared Sean Young will hunt me down and kill me if I don't choose her.

I have to disagree, it was dull, confused, tedious and boring. It's like Avatar in that the praise is all about how good it looked not how good the story was.

There was not a single character with any redeeming features, from spoilt rich kid Timothe Shalamay to the old woman in a veil who may be a witch or something.

For a supposed Hard SciFi story there was a stupid amount of magic involved and stupid plot points like humanity has reached a point where it can travel through interstellar space but chooses to go to war with knives and swords, the story is given an attempted solemnity by ludicrous sounding organisations like the Guild of Space Monkeys and House of Fraser making war on the House of Fun or whatever they were called with the connivance of the Imperium. 

It had so many plot holes in it you could drive a sand worm through it.

All in all nearly three hours of my life I'm never going to get back.

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The Forgotten Battle (Netflix)

A very good WW11 film based on the battle for the Scheldt, a Dutch production with subtitles from the Dutch & German.

The plot is strong, links a story from both a soldiers and a civilains perspective, with non of the faux hollywood glory.

 

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1 hour ago, Shadow said:

I have to disagree, it was dull, confused, tedious and boring. It's like Avatar in that the praise is all about how good it looked not how good the story was.

There was not a single character with any redeeming features, from spoilt rich kid Timothe Shalamay to the old woman in a veil who may be a witch or something.

For a supposed Hard SciFi story there was a stupid amount of magic involved and stupid plot points like humanity has reached a point where it can travel through interstellar space but chooses to go to war with knives and swords, the story is given an attempted solemnity by ludicrous sounding organisations like the Guild of Space Monkeys and House of Fraser making war on the House of Fun or whatever they were called with the connivance of the Imperium. 

It had so many plot holes in it you could drive a sand worm through it.

All in all nearly three hours of my life I'm never going to get back.

I was looking forward to going to the pictures this week until I read that, my worry is that after reading the book (which is fantastic) I'm going to be disappointed 

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On 30/10/2021 at 23:30, voteronniegibbs said:

The Forgotten Battle (Netflix)

A very good WW11 film based on the battle for the Scheldt, a Dutch production with subtitles from the Dutch & German.

The plot is strong, links a story from both a soldiers and a civilains perspective, with non of the faux hollywood glory.

 

I enjoyed it. easy watching.

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On 30/10/2021 at 22:12, Shadow said:

I have to disagree, it was dull, confused, tedious and boring. It's like Avatar in that the praise is all about how good it looked not how good the story was.

There was not a single character with any redeeming features, from spoilt rich kid Timothe Shalamay to the old woman in a veil who may be a witch or something.

For a supposed Hard SciFi story there was a stupid amount of magic involved and stupid plot points like humanity has reached a point where it can travel through interstellar space but chooses to go to war with knives and swords, the story is given an attempted solemnity by ludicrous sounding organisations like the Guild of Space Monkeys and House of Fraser making war on the House of Fun or whatever they were called with the connivance of the Imperium. 

It had so many plot holes in it you could drive a sand worm through it.

All in all nearly three hours of my life I'm never going to get back.

I mean, that's Dune. If you think Paul is irredeemable now, I'd definitely stop watching now.

As for the thing about bullets - did you miss the entire thing about the shields? Bullets and projectiles are entirely useless.

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11 minutes ago, andyscoot said:

I mean, that's Dune. If you think Paul is irredeemable now, I'd definitely stop watching now.

As for the thing about bullets - did you miss the entire thing about the shields? Bullets and projectiles are entirely useless.

I think that decision has already been made. 

Bullets and projectiles are useless apart from the little stabby dart type of projectile that got the big beardy bloke, Paul's dad? 

I may have been asleep for that bit. 

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2 hours ago, Shadow said:

I think that decision has already been made. 

Bullets and projectiles are useless apart from the little stabby dart type of projectile that got the big beardy bloke, Paul's dad? 

I may have been asleep for that bit. 

Well I don't want to spoil anything and I don't think we'll get this far in the films but his character becomes responsible for some real bad stuff. He's a very flawed character and theres a lot more nuance than you might be expecting.

As for the dart, it's established the shield blocks fast moving objects, hence using swords in the first place.

Dune is not known for it's story but it's world building, similar to Tolkien's writing. It's definitely not for everyone, and I consider it a small miracle in screenwriting that the film is as coherent as it is considering the density of the books. You only have to look at the David Lynch version to see what it could have been. Can't win em all, eh?

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1 hour ago, andyscoot said:

Well I don't want to spoil anything and I don't think we'll get this far in the films but his character becomes responsible for some real bad stuff. He's a very flawed character and theres a lot more nuance than you might be expecting.

As for the dart, it's established the shield blocks fast moving objects, hence using swords in the first place.

Dune is not known for it's story but it's world building, similar to Tolkien's writing. It's definitely not for everyone, and I consider it a small miracle in screenwriting that the film is as coherent as it is considering the density of the books. You only have to look at the David Lynch version to see what it could have been. Can't win em all, eh?

I didn't like Lord of the Rings either. Or Game of Thrones. 

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terrifier - a gory horror based on the geranged clown theme - rather sick and gory if u like that sort of thing 

did the bloke who invented the phrase "one hit wonder" invent anything else?

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6 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

On SKYs Xmas film channel ( already ) , Die Hard , best Xmas movie ever 😉

What, while this exists?

Okay, yes, you have a point.

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12 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

On SKYs Xmas film channel ( already ) , Die Hard , best Xmas movie ever 😉

If I put that on our telly the wife would chop my goolies off ….. again.  She has a pathological hatred of Bruce Willis and his dirty vest.  At the pub last Tuesday she was telling a friend how she can’t stand Willis and Stallone because they both wear dirty vests on screen 😳😳

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Few people reel off anecdotes as effortlessly as Peter O'Toole.

 

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18 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

On SKYs Xmas film channel ( already ) , Die Hard , best Xmas movie ever 😉

Oh good I can bore you for ages telling you how it was made after I watched Movies That Made Us on Netflix … last night it was Halloween , only £300000 budget and an unhappy Donald Pleasance who thought it was rubbish and drank a lot 

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Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. I'm not a die-hard Marvel fan, so I know nothing about the character or the story.

However, I am enjoying the action a lot, and also laughing my shiny metal ass off, especially at Awkwafina's fish-out-of-water jokes, and Ben Kingsley's cameo as a ramblingly detached Scouse thespian.

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