Allora Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 10:55 AM, Big Picture said: The flaw in that argument is that those are tiny countries, in world terms equivalent to the likes of Malta, Cyprus and Iceland, so playing there is never going to be financially viable. And third world economies where many / most are subsistence farmers Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audois Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 30/04/2018 at 12:00 PM, scotchy1 said: Do other sports have two full test sides for the same nation running at the same time? France did this season against All Blacks in Lyon midweek. Some subs from the weekend Test featured. Full house too. Caps not awarded. "It involves matters much greater than drafting the new rules...the original and existing games have their own powerful appeal to their players and public and have the sentiments which history inspires" - Harold 'Jersey' Flegg 1933 "Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart." - Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959 Si tu( Remi Casty) devais envoyer un fax au Président Guasch? " Un grand bravo pour ce que vous avez fait,et merci de m 'avoir embarqué dans cette aventure" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B rad Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 7:39 AM, Man of Kent said: Great stuff. Future England players get valuable experience of touring, not to mention unique memories. No Knights in the European Championship, by the way. Are they been replaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B rad Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Something to consider, with a population of 4.6 million Rugby Union mad New Zealand have created one of the most respected prestigious international teams on earth with the All Blacks. Rugby League mad PNG has a population 8 million, what kind of team could they create if they had proper development strategies in place. The potential is this nation is enormous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, B rad said: Are they been replaced? Nope. No need as they are now also World Cup Qualifying matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZH Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Full test status or not. Its still a strong team full of SL players that PNG fans will be interested in watching. We should get a very competitive (couldnt necesarily say that for a full England team) and entertaining series that will benefit both nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZH Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 2 hours ago, B rad said: Something to consider, with a population of 4.6 million Rugby Union mad New Zealand have created one of the most respected prestigious international teams on earth with the All Blacks. Rugby League mad PNG has a population 8 million, what kind of team could they create if they had proper development strategies in place. The potential is this nation is enormous. However strong and iconic the PNG brand became they would need the international game to grow massively to give them anything like the worldwide recognition the all blacks get. The Kangaroos and their green and gold are iconic in RL circles and are far stronger and more dominant in their own sport than the all blacks. They probably arent even a 10th as well known though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 4 hours ago, B rad said: Something to consider, with a population of 4.6 million Rugby Union mad New Zealand have created one of the most respected prestigious international teams on earth with the All Blacks. Rugby League mad PNG has a population 8 million, what kind of team could they create if they had proper development strategies in place. The potential is this nation is enormous. You are comparing NZ to PNG? The All Blacks are Legends in their code. PNG is a third World Country that in many ways is a Tribal community. Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henage Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 2 hours ago, MZH said: However strong and iconic the PNG brand became they would need the international game to grow massively to give them anything like the worldwide recognition the all blacks get. The Kangaroos and their green and gold are iconic in RL circles and are far stronger and more dominant in their own sport than the all blacks. They probably arent even a 10th as well known though. Best give up then . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZH Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 2 hours ago, henage said: Best give up then . PNG cant become a huge global brand like the All Blacks simply by "having proper development strategies in place." Even if PNG suddenly became a powerhouse of RL that could dominate the other top nations. It would need the sport to grow enormously around the world to even come close to what the All Blacks are. To suggest otherwise is a nice thought. But also a fairly daft one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost crayfish Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 6 hours ago, B rad said: Something to consider, with a population of 4.6 million Rugby Union mad New Zealand have created one of the most respected prestigious international teams on earth with the All Blacks. Rugby League mad PNG has a population 8 million, what kind of team could they create if they had proper development strategies in place. The potential is this nation is enormous. You want proper rugby league development strategies in place across a nation that still has cannibalism? I'm all for PNG rugby league, but let's be realistic... Ireckon PNG might have a bit of ground to make up on NZ in a few other areas before their league team can try to match the sporting achievements of the All Blacks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B rad Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 11 hours ago, MZH said: The Kangaroos and their green and gold are iconic in RL circles and are far stronger and more dominant in their own sport than the all blacks That's actually not true. The All Blacks have a win loss ratio of 77% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_national_rugby_union_team While the Kangaroos have win ratio of 67% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_national_rugby_league_team 11 hours ago, MZH said: However strong and iconic the PNG brand became they would need the international game to grow massively to give them anything like the worldwide recognition the all blacks get. This is true how ever 9 hours ago, Allora said: You are comparing NZ to PNG? The All Blacks are Legends in their code. PNG is a third World Country that in many ways is a Tribal community. I just said they have similar amounts of passion for their supported sports and PNG has double the amount of population thus has enormous potential. Is there something false to that statement? 7 hours ago, ghost crayfish said: You want proper rugby league development strategies in place across a nation that still has cannibalism? I'm all for PNG rugby league, but let's be realistic... Ireckon PNG might have a bit of ground to make up on NZ in a few other areas before their league team can try to match the sporting achievements of the All Blacks... I don't think there is much if any cannibalism in PNG these days. Sure there is a ton of work that would need to be done and realistically that probably will never happen, but I was saying PNG match NZ in passion for Rugby League as NZ's passion for Rugby Union and has twice the population. Point been if someone did put money into that place they have a lot of potential to be able to produce a great side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner80 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 PNG can't be compared to NZ as economies are so so different. Also RL Is alot newer to PNG than RU is to NZ. I think PNG can get better however the key to that is more NRL /SL players as the coaching in PNG is not going to be what is needed for elite players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_57 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 A Hunters/PNG junior side/s playing in the top QLD junior comps could be absolutely huge for them long term. Reality is PNG becoming a powerhouse is reliant on getting their best juniors to Australia/NZ/England in decent numbers. If done right PNG (and the pacific Islands) could become a 4th major player source for the NRL along with NSW, QLD & NZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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