The Voodooguru Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Surely the BOD have to go on a major charm offensive now and get the "in it together" mentality going to try and keep their heads above water for the short term. The next step is a players wage cut and any other unpopular cost cutting that has to happen. Hard to tell where the truth lies in this whole fiasco. I have had reservations about the mystery consortium that appeared out of the blue, but I wouldn't have any faith in some of their BOD. I wouldnt let TT run the bank at a game of monopoly . The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong, but thats the way to bet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anok4u Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, notasdaftasilook said: #haven2019 Wouldn't be surprised,when is this going to be seen as cheating? Paying for players you cant afford(how many times have we said how do they afford it?)and they get people to feel sorry for them costing Town in the process ie Doncaster subsidising their supporters. I dont want to see them disappear before the jam mafia arrive but ffs stop taking the pi$$ like.... go **** yasell ya little **** gain NL1 then take ya **** out ya dads **** then speak proper rugby talk. you jameating little spotty ****...itchy waa waa 2008... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notasdaftasilook Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 If they don’t ask players for a cut they’re taking the mick out of loyal supporters. When we were in bother we did and some of the players revolted and hated the club for it. If they’ve any business nous they have to though not sure they have though as they’re extending the 10 quid offer which won’t generate any extra fans as has been proved but will just reduce income Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hate the rec Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Ye give the players a pay cut and let's see how loyal and playing for the badge means then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonky Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Nothing like a bit of emotional blackmail in that press release the futures bright,the futures blue and white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun mc Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Sounds like there is an important bill Haven have to pay in the statement. The importance they have put on it probably means its HMRC or VAT, that they can't avoid. They may already be behind in payments Forster and others have said that all players have been and and in full, which probably means other creditors haven't. As a few have said already on here it will need a pay cut for the players from now, which is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearintown Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 39 minutes ago, wonky said: Nothing like a bit of emotional blackmail in that press release But would Haven2019 honour the season tickets? Would create a major financial black hole letting a couple in on money already spent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTownie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I’d be surprised if they players have already been paid this month. Friday is probably pay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notasdaftasilook Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 That’ll be why they’ve give Thursday as the cash back deadline #quickquid loan ‘ I’ve got it covered ‘ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonky Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 If they manage to survive this year, with the investors now pulling the plug, and haven having to use next years season ticket sales to survive this year, what on earth are they going to do next season. the futures bright,the futures blue and white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTownie Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Their only option (if this charade is true and not an emotional blackmail ploy) unless they get a big sum of money is CVA/liquidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 After appealing to local businesses , fans etc to bail them out then going into administration and cutting them all loose would be really awful ... then pop back up and say support us and give us money again , let’s move on . This whole mismanagement over quite some time really is very poor seemingly on a lot of speculation and hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old standoff Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Saying on radio the reason for pulling the plug on the deal was no full financial disclosure by Haven and a paranoia of them planning to merge them with Town.So if they would rather run the risk of going bust than even contemplate a merger they must sure hate us with a passion and find it difficult to have any sympathy really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, DavidM said: After appealing to local businesses , fans etc to bail them out then going into administration and cutting them all loose would be really awful ... then pop back up and say support us and give us money again , let’s move on . This whole mismanagement over quite some time really is very poor seemingly on a lot of speculation and hope It seems we were right about last seasons "s*** or bust" spending, and as much as I have sympathy for the fans the board have got no one to blame other than themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, dkw said: It seems we were right about last seasons "s*** or bust" spending, and as much as I have sympathy for the fans the board have got no one to blame other than themselves. Indeed , didn’t they even say more than once everything was into getting promotion . It’s like a big stakes gamble which in running a club / business really does seem strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notasdaftasilook Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 So we should praise our board for the approach last year. They got a bit of stick but it was the right thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginock1 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 When you see the constraints our board had to work under and are still working through after the pay cut season / scenario you got to applaud every single one of them whether still here or not on the board. To diligently work through that tough year, accept that we weren't going to be top end side,take the knocks and work through the debtors and show a more proactive longer term view shows true humility and I have no sympathy for the actions of the board down the road. Some legacy their going to leave. Disgraceful practice and they should barred from being directors of any company. I remember that heavy defeat by haven at home in the 8s, it was absolute torture to watch to the bitter end but the sacrifices like that will make the successes mean that much more. Let's rally round our club once more and help push us on into the playoffs. There is a lot of good folk deserve it down there. Utt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Absolutely , since we came down and reassessed they’ve been excellent in using common sense , perspective and planning out to the medium and longer term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberisgod Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 33 minutes ago, Ginock1 said: When you see the constraints our board had to work under and are still working through after the pay cut season / scenario you got to applaud every single one of them whether still here or not on the board. To diligently work through that tough year, accept that we weren't going to be top end side,take the knocks and work through the debtors and show a more proactive longer term view shows true humility and I have no sympathy for the actions of the board down the road. Some legacy their going to leave. Disgraceful practice and they should barred from being directors of any company. I remember that heavy defeat by haven at home in the 8s, it was absolute torture to watch to the bitter end but the sacrifices like that will make the successes mean that much more. Let's rally round our club once more and help push us on into the playoffs. There is a lot of good folk deserve it down there. Utt Excellent post mate.Hitting the nail right on the head.Their bod has been reckless with the lack of financial nous.Could they not see it coming ,we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillmeister Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 The difference is that we have a BOD who understand rugby league as a sport and how it has to be run from a business point of view It seems like theyre only scratching the surface of the true financial position theyre in at Haven and some kind of Insolvency event seems inevitable Forget Chuck and Chad I am the real legend killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 6/26/2018 at 9:31 AM, Chrome Dome said: Yep loyalty to Town prevails. And I had hair when the 'M' word surfaced....been through it all so many many times....the same old arguments just recycle. Let me add I would love a billionaire to fund a top west Cumbrian outfit..but it's always a dream. As for your ref, in brackets, to " concessionary ticket prices" it's something for you to look forward to.... Apologies CD and possibly Unicorn for the assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Well at least Marrafan and Unicorn have found common ground which is nice but I just don't get your determination to watch both teams fade away. Maybe you might both be right and in the long run and 'we're all doomed' but surely some change would generate new momentum and as the old adage goes "better to have tried and failed than not tried at all" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rango Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Thought a few of the whitehaven directors might have tried to oust the chairman over this debacle. He’s not popular with anyone it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieTownie Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 hours ago, DavidM said: Indeed , didn’t they even say more than once everything was into getting promotion . It’s like a big stakes gamble which in running a club / business really does seem strange Unfortunately an insane hatred of Town has driven them to act irresponsibly in a desperat attempt to constantly get one over on us. Youve got to feel for players like Shacks who was given a 5 year deal and who has kids and possibly may have budgeted his own life around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Why should anyone fell sorry for any player who has followed the money train, at the end of the day the vast majority of the players are in it for the money and will go to the highest bidder, and anyone who thinks different is a fool, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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