16 Aug: Super 8s: Wakefield Trinity v St Helens KO 7.45pm (TV)

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

 

8 hours ago, Old Frightful said:

And where is Kirmonds Pouch?

FFS let it go.

[Old Frightful]

1 minute ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said:

 

FFS let it go.

Sorry 

[Kenilworth Tiger]

Thought Wakey looked OK last night as did Saints - certainly didn't look like one of the teams was flying high at the top of the league.

10 minute burst before half time killed Wakey

[Saint Toppy]

Much improved performance from Saints but still a long way from where they were earlier in the year. Still dropping too much ball and giving away silly penalties. 

Still have major concerns with some of the pack, Amor and Douglas were awful again and it's a good job Thompson will be back for the next game.

Our right edge looked vulnerable again with Costello making a few bad reads but Morgan should also be back against the pies.

On a slightly different note. Why have they changes the video ref intervention rules? 

There was a clear case last night for them to intervene when LMS was kicked. It wasn't deliberate but was dangerous play and should have been a penalty at the very least and probably a yellow card.

[Eleftherios]

Disappointing performance by Trinity, some really poor decision making and poor "tackling". Can't afford to give anyone 16 points start let alone Saints. Well played Saints, gave us a lesson in patience and speed. 

[ivans82]

Great game for us neutrals , a bit of everything , Ashworth turned the game first half after Wakefield had all the play but couldn`t get on the scoreboard .

[Dreadnoughts back please]

1 hour ago, Saint Toppy said:

 

On a slightly different note. Why have they changes the video ref intervention rules? 

There was a clear case last night for them to intervene when LMS was kicked. It wasn't deliberate but was dangerous play and should have been a penalty at the very least and probably a yellow card.

Agree with that apart from the yellow card, I was at the game so I didn't have the pleasure of the explanation about the video ref intervening. There was a wild pass to in to touch from Trin in the second half which the ref thought saints had touched so he gave a scrum to Trin, but then reversed it after appearing to check with the VR because saints didn't touch it, did he check VR? Is that allowed?

 

[bobbruce]

3 hours ago, Saint Toppy said:

Much improved performance from Saints but still a long way from where they were earlier in the year. Still dropping too much ball and giving away silly penalties. 

Still have major concerns with some of the pack, Amor and Douglas were awful again and it's a good job Thompson will be back for the next game.

Our right edge looked vulnerable again with Costello making a few bad reads but Morgan should also be back against the pies.

On a slightly different note. Why have they changes the video ref intervention rules? 

There was a clear case last night for them to intervene when LMS was kicked. It wasn't deliberate but was dangerous play and should have been a penalty at the very least and probably a yellow card.

I think it’s a rule they’ve brought in from the NRL were the video ref will only intervene if it’s an offence worthy of a card. The reason for it is to stop players feeling the slightest touch to their face and staying down to win a penalty. 

[zorquif]

3 hours ago, Saint Toppy said:

There was a clear case last night for them to intervene when LMS was kicked. It wasn't deliberate but was dangerous play and should have been a penalty at the very least and probably a yellow card.

I promise I am not trolling here, but why should it be a penny if it wasn't deliberate? If you drop on a ball at a very kickable height, might you not expect a kick? I understand that players have a duty of care to each other, but don't they have a duty of care to themselves?

[Saint Toppy]

1 hour ago, zorquif said:

I promise I am not trolling here, but why should it be a penny if it wasn't deliberate? If you drop on a ball at a very kickable height, might you not expect a kick? I understand that players have a duty of care to each other, but don't they have a duty of care to themselves?

You can't kick an opponent in RL,  accidental or not it's classed as foul play. He may have intended to kick the ball but he didn't (he was nowhere near)  he just kicked LMS in the shoulder. 

In some respects it's similar to high tackles,  most aren't deliberate but when they happen they're classed as foul play and worthy of a penalty or more.

[Davc1h]

18 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said:

You can't kick an opponent in RL,  accidental or not it's classed as foul play. He may have intended to kick the ball but he didn't (he was nowhere near)  he just kicked LMS in the shoulder. 

In some respects it's similar to high tackles,  most aren't deliberate but when they happen they're classed as foul play and worthy of a penalty or more.

Should have been a penalty nothing more IMO.

Do you think he will get a visit to the disciplinary though?