Tim Streets tache Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Is there any other sport where fans are more obsessed with attendances than Rugby League??? I find it really bizarre. Look at any sort of debate.... forums....social media etc. You'll always see crowds brought up. I seriously think that some fans would rather have a large attendance than win a game! I work with a fella who gets the League Express every Monday and reads out the attendances before the scores! Very, very weird mentality. Clubs make very little on the gate compared to the tv deal- lots of fans find this hard to fathom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunsletgreenandgold Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, Tim Streets tache said: Is there any other sport where fans are more obsessed with attendances than Rugby League??? I find it really bizarre. Look at any sort of debate.... forums....social media etc. You'll always see crowds brought up. I seriously think that some fans would rather have a large attendance than win a game! I work with a fella who gets the League Express every Monday and reads out the attendances before the scores! Very, very weird mentality. Clubs make very little on the gate compared to the tv deal- lots of fans find this hard to fathom! You tell me how many sports are successful with no fans? Attendance figures are seen by many people as a temperature check for the health of the game. I agree it's not quite as black and white as that but there is certainly a correlation that can be drawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Streets tache Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Tennis Just now, hunsletgreenandgold said: You tell me how many sports are successful with no fans? Attendance figures are seen by many people as a temperature check for the health of the game. I agree it's not quite as black and white as that but there is certainly a correlation that can be drawn. Tennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunsletgreenandgold Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tim Streets tache said: Tennis That's not entirely true though is it - all the 4 'Majors' have large attendances as do many of the ATP tour events. Also, if you're going to try and draw parallel i'd suggest that can only really be done with other team sports. I should've maybe clarified that in my last post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Streets tache Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 I get what you mean, i really do. My rant is more at the people that think that it is the be all and all all though. For example: The folk who moan that the only team (Toronto) that seem to have any marketing nous, own tv deal, decent brands sponsoring them, genuine business mold....Shouldn't be in Super League because they don't bring many away fans!! Utterly bizarre. Also those that think that the league table should be determined by average attendance rather than what goes on on the pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELBOWSEYE Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Bournemouth had ten thousand on Monday in the fabled Premier league and there was no mention of it in the press or TV, on here we would have over fifty pages on a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Streets tache Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, ELBOWSEYE said: Bournemouth had ten thousand on Monday in the fabled Premier league and there was no mention of it in the press or TV, on here we would have over fifty pages on a thread. Spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Coast Tiger Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, ELBOWSEYE said: Bournemouth had ten thousand on Monday in the fabled Premier league and there was no mention of it in the press or TV, on here we would have over fifty pages on a thread. If a southern RL club got 10k to a game there certainly would be 50 pages. And probably a unicorn. Guyra Super Spuds website Guyra Super Spuds Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelaide Tiger Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 40 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said: You tell me how many sports are successful with no fans? Attendance figures are seen by many people as a temperature check for the health of the game. I agree it's not quite as black and white as that but there is certainly a correlation that can be drawn. The County Championship ..... next question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dixiedean Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, ELBOWSEYE said: Bournemouth had ten thousand on Monday in the fabled Premier league and there was no mention of it in the press or TV, on here we would have over fifty pages on a thread. Isn't that capacity, or close to it? They were a fourth tier club recently. Anyway, a fair few football forums are taken up having a go at City, West Ham and Arsenal for empty seats at games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Adelaide Tiger said: The County Championship ..... next question! Sorry, not a sport! Cricket attracts good crowds for other forms of the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 16 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 The number of RL fans who are obsessed with attendance figures is down 15% on last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunsletgreenandgold Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Adelaide Tiger said: The County Championship ..... next question! Really, you think the county championship is successful? Test county sides get a leg up and none test counties rely heavily on T20 money....from the huge crowds they get in comparison to the 4 day games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Is there a rugby league chairman who has stated anywhere, ever in time, that crowds are unimportant to their club? Attendances matter in rugby league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelaide Tiger Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, hunsletgreenandgold said: Really, you think the county championship is successful? Test county sides get a leg up and none test counties rely heavily on T20 money....from the huge crowds they get in comparison to the 4 day games Err just realised that I misread the initial question posed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damp squib Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 It's not a whole sport necessarily. It's anything that feels existential threat. Football is by far the world's most popular sport and yet the League of Ireland is horrendous for head counting because the league struggles. GAA get very healthy crowds but Dublin dominance has seen big event crowds down a little so this year had lots of head counting. Unfortunately Rugby League seems to be in a constant state of existential threat. Edit: also any sport or league in which tickets are a major source of income. Man City don't care about their relatively poor crowds because their attendance income is a drop in the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobbygobbler Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 The problem RL has unlike any other sport, is that poor crowds are used to beat it down by the generally anti-RL media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lobbygobbler said: The problem RL has unlike any other sport, is that poor crowds are used to beat it down by the generally anti-RL media. i find the people who are fans of RL use crowd numbers more to beat the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dave T said: i find the people who are fans of RL use crowd numbers more to beat the game Or just certain clubs or areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhw Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, Lobbygobbler said: The problem RL has unlike any other sport, is that poor crowds are used to beat it down by the generally anti-RL media. Low attendances are not very often commented on by the non-RL media. It is supported and funded by two of the three biggest media platforms outside of social media. Most of the beating down comes from the RL media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorbals Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Tim Streets tache said: Tennis Wimbledon alone sells nearly half a million tickets for a fortnight. Super League sell just over a million for the season. And I bet the prices at Wimbledon are a lot higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorbals Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Tim Streets tache said: I get what you mean, i really do. My rant is more at the people that think that it is the be all and all all though. For example: The folk who moan that the only team (Toronto) that seem to have any marketing nous, own tv deal, decent brands sponsoring them, genuine business mold....Shouldn't be in Super League because they don't bring many away fans!! Utterly bizarre. Also those that think that the league table should be determined by average attendance rather than what goes on on the pitch! Do either of those groups exist in real life though? Or is this a classic case of someone moaning about what they imagine other people might moan about? The Total RL pre-emptive moan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Most of the beating down comes from a vociferous minority on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Streets tache Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Gorbals said: Do either of those groups exist in real life though? Or is this a classic case of someone moaning about what they imagine other people might moan about? The Total RL pre-emptive moan! On this very forum pal. Isn't hard to find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorbals Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ELBOWSEYE said: Bournemouth had ten thousand on Monday in the fabled Premier league and there was no mention of it in the press or TV, on here we would have over fifty pages on a thread. Bournemouth didn't play on Monday. That said the stadium was well over 90% full and I doubt the tickets were on general sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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