DavidM Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 RTS wins Dally M edging out Ponga and Holmes . Smith and Seibold win captain and coach awards . Ferguson (wing) , Leilua ( centre ) , Munster (6) , Brooks (7), Fifita ( prop ) , Taumalolo ( lock ) ,Jackson ( second row ), Cook ( hooker ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Well done that man. Can't wait the see the BTS of RTS at the DallyM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Scubby said: Well done that man. Can't wait the see the BTS of RTS at the DallyM. I’m sure he went well OTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunsletgreenandgold Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, DavidM said: RTS wins Dally M edging out Ponga and Holmes . Smith and Seibold win captain and coach awards . Ferguson (wing) , Leilua ( centre ) , Munster (6) , Brooks (7), Fifita ( prop ) , Taumalolo ( lock ) ,Jackson ( second row ), Cook ( hooker ) Big fan of Joey Leilua but how Latrell Mitchell didn't get centre of the year is crazy?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said: Big fan of Joey Leilua but how Latrell Mitchell didn't get centre of the year is crazy?! Agreed . I think suspensions may play a part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latchford albion Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I haven't watched much NRL this year but Luke Brooks surprises me. We're always told that the Aussies are so much better in the halves than us, but if he is considered the best in his position in the NRL, then he must have come on a ton this season. "I'm a traditionalist and I don"t think you'd ever see me coaching an Australian national side!" Lee Radford, RLW March 2016 Proud to be a member of the TRL woke claque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmduck Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Here was the FoxSports poll from earlier this week. 80% voted for Latrell. 19 minutes ago, latchford albion said: I haven't watched much NRL this year but Luke Brooks surprises me. We're always told that the Aussies are so much better in the halves than us, but if he is considered the best in his position in the NRL, then he must have come on a ton this season. Well you are sort of right both times. I don't think he was the best but he certainly did improve a lot this year. The fans' poll rated him second, behind Cronk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DoubleD Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 26 minutes ago, latchford albion said: I haven't watched much NRL this year but Luke Brooks surprises me. We're always told that the Aussies are so much better in the halves than us, but if he is considered the best in his position in the NRL, then he must have come on a ton this season. Absolutely, he even got dropped at one stage. He seemed hit and miss when I saw him and his defence well, let’s just say it left a lot to be desired, so he was targeted regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, DavidM said: RTS wins Dally M edging out Ponga and Holmes . Smith and Seibold win captain and coach awards . Ferguson (wing) , Leilua ( centre ) , Munster (6) , Brooks (7), Fifita ( prop ) , Taumalolo ( lock ) ,Jackson ( second row ), Cook ( hooker ) Wasn’t there an Aussie poster on here who kept saying Fifita was rubbish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, DavidM said: RTS wins Dally M edging out Ponga and Holmes . Smith and Seibold win captain and coach awards . Ferguson (wing) , Leilua ( centre ) , Munster (6) , Brooks (7), Fifita ( prop ) , Taumalolo ( lock ) ,Jackson ( second row ), Cook ( hooker ) I’m guessing Jackson is in solely for his try scoring record as he certainly wasn’t the best second row. Cant believe Leilua was in ahead of Mitchell. Even think there’s others who have been better than him The top 3 have all been class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 22 minutes ago, DoubleD said: I’m guessing Jackson is in solely for his try scoring record as he certainly wasn’t the best second row. Cant believe Leilua was in ahead of Mitchell. Even think there’s others who have been better than him The top 3 have all been class I like Jackson and he’s been central in a poor side but I wouldn’t say this season has been his best by any means . Tariq Sims , Frizell , Kaufusi , Crichton all been performing at a high level in successful teams . No doubt Mitchell has been the best performing centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latchford albion Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 36 minutes ago, DoubleD said: Wasn’t there an Aussie poster on here who kept saying Fifita was rubbish? Probably when he opted for Tonga. "I'm a traditionalist and I don"t think you'd ever see me coaching an Australian national side!" Lee Radford, RLW March 2016 Proud to be a member of the TRL woke claque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmduck Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I forgot to add the link to the FoxSports poll earlier in the week: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/you-voted-fox-sports-fans-predicted-dally-m-team-of-the-year/news-story/27ff384060ac551df9f242a75eb5ba33 One of Latrell's problems is the voting system. If you have a 3,2,1 system and you are in a weak team you will get a lot of 3s but if you played in a strong team you might play 8/10 with 2 or 3 players who had a 9/10 game that day. Latrell, Tedesco and Ferguson can't all get 3 points every week whereas players like Klemmer didn't have much competition from their own teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, Farmduck said: I forgot to add the link to the FoxSports poll earlier in the week: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/you-voted-fox-sports-fans-predicted-dally-m-team-of-the-year/news-story/27ff384060ac551df9f242a75eb5ba33 One of Latrell's problems is the voting system. If you have a 3,2,1 system and you are in a weak team you will get a lot of 3s but if you played in a strong team you might play 8/10 with 2 or 3 players who had a 9/10 game that day. Latrell, Tedesco and Ferguson can't all get 3 points every week whereas players like Klemmer didn't have much competition from their own teammates. Am I right in thinking the 3-2-1 votes are only given per game and not for each team? If that is the case then a disadvantage of being in a weaker team is that the winning team would get the Dally M points more often than not. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmduck Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, Dunbar said: Am I right in thinking the 3-2-1 votes are only given per game and not for each team? If that is the case then a disadvantage of being in a weaker team is that the winning team would get the Dally M points more often than not. Yes, it's a 3,2,1 per game. Kalyn Ponga was only just pipped at the post by RTS though so it is possible for a good player in a weaker team to win. Remember Barry Russell? Nobody does. He won the Rothmans Medal (the old rival Dally M) in 1988. His whole career lasted less than 80 first grade games. He was also in a strong team which included Ettingshausen. Gavin Miller and Dane Sorensen, yet he managed to win. I think he must have been getting 1 point every week and the opposition and his teammates were sharing the 3 and 2 around evenly. Ettingshausen got 17 tries that year and played for OZ and NSW so he must have been in good form. Oddly, Gavin Miller won the Dally M that year so I don't know how 2 players in the same team could both score so highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, Farmduck said: Yes, it's a 3,2,1 per game. Kalyn Ponga was only just pipped at the post by RTS though so it is possible for a good player in a weaker team to win. Remember Barry Russell? Nobody does. He won the Rothmans Medal (the old rival Dally M) in 1988. His whole career lasted less than 80 first grade games. He was also in a strong team which included Ettingshausen. Gavin Miller and Dane Sorensen, yet he managed to win. I think he must have been getting 1 point every week and the opposition and his teammates were sharing the 3 and 2 around evenly. Ettingshausen got 17 tries that year and played for OZ and NSW so he must have been in good form. Oddly, Gavin Miller won the Dally M that year so I don't know how 2 players in the same team could both score so highly. Good point about Ponga... shows what a talent he is. As for 1988, Cronulla were the minor premiers so no surprise to see recognition for their players that year. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 On the team selected I would probably have gone with another 7 and second row but no real arguments. The one I don't understand is Leilua, I wouldn't have had him anywhere near this level, I thought he was pretty poor and I'll disciplined all year. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost crayfish Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 That's a bit of a strange team! I think Leilua has been hopeless, Brooks is improved but still average, and Fifita is nowhere near being a top quality consistent prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 17 minutes ago, ghost crayfish said: That's a bit of a strange team! I think Leilua has been hopeless, Brooks is improved but still average, and Fifita is nowhere near being a top quality consistent prop. As I pointed out in another thread, Fifita has the most tackle breaks, most offloads and 3rd highest run meters of all the props in the NRL this year. He may not be everybody's favourite player but there is no denying he is good at what props are supposed to do. Having said all that, I think David Klemmer has been far and away the best prop in the NRL this year. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmduck Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Baffling numbers behind Latrell Mitchell’s Dally M snub https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/only-5-votes-how-latrell-mitchells-dally-m-snub-happened/news-story/7784172f951e2881958a458b1e6bd6d2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmduck Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Dally M Medal tracker: Every vote, round by round https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/dally-m-medal-every-vote-round-by-round/news-story/5a635f0c1f00bf7bee2278dd5d622f01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost crayfish Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 15 hours ago, Dunbar said: As I pointed out in another thread, Fifita has the most tackle breaks, most offloads and 3rd highest run meters of all the props in the NRL this year. He may not be everybody's favourite player but there is no denying he is good at what props are supposed to do. Having said all that, I think David Klemmer has been far and away the best prop in the NRL this year. Yeah fair comment. He's a good player and capable of playing a blinder, but I just think he lets his team down a bit when he starts going across field or losing discipline. I also wonder if Gallen makes his job a little biy easier with all the tough yards he makes to get the momentum going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 stone giant Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Was Shek the guy that did that amazing bit of skill in the semi final against us (England) in 2013? Threw the ball back into play while in the air and over the touchline. That was top class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepimp007 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, 17 stone giant said: Was Shek the guy that did that amazing bit of skill in the semi final against us (England) in 2013? Threw the ball back into play while in the air and over the touchline. That was top class. Think it was Dean Whare who did that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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