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Rugby league has an ongoing issue with recreational drugs according to almost half of the players questioned on the subject in the 2018 Rugby League World players poll – while over three-quarters have no confidence in the sport’s hierarchy to drive the game forward. Almost 250 players responded to the latest annual players poll conducted by the magazine – which…

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I've been otherwise engaged for the last two days and not had the time to buy the latest Rugby Leaguer, just seen the headline about the RFL responding to a shock poll result - Can anyone enlighten me on the subject ? 


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In response to the anonymous players information in RLW magazine the RFL noted the information and were quoted that they themselves had conducted a survey of players at the end of the 2018 campain and 94% stated that they thought their clubs tried to prevent a Social and Non-Prescribed Prescription Drugs ( SNPPD) culture.

  They are working closely with the clubs,UK Anti-Doping,and with Sporting Chance charity.

  All clubs are required to deliver a workshop,before the season starts,on the RFL's  SNPPD  policy,and to hold a Sporting Chance workshop. 

 That process has already begun prior to the 2019 season.


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32 minutes ago, Angelic Cynic said:

In response to the anonymous players information in RLW magazine the RFL noted the information and were quoted that they themselves had conducted a survey of players at the end of the 2018 campain and 94% stated that they thought their clubs tried to prevent a Social and Non-Prescribed Prescription Drugs ( SNPPD) culture.

  They are working closely with the clubs,UK Anti-Doping,and with Sporting Chance charity.

  All clubs are required to deliver a workshop,before the season starts,on the RFL's  SNPPD  policy,and to hold a Sporting Chance workshop. 

 That process has already begun prior to the 2019 season.

What other outcomes came out of the poll ?


Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.

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17 minutes ago, Marauder said:

What other outcomes came out of the poll ?

Thats the money question. The players stated (from memory) that they had no confidence in the RFL being able to take the game forward. I've not seen an RFL response to this although it would be much more interesting than drugs 

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On 12/21/2018 at 10:59 PM, Total Rugby League said:

Rugby league has an ongoing issue with recreational drugs according to almost half of the players questioned on the subject in the 2018 Rugby League World players poll – while over three-quarters have no confidence in the sport’s hierarchy to drive the game forward. Almost 250 players responded to the latest annual players poll conducted by the magazine – which…

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Depends how you ask the question I guess!!! Perhaps a better question is ‘’does society have a problem with recreational drugs and how is this reflected in Rigby League?”

or “are recreational drugs a problem?” As clearly those who partake don’t think they are! 

 

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23 minutes ago, Wollongong said:

Depends how you ask the question I guess!!! Perhaps a better question is ‘’does society have a problem with recreational drugs and how is this reflected in Rigby League?”

or “are recreational drugs a problem?” As clearly those who partake don’t think they are! 

 

Most of the players are contracted and should be sacked if found to be taking drugs, as worrrying from a sport perspective is 77% don’t have faith in the RFL or SLE to take the game forward 

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Recreational marijuana use is perfectly legal in Canada now.

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That’s an interesting point- say Ashton Simms had a puff or two on canada but blood tests in the UK showed up a week later - what would the RFL and UKAD do then?

I suppose if the competition rules ban it so be it but UKAD might not have effect there 

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3 hours ago, John Rhino said:

Thats the money question. The players stated (from memory) that they had no confidence in the RFL being able to take the game forward. I've not seen an RFL response to this although it would be much more interesting than drugs 

I totally agree, and I can't see why players would in the poll bring up recreational drugs, are the RL using this as a smoke screen.

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Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.

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2 minutes ago, Kris said:

That’s an interesting point- say Ashton Simms had a puff or two on canada but blood tests in the UK showed up a week later - what would the RFL and UKAD do then?

I suppose if the competition rules ban it so be it but UKAD might not have effect there 

Laws of the game not the country. I've been present when they turn up to drug test, I was very impressed in the way they controlled the situation.

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Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.

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1 hour ago, Kris said:

That’s an interesting point- say Ashton Simms had a puff or two on canada but blood tests in the UK showed up a week later - what would the RFL and UKAD do then?

I suppose if the competition rules ban it so be it but UKAD might not have effect there 

It might be legal to have marijuana in Canada but a failed drug test is a failed drug test anywhere in the world no matter where you took the substance, taking steroids isn’t a criminal offence in the UK...

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10 hours ago, The Vet said:

It might be legal to have marijuana in Canada but a failed drug test is a failed drug test anywhere in the world no matter where you took the substance, taking steroids isn’t a criminal offence in the UK...

Also taking cough medicine is perfectly legal but the ingredients in some would see you receive a ban in most sports. 

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If you include binge drinking of alcohol in the debate would it be fair to say RL has a major issue with recreational substances legal and illegal and this Just mirrors society and the communities they come from?.......... Ie the issue is bigger than our sport, merely our sport is a window on it in the same way soccer and union are  etc etc. 

 

 

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For me it's an issue in society, not specifically in RL. Recreational drug use is much higher amongst young men than a lot of people realise. It stands to reason that this trend will be repeated in sport.

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2 hours ago, Southerner80 said:

If you include binge drinking of alcohol in the debate would it be fair to say RL has a major issue with recreational substances legal and illegal and this Just mirrors society and the communities they come from?.......... Ie the issue is bigger than our sport, merely our sport is a window on it in the same way soccer and union are  etc etc. 

 

 

I have said before that RL does in my opinion does have a huge problem with recreational substances, both legal and illegal. This survey simply confirms this. However as you allude to I really don't know if this is any worse than society as whole, I suspect not.

However the simple fact is that these are professional sportsmen. As such they can be banned for a lengthy period of time and their physical performance can be impacted by their actions and what they take. I also highly suspect that their contracts will explicitly prohibit such activities. Therefore it is only right that they are held to higher standards and saying that it's no different to wider society doesn't cut it with me. 

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Steroid possession for sale isnt legal but possession for personal use is - in the UK - but then using cannabis isnt illegal in Canada but is in the UK - so using cannabis in Canada must mean using it as a sports person isnt illegal in Canada - its not, as far as I know, performance enhancing, rather the opposite unless you are a competitive eater!

Still world drug testing is in place so I suppose this is covered by agreement? 

 

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7 hours ago, bobbruce said:

Also taking cough medicine is perfectly legal but the ingredients in some would see you receive a ban in most sports. 

Didn't a British skier loss a medal a few years ago because he bought a nasal spray in America which contained a banned substance and the British version didn't.


Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.

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As I pointed out in another thread, recreational marijuana use is perfectly legal in all parts of Canada.

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2 hours ago, Marauder said:

Didn't a British skier loss a medal a few years ago because he bought a nasal spray in America which contained a banned substance and the British version didn't.

Probably, the yanks would allow heroin in aspirin if it made more profit for their drugs companies.


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15 minutes ago, Padge said:

Probably, the yanks would allow heroin in aspirin if it made more profit for their drugs companies.

Alain Baxter (born 26 December 1973) is a British skier who was formerly a professional specialising in the slalom discipline. He is best known for failing a drug test after finishing third in the men's slalom of the 2002 Winter Olympics, resulting in him being controversially stripped of the bronze medal; he would have become the first Briton to win an Olympic medal in a skiing event. The use of a nasal inhaler purchased in the US had led to the presence of a banned substance in Baxter's urine. He was allowed to return to competition, although his appeal to have the medal reinstated failed. He competed in FIS events from 1991–2009 and became known as "The Highlander". In the World Cup events, he achieved eleven top-fifteen finishes and four top-ten results

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Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits.

http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/

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Clear as mud then. No problem. Over to you RL.

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I would say that at least half of all people surveyed from the general populous would say society as a whole has an issue/problem with illegal drugs, I don't see this as being anything of particular note.

Here's part of an article from the BBC from a few years back,  

More than 150 professional footballers are likely to be playing under the influence of performance-enhancing drugs, according to a study carried out by the BBC. And almost half of all players (46%) admit they know of a colleague who takes recreational drugs.

Drugs use among top English footballers

A decade ago, researchers got the support of the Professional Footballers’ Association to investigate drug use in English professional football (soccer), including what legal vitamin and minerals the players used, who they asked advice for before trying supplements, and what they knew about banned performance-enhancing and recreational drug use in the sport.

Reply-paid questionnaires were sent to all the players’ homes, and nearly 25% of them (706) came back. Recreational drug use proved to be widespread: 45% of the respondents indicated that they knew another player who used recreational drugs, versus just 6% who knew other players who used performance-enhancing drugs.

2017 survey says that 50% of amateur sports persons believe performance enhancing drugs are in use and same number believe are easily available. There's also evidence that suggests the premier league and soccer as a whole are not testing players very often. Ex Hull City player said he was tested 5 times in a 15 year career and only once during the premiership season he played in. Around a quarter of all English professional football players are never tested

Soccer seems to avoid these types of surveys because it tarnishes the sport. You hardly ever hear about drugs in the big sports like tennis, golf, F1 and soccer ... money talks!

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9 hours ago, Padge said:

Probably, the yanks would allow heroin in aspirin if it made more profit for their drugs companies.

Yes and no, we can buy stuff like Codine/Paracetamol over the counter over here in the UK. In the US no chance.

Unless you get a prescription then its a different story and you are right.

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