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Old men can’t do anything without getting hurt thread?

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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  Shadow Matt Santos Bedford Roughyed Wiltshire Rhino Gingerjon Moose Bob8 tim2 Saint 1 Canabull Niels
Week 1 93.5 116 156.5 135.6 84.9 66 78.9 76   98.88  
Week 2 93.5 116 155.4 134.26 89.9 66 83.9 76 82 96.61  
Week 3  93.1 115 155.6 131.1 82.55 66 88.9 76 87 97.39 72.57
Week 4 93.4 116 155.4 131.1 79.37 66 80.1 76 82.5 98.43 73.03
Week 5 93.1 116 154.3 132 79.37 66 78.4 74.5 82.5 95.7 73.94
Week 6 93.4 116 155.5 132 DNR 66 78.4 74.6 DNR 96.61 73.48
Week 7 92.5 116 154.9 132 DNR 65.5 79.1 "up a bit" DNR 95.03 74
Week 8 92.5 115 154 131.5 recovering 66 DNR 73.6 79.8 95.94 76
Week 9 91.8 Broken 152.6 131.5 recovering 66 (probably) DNR 73 78.5 96.61 75.6
                       
loss/gain -0.7   -1.4 0       -0.6 -1.3 0.67 -0.4
Titan  7.65   12.72 10.96   5.50   6.08 6.54 8.05 6.30
                   
                       
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4 minutes ago, Saint 1 said:

Rugby training Thursday, 2 hours of hot yoga Friday, full body gym and yoga Saturday, Sunday was easy gym and rugby, and this morning was lower body gym. 

Weight is down to 78.5kg now which is good, hoping to get leaner to improve my speed. Not really making an effort to lose weight, have just cut out some empty calories I had in my diet when I was trying to gain weight.

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4 minutes ago, Shadow said:
 
  Shadow Matt Santos Bedford Roughyed Wiltshire Rhino Gingerjon Moose Bob8 tim2 Saint 1 Canabull Niels
Week 1 93.5 116 156.5 135.6 84.9 66 78.9 76   98.88  
Week 2 93.5 116 155.4 134.26 89.9 66 83.9 76 82 96.61  
Week 3  93.1 115 155.6 131.1 82.55 66 88.9 76 87 97.39 72.57
Week 4 93.4 116 155.4 131.1 79.37 66 80.1 76 82.5 98.43 73.03
Week 5 93.1 116 154.3 132 79.37 66 78.4 74.5 82.5 95.7 73.94
Week 6 93.4 116 155.5 132 DNR 66 78.4 74.6 DNR 96.61 73.48
Week 7 92.5 116 154.9 132 DNR 65.5 79.1 "up a bit" DNR 95.03 74
Week 8 92.5 115 154 131.5 recovering 66 DNR 73.6 79.8 95.94 76
Week 9 91.8 Broken 152.6 131.5 recovering 66 (probably) DNR 73 78.5 96.61 75.6
                       
loss/gain -0.7   -1.4 0       -0.6 -1.3 0.67 -0.4
Titan  7.65   12.72 10.96   5.50   6.08 6.54 8.05 6.30
                   
                       

I'll put a weight in next week, however bad it is.

Physio appointment again this week. Had hoped it would be a formality but flare up in a similar spot the past couple of days is making things less than fun.

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Anyone at the Hastings Half Marathon this weekend can look forward to my smiling visage by the start line ...

 

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Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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Last week was almost a cycling write-off due to the incessant dangerous high winds so it felt good to get back on the bike this morning. Especially in the nice spring sunshine.

Felt really strong. The rest probably did me good.

Old Faithful we never lose at Wembley

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Hi Shadow and everyone.

75.29 so a tiny reduction. 

Stress levels great now- I managed not to get involved in the thread this morning that was locked so I was able to go to the gym calm and focused. ☺

Thank you for keeping the records. It was really helpful today for comparison.

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151.2

First day with over 20,000 steps yesterday (24,797), which was nice.  Achilles is temperamental.  Goes from fine to inflamed seemingly at will!

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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"So your lower back is still inflamed and this bit [jab] of your groin is tight and painful ..."

Well, at least the physio sounded cheerful. And I now have even more embarrassing stretchy moves to do.

Next appointment at the start of April.

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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8 minutes ago, MattSantos said:

3 months physio and if not resolved, surgery to replace and then fuse my L5 with new bone. 

No intense exercise at all. Seeing a physio tomorrow so will see what i can do to keep sane. 

How’s that sit with the new job?

 

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15 minutes ago, CanaBull said:

Another MRI ordered for my spine on April 1st, over and above the annual 'check up' MRI.  More than a tad concerned at this point.

Whats up?

Ive a prolapsed disc that likely needs replacing. A broken verterbra that is likely 15-20 years old is potentially causing sciatica or it potentially isnt. Stupid rugby! I always knew something was odd....

Seen a physio today who wants to avoid spinal surgery; his theory is that my bum cheek and poor supporting muscles is the cause of my nerve pain. 

Summary - pay for a physio, a reay good one related to your injury. Ive had multiple NHS MRIs etc in the UK and months and months of physio and in reflection theyve all been terrible.

My situation makes me realise how lucky i am to live insured in Singapore. I have a MRI or whatever same day and go over the results with my surgeon straight after.

Oh..mentally im rubbish at the minute. Proper weird depression, do better than me and talk to someone if you can. Injuries are pretty ######  but spine stuff is even worse.

 

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7.5 miles walking today.  Most done this year.  I hurt now.

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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1 hour ago, MattSantos said:

Whats up?

Ive a prolapsed disc that likely needs replacing. A broken verterbra that is likely 15-20 years old is potentially causing sciatica or it potentially isnt. Stupid rugby! I always knew something was odd....

Seen a physio today who wants to avoid spinal surgery; his theory is that my bum cheek and poor supporting muscles is the cause of my nerve pain. 

Summary - pay for a physio, a reay good one related to your injury. Ive had multiple NHS MRIs etc in the UK and months and months of physio and in reflection theyve all been terrible.

My situation makes me realise how lucky i am to live insured in Singapore. I have a MRI or whatever same day and go over the results with my surgeon straight after.

Oh..mentally im rubbish at the minute. Proper weird depression, do better than me and talk to someone if you can. Injuries are pretty ######  but spine stuff is even worse.

 

Turns out I had fractures in my L4-L5 vertebrae years ago, bone grew around those fracture points until 2011 when a piece of the L4 broke off and jammed in between the disc and the nerve.  Caused the disc to herniate further causing more nerve damage.

A lot of administrative hoop jumping, physio, MRI’s, CAT scans and X-Rays later they finally did the surgery where it was found that there was more damage to the inside of the spine which wasn’t seen on the MRI’s.  Nerve damage was irreversible at that point, foot I can’t lift up, bigger toes just flop about but always hurt.  It’s like stamping on a big nail, having your toes cut off and being stabbed in the calf three times a second.  Most of the disc was removed and excess bone chiselled away to release the nerve but I avoided the fusion at that point fortunately.

Since then as things have progressed, increased weight and load on the roots above and below are starting to show effects as the nerves there also get compressed.  From what the surgeon said to me there is herniation at L5-S1 which has been there for years as well, which explains much. 

Physio I agree is the best way to go if you can, I had issues with mobility until getting a brace which holds my foot and leg in the right position to walk more normally.  Dropped a reasonable amount of weight so far, but started having increased pain in different areas which relates to the S1 root so there has been changes there which need to be checked out.  I doubt the increased activity is the causing factor, just aging probably.  My usual physio and exercise routine aren’t lessening that pain at all and after this long you start to learn what’s ignorable pain and what’s not.  This is behind my knee which instinctively bends when the nerve fires off which I want to nip in the bud otherwise it could become another mobility issue eventually.  Expecting L5-S1 fusion as an option which is one of the more common (and successful) ones, just a ###### recovery as you can do very little as the bone graft takes.

As much as the physical pain is bad, and most will fortunately never know how fatiguing physically and draining mentally chronic pain can be, the mental struggle with this has been far, far worse.  Loss, grief, mourning, frustration, anger every time you can’t do something, whether it’s going on a vacation, playing ball with your kid or putting a sock on.

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  Shadow Matt Santos Bedford Roughyed Wiltshire Rhino tim2 Saint 1 Canabull Niels
Week 1 93.5 116 156.5 135.6 76   98.88  
Week 2 93.5 116 155.4 134.26 76 82 96.61  
Week 3  93.1 115 155.6 131.1 76 87 97.39 72.57
Week 4 93.4 116 155.4 131.1 76 82.5 98.43 73.03
Week 5 93.1 116 154.3 132 74.5 82.5 95.7 73.94
Week 6 93.4 116 155.5 132 74.6 DNR 96.61 73.48
Week 7 92.5 116 154.9 132 "up a bit" DNR 95.03 74
Week 8 92.5 115 154 131.5 73.6 79.8 95.94 76
Week 9 91.8 Broken 152.6 131.5 73 78.5 96.61 75.6
Week 10 92.5 114 151.2 DNR DNR DNR 95.7 74.39
                 
loss/gain 0.7 -1 -1.4       -0.91 -1.21
LV-426 79.55 98.04 130.03       82.30 63.98

 

I've dropped out a few that did not report for 3 weeks, you are still on the master spreadsheet on my laptop though should you wish to re enter the list

I also thought the wild life on LV-426 might encourage the runners amongst us to work on our speed. 

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151.7Kgs today.

Disappointing, but I had a weekend away, so Tapas Thursday, Pizza express Saturday, Burger King Sunday and a chinese Monday!

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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My 2 weeks inactivity and normal gluttony due to my knackered achilles seem to have had a predictable result for me as well.

Fortunately last nights 2 miles seem to have had no further ill effects so I hope to be out for a longer go at the weekend

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This shouldn't feel like a victory but I just walked from the car to my desk after a two hour drive and … felt completely normal. It was only when I got to said desk that I realised that normally at some point during that I am in pain.

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