Dunbar Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Davo5 said: Probably but being this forums resident Pommie bashed you wouldn't know,obviously a team sat in 4th on points difference and only 2 off second place has no chance. I think Canberra are contenders as are Souths and probably Manly. But I think all three fall a little short on quality come the really big games and I can't look past Melbourne and the Roosters for the Grand Final if they don't play each other in a qualifying semi. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Just now, Dunbar said: I think Canberra are contenders as are Souths and probably Manly. But I think all three fall a little short on quality come the really big games and I can't look past Melbourne and the Roosters for the Grand Final if they don't play each other in a qualifying semi. Manly are in good form but I don’t see them as contenders. Agree with Melbourne and Roosters with Souths and Raiders as outside bets 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I think Canberra are contenders as are Souths and probably Manly. But I think all three fall a little short on quality come the really big games and I can't look past Melbourne and the Roosters for the Grand Final if they don't play each other in a qualifying semi. I agree,wouldn’t be surprised to see a repeat of last yrs Grand Final but Souths & the Canberra are going well and could pip the Roosters for 2nd in the ladder which would open up the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmduck Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Watkins ready to face Latrell https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/07/30/im-here-to-play-the-best-watkins-ready-to-face-latrell/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Farmduck said: Watkins ready to face Latrell https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/07/30/im-here-to-play-the-best-watkins-ready-to-face-latrell/ Be interesting to see how he gets on. He’s not fit or recovered from his injury so may well have a torrid time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSN Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I remember a few years ago Watkins having a brilliant game against GI when he was on the top of his game. Obviously Watkins has got a lot worse since then so will see how he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSN Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) With regards to contender comments, I put the Roosters as clear favourites, Souths and Melbourne just behind Canberra and Manly just behind them. Melbourne and Canberra can't compete with the others in terms of experienced world class players. I think they are both punching above their weight with very good coaching and fantastic defence. I think Melbourne have a better squad than Canberra. Manly have a very strong team throughout (3rd best IMO) but I don't think they are coached as well and seem to be inconsistent. Souths and Roosters have the right mix of world class quality and good coaching but the Roosters just have far too many top class players. James Tedesco - Best full back (maybe player) in the world. Latrell Mitchell and Joseph Manu - Both in the top 5 centres, back end of last season I'd have said top 2. Cooper Cronk - Just an absolute winner through and through. Luke Cleary - Fully fit he starts in the halves for Australia for me. Boyd Cordner - NSW captain and winner. Angus Crichton - Made NSW squad this year. So you've got 6 or 7 match winners IMO with a further 4 or 5 ex internationals in the squad and a wealth of experience throughout makes them the favourites IMO. Edited July 30, 2019 by RSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I really hope the Storm don’t get to the GF . It’s getting a bit repetitive and I don’t like them or enjoy watching them tbh .I’d really like to see Canberra there with , say , Manly or Souths just for interest and difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmduck Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 On the subject of contenders, I'll just give this thread a plug: ..... and here's how BetEasy sees it: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost crayfish Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I'd put Manly above Canberra, as they have more established big game players, like Jake, Tom and DCE in key ball handling positions. I also think if they can make it to the finals at full strength, Cronulla could be very dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Kent Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abicus Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Watkins has probably signed with the worst club in Rugby League. Titans being beaten 46-0 with 20min to go against the Sydney Roosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Abicus said: Watkins has probably signed with the worst club in Rugby League. Titans being beaten 46-0 with 20min to go against the Sydney Roosters. to be fair I doubt Watkins has ever faced a team of even half the quality of that roosters outfit in his entire career in sl see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB90 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Abicus said: Watkins has probably signed with the worst club in Rugby League. Titans being beaten 46-0 with 20min to go against the Sydney Roosters. To be fair, there roster isn't that bad as they have lots of injuries. You add Jai Arrow (origin player and will probably make the Australia squad), Shannon Boyd (former Australian player) and Ryan James (Captain - close to origin selection) to the forward pack that will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, graveyard johnny said: to be fair I doubt Watkins has ever faced a team of even half the quality of that roosters outfit in his entire career in sl And that is a Team without JWH, Ryan Hall, Jake Friend and Captain Boyd Cordner. The Titans can improve a lot, they just need management and coaching. Edited August 4, 2019 by Allora Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Abicus said: Watkins has probably signed with the worst club in Rugby League. Titans being beaten 46-0 with 20min to go against the Sydney Roosters. Worst in the NRL at the moment. Worst in Rugby League? not even close. As a Test player and SL big name player he is making his way cautiously into the NRL, he got brushed off in defense several times today. Edited August 4, 2019 by Allora 1 Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 where was ryan hall again this week? see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allora Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, graveyard johnny said: where was ryan hall again this week? He has a Knee injury Talent is secondary to whether players are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 only saw the highlights but Watkins looked ineffective against an average dragons team today see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: only saw the highlights but Watkins looked ineffective against an average dragons team today What percentage of the game was shown in the actual highlights (taking away replays)? Maybe 2% or 3%? I'm not saying Watkins had a blinder but it is a bit of a generalisation. James Graham might have had an amazing game and he might not figure a single second in the highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I saw the second half of the Dragons Titans game. I would describe Watkins performance as quiet rather than ineffective. The Titans threatened a comeback midway through the half and all their attack was on their left edge away from Watkins. This season is lost to the Titans and Watkins, we will see what Watkins can do next year with a full pre season and a new coach. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I saw the second half of the Dragons Titans game. I would describe Watkins performance as quiet rather than ineffective. The Titans threatened a comeback midway through the half and all their attack was on their left edge away from Watkins. This season is lost to the Titans and Watkins, we will see what Watkins can do next year with a full pre season and a new coach. He didn’t look fit still in that Roosters game last week, i still can’t figure out what’s wrong with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 57 minutes ago, DoubleD said: He didn’t look fit still in that Roosters game last week, i still can’t figure out what’s wrong with him I remember him being interviewed a while ago (several years) on Sky after a game and he had got a knock on his knee and he said something like "and it was my bad knee as well". As he had not been injured for a while I can only assume the knee that injured a couple of times early in his career continued to cause him problems. Only speculation but maybe it is just a recurring thing he manages. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I remember him being interviewed a while ago (several years) on Sky after a game and he had got a knock on his knee and he said something like "and it was my bad knee as well". As he had not been injured for a while I can only assume the knee that injured a couple of times early in his career continued to cause him problems. Only speculation but maybe it is just a recurring thing he manages. It doesn’t look like he’s managing it very well. Could be similar to Konrad Hurrell cos he’s clearly not fit and regularly limps (and went off early again last night) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfred Mann Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) After this weekend’s round the top 4 is clear: 1, Melbourne Storm 2. Sydney Roosters 3. Canberra Raiders 4. South Sydney Rabbitohs. This means that British players will be very important for teams 3 and 4. Bateman and Hodgson are two of the most important stars for Canberra. The Burgess brothers are very important for South Sydney, and Sam is the captain. Whether Ryan Hall plays for the Sydney Roosters in the finals is an open question. In Hall’s absence with a knee injury, Brett Morris has played very well. Trent Robinson has a selection dilemma. However I am very confident that Melbourne Storm and Sydney Roosters will be the Grand Finalists Edited August 11, 2019 by Manfred Mann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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