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Excellent again from Herbie today . 160 metres , 17 runs , couple of line breaks , a try and some clutch plays at his own end . Very strong peformances consistently now , equal to and often better than Staggs this season . England’s premier centre for me 

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3 hours ago, Damien said:

Or maybe he had training with the Broncos and couldn't sit there waiting. Maybe the connection dropped just before or he had other technical issues, it happens all the time.

All ifs, buts and maybes, from both points of view, but it seems crazy to jump to conclusions and question his commitment and say playing in the NRL has gone to his head on the back of it.

As I said - if its true. But training above a call from the national manager.....

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6 minutes ago, Mr Frisky said:

As I said - if its true. But training above a call from the national manager.....

Well yes, training would certainly come before sitting about waiting all day and testing connections for a call.

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1 hour ago, DavidM said:

Excellent again from Herbie today . 160 metres , 17 runs , couple of line breaks , a try and some clutch plays at his own end . Very strong peformances consistently now , equal to and often better than Staggs this season . England’s premier centre for me 

Those stats are meaningless unless we know if he's improved on zoom

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1 hour ago, Damien said:

Well yes, training would certainly come before sitting about waiting all day and testing connections for a call.

From the manager of your country in WC year.......

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14 minutes ago, Mr Frisky said:

From the manager of your country in WC year.......

The Broncos are his employers so he can't just not turn up for work.

Anyway, this is moot.  Wane is not going to schedule a call with his NRL contingent at a time when they are all likely to be at training.  It would have been scheduled on a non game day either in the evening or eay morning Australian time.

Farnworth was either late or didn't turn up for some reason which wasn't acceptable. Wane wasn't happy and disciplined him.

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12 minutes ago, Mr Frisky said:

Its not like an NRL lover to just dismiss all SL players, no matter how good they are, in favour of someone with very little first team experience.....

Who has very little first team experience ?

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29 minutes ago, Mr Frisky said:

Its not like an NRL lover to just dismiss all SL players, no matter how good they are, in favour of someone with very little first team experience.....

48 first team appearances in the toughest Rugby League competition in the world. At what point does does Farnworth get past ‘very little experience’ ?

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7 hours ago, Damien said:

Or maybe he had training with the Broncos and couldn't sit there waiting. Maybe the connection dropped just before or he had other technical issues, it happens all the time.

All ifs, buts and maybes, from both points of view, but it seems crazy to jump to conclusions and question his commitment and say playing in the NRL has gone to his head on the back of it.

It’s crazy to jump to conclusions? On a thread with dozens of posts castigating Wane for turning his back on Farnworth for no reason???

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Some really weird takes on here regarding Farnworth.  If he was playing this well in Super League we would be praising him and saying he was absolutely playing himself into England contention.   As it happens, he is playing really well in the NRL and is in England contention.

The ironic thing is that the crowd on here that say he is only in the mix because he is playing in the NRL are actually showing that they are only discounting him because he is playing in the NRL... somewhat hypocritical. 

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8 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

Some really weird takes on here regarding Farnworth.  If he was playing this well in Super League we would be praising him and saying he was absolutely playing himself into England contention.   As it happens, he is playing really well in the NRL and is in contention for England contention.

The ironic thing is that the crowd on here that say he is only in the mix because he is playing in the NRL are actually showing that they are only discounting him because he is playing in the NRL... somewhat hypocritical. 

The simple fact is that apart from Percival,Farnworth is the only other English centre that is currently showing an ability to play to a high level and to stay fit.

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1 hour ago, Davo5 said:

The simple fact is that apart from Percival,Farnworth is the only other English centre that is currently showing an ability to play to a high level and to stay fit.

I would be trying Welsby there in the England game before going anywhere near Hardaker, Sarginson and Lyne. Percival is in career best form at the moment - he is maturing into an all round player.

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Farnworth is playing well every week against players that are contenders for the Australian, New Zealand and Tonga teams, the other English centres are playing against contenders for the England, Scotland,Wales,France and the combined nations teams, surely that's the difference. 

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14 hours ago, Scubby said:

I would be trying Welsby there in the England game before going anywhere near Hardaker, Sarginson and Lyne. Percival is in career best form at the moment - he is maturing into an all round player.

I’d be trying Ga ry Schofield before Lyne & Sarginson.

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Only caught glimpses of this mornings games but looked like Tom burgess had a decent game. Top of the Hard Earned index with about 15 to go, though not sure how that ended up. Also crossed for a good try.

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19 minutes ago, EastLondonMike said:

Only caught glimpses of this mornings games but looked like Tom burgess had a decent game. Top of the Hard Earned index with about 15 to go, though not sure how that ended up. Also crossed for a good try.

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  • Thomas Burgess led the way for the Bunnies up front with 186 metres from 16 runs, six tackle breaks and a runaway try that evoked memories of twin brother George's classic solo effort in the 2014 grand final.

Definitely his best game this year.  He has started a little quiet this year but seemed back on form today.

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Elliott Whitehead needs another week to recover from his facial injury and is ruled out of the Warriors game tomorrow.

But this means Harry Rushton gets another chance from the bench. 

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33 minutes ago, FearTheVee said:

Any centre pairing other than Percival/Farnworth (if both stay fit) would be the wrong call.

If we play a back rower there again I will be livid.

Completely agree. On current form they're definitely the front runners.

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Very good from Tom Burgess . Won the hard work index prize , probably a gift voucher , and scored a lovely try followed by a terrible try celebration 

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10 hours ago, barnyia said:

Farnworth is playing well every week against players that are contenders for the Australian, New Zealand and Tonga teams, the other English centres are playing against contenders for the England, Scotland,Wales,France and the combined nations teams, surely that's the difference. 

Yes exactly 

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