Saint Toppy Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 On 14/07/2022 at 19:24, graveyard johnny said: don't get the "basket case club" thing people banter about on here - both the dogs and the tigers are packed with great talent but are struggling because the top clubs are packed with immense talent - both the dogs and tigers would dominate SL easily with the players they have on their books - hardly "basket case?" They absolutely wouldn't. Aside from taking Thompson back and may Pangai Jnr I can't think of any other Dogs player i'd put in the Saints team over the current players we have 3 St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 10 hours ago, UTK said: A telstra tracker leaderboard for this season so far came out in the media yesterday, Dom Young has registered the third highest speed in the NRL this season, Herbie hasn't managed to get inside the top 15 this season but was 6th last season. Top 5 speeds in km/h: Jason Saab (37.4) Stephen Crichton (37.4) Dom Young (37.3) Xavier Savage (36.7) Kalyn Ponga (36.6) Last years results for the season: Josh Addo-Carr (38.1) Jason Saab (38.0) Xavier Coates (37.6) Dom Young (37.4) Hamiso Tabuai-Fidow (37.3) Herbie Farnworth (36.7) So people talk about The Foxx and Saab as being flyers but Dom is losing virtually nothing with both of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint Toppy said: They absolutely wouldn't. Aside from taking Thompson back and may Pangai Jnr I can't think of any other Dogs player i'd put in the Saints team over the current players we have So if Saints signed Foxx and Burton what would you say ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, DavidM said: So if Saints signed Foxx and Burton what would you say ? David, you genuinely haven't got anything better on today because Toppy is in for the long haul on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Mead Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint Toppy said: They absolutely wouldn't. Aside from taking Thompson back and may Pangai Jnr I can't think of any other Dogs player i'd put in the Saints team over the current players we have Just when you thought Saints’ delusion could not climb any higher….. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 42 minutes ago, DavidM said: So if Saints signed Foxx and Burton what would you say ? I can guess but it wouldn’t have any bearing on reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandOffHalf Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Saint Toppy said: They absolutely wouldn't. Aside from taking Thompson back and may Pangai Jnr I can't think of any other Dogs player i'd put in the Saints team over the current players we have Addo-Carr and perhaps Burton would strengthen Saints, but I mostly agree. It's a pretty weak Bulldogs squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Toppy Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said: Addo-Carr and perhaps Burton would strengthen Saints, but I mostly agree. It's a pretty weak Bulldogs squad. Addo Carr of his Melbourne days absolutely, on current form, doubtful. He's been awful this year and has probably made more mistakes in this 1 season than in his entire time at the Storm. As for Burton, I just dont get the hype. The Aussie commentators cream themselves every time he puts up a high kick but other than that I can't say i've been that impressed with him as a 6, though he does look a lot better as a centre. 1 St.Helens - The Home of record breaking Rugby Champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandOffHalf Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 48 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said: Addo Carr of his Melbourne days absolutely, on current form, doubtful. He's been awful this year and has probably made more mistakes in this 1 season than in his entire time at the Storm. As for Burton, I just dont get the hype. The Aussie commentators cream themselves every time he puts up a high kick but other than that I can't say i've been that impressed with him as a 6, though he does look a lot better as a centre. I think those are fair criticisms. Burton's torpedoing spirals are pretty amazing though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Saint Toppy said: Addo Carr of his Melbourne days absolutely, on current form, doubtful. He's been awful this year and has probably made more mistakes in this 1 season than in his entire time at the Storm. As for Burton, I just dont get the hype. The Aussie commentators cream themselves every time he puts up a high kick but other than that I can't say i've been that impressed with him as a 6, though he does look a lot better as a centre. Maybe the Foxx has been in a polar opposite side , although that may be a total coincidence . And Burton is 22 a GF winner , Origin player and hes shown ( particularly in the centres strangely enough ) that he has a lot to his game over and above a huge bomb . And again , playing for the Dogs isnt helping both but theyre still proven quality Edited July 20, 2022 by DavidM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Saint Toppy said: They absolutely wouldn't. Aside from taking Thompson back and may Pangai Jnr I can't think of any other Dogs player i'd put in the Saints team over the current players we have this is the same dogs team that narrowly lost to souths at the weekend with a great display - the same dogs that off loaded a well past it hopoate to saints and the same saints that got destroyed by souths the last time they played? are these the same teams you talk of? see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandOffHalf Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 3 hours ago, graveyard johnny said: this is the same dogs team that narrowly lost to souths at the weekend with a great display - the same dogs that off loaded a well past it hopoate to saints and the same saints that got destroyed by souths the last time they played? are these the same teams you talk of? RL isn't generally a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors though. Good on the Dogs for getting up for a game against their rivals (I didn't see the game). Suggesting that they'd beats Saints because they ran Soufs close is a bit of a strange way to look at things IMO. Soufs are a different outfit to the one that beat Saints back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said: . Soufs are a different outfit to the one that beat Saints back then. agreed- quite a few of that souths team were coming to the end of their careers see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, graveyard johnny said: agreed- quite a few of that souths team were coming to the end of their careers Not really,I was lucky enough to see them live twice that year,against Saints & Canterbury, in a memorable game at ANZ,they were missing Sam Burgess but for the first half of the season they were easily the best team in the NRL,with people talking about them going unbeaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTK Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 20/07/2022 at 20:49, DavidM said: So people talk about The Foxx and Saab as being flyers but Dom is losing virtually nothing with both of them His biggest problem at the moment is he lacks some acceleration compared to some of the others particularly when he has to turn around, but he's still lightning. The numbers for rd 18 just came in and he clocked 38.0 km/h which means he takes top spot this year by a massive 0.6km/h and is 0.1km/h off Addo-Carrs top speed from the previous season. I can't quite wrap my head around an 108kg/200cm tall kid being the fastest player in Rugby League, he's just an absolute freak of an athlete. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) I have loved Elliot Whitehead, he is one of my favourite players over the last decade, but he should be nowhere near the England squad this year. His form has fallen off a cliff and he suddenly looks all his age (will be 33 at the world cup). His form may come back but he is a long way down the pecking order. So experienced but is the weak link for Canberra atm. Sometimes age and wear and tear just gets you. Edited July 23, 2022 by Scubby 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTK Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, Scubby said: I have loved Elliot Whitehead, he is one of my favourite players over the last decade, but he should be nowhere near the England squad this year. His form has fallen off a cliff and he suddenly looks all his age (will be 33 at the world cup). His form may come back but he is a long way down the pecking order. So experienced but is the weak link for Canberra atm. Sometimes age and wear and tear just gets you. Spot on, been a brilliant player for a long time and it's a shame that recent circumstances have robbed him of playing more tests but there's too many good options playing in SL to overlook now. Plenty of experienced heads still in the England 17 so balancing the experience/form lever does not work in his favour at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Scubby said: I have loved Elliot Whitehead, he is one of my favourite players over the last decade, but he should be nowhere near the England squad this year. His form has fallen off a cliff and he suddenly looks all his age (will be 33 at the world cup). His form may come back but he is a long way down the pecking order. So experienced but is the weak link for Canberra atm. Sometimes age and wear and tear just gets you. Bateman and McMeeken? Or Batchelor pushing for a slot? Not sure on the latter; really good SL player but not sure he has the stretch potential for internationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Scubby said: I have loved Elliot Whitehead, he is one of my favourite players over the last decade, but he should be nowhere near the England squad this year. His form has fallen off a cliff and he suddenly looks all his age (will be 33 at the world cup). His form may come back but he is a long way down the pecking order. So experienced but is the weak link for Canberra atm. Sometimes age and wear and tear just gets you. Pretty quiet today then went off and CHN had a big impact . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubby Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, DavidM said: Pretty quiet today then went off and CHN had a big impact . I would have had him as an automatic selection and even pushing for captain a year or two ago. I have seen every Canberra game in 2022 and he just seems way off the pace. He was such a quick thinking player, always one step ahead and it's just not happening for him. Hope it is just a phase and he can come back but he isn't worth a place in the England squad on current form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 where was dom young in the knights team this weekend? injured? dropped? see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Just now, graveyard johnny said: where was dom young in the knights team this weekend? injured? dropped? Injured. The rib injury that forced him off last week. Should be back next week. 1 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dunbar said: Injured. The rib injury that forced him off last week. Should be back next week. ok- they were dreadful against the roosters see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: ok- they were dreadful against the roosters They were. No doubt Young wouldn't have made a difference to the score but as the Knights second highest ball carrier and highest tackle breaker this year, his carries would have helped a little... which the Roosters got in spades from Suaalii and Tupou, getting every set off on the front foot. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Headline in today`s Oz: NRL 2022: Broncos star Herbie Farnworth makes miraculous recovery and set for finals. The Broncos’ teetering premiership assault has received a huge boost with strike centre Herbie Farnworth making a stunning recovery from a serious bicep tear to be ready for the NRL finals. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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