TheDuke Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Any scores from today? what is the draw for the last 8, the information available is difficult to get from barla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 https://www.barla.org.uk/results Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDuke Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 of the 8 ties were 18-0 walkovers do teams enter on the 50/50 basis that they’ll get a home draw and if not they think sod it we aren’t going there! its hard to see a future for the amateur game with the current way it is going i firmly believe the amateur game needs to be under one banner but neither the RFL or Barla are capable organisations at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial Observer Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, TheDuke said: 3 of the 8 ties were 18-0 walkovers do teams enter on the 50/50 basis that they’ll get a home draw and if not they think sod it we aren’t going there! i firmly believe the amateur game needs to be under one banner but neither the RFL or Barla are capable organisations at the moment If teams do not travel that is down to them and not BARLA though a 2 year ban from entering may deter that. BTW what has happened to jason woodam running the barla twitter account, all has gone quiet, has he fallen out with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Impartial Observer said: If teams do not travel that is down to them and not BARLA though a 2 year ban from entering may deter that. BTW what has happened to jason woodam running the barla twitter account, all has gone quiet, has he fallen out with them? The guy who runs all our media is working away in Holland and trying to get passwords so someone else can keep everything up to date is proving to be hard work. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDuke Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 It’s amateurish at best information is hit and miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, TheDuke said: It’s amateurish at best information is hit and miss I found the results straight away and they can't be published until clubs send them in. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender1 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 On 2/24/2019 at 7:44 AM, TheDuke said: 3 of the 8 ties were 18-0 walkovers do teams enter on the 50/50 basis that they’ll get a home draw and if not they think sod it we aren’t going there! its hard to see a future for the amateur game with the current way it is going i firmly believe the amateur game needs to be under one banner but neither the RFL or Barla are capable organisations at the moment Waterhead and St Annes had league games, 2 associations working against each other, crackers, Next round of the Challenge Cup and National Cup both on 9th March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial Observer Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Maybe they could have played their 2nd teams in the games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcentre21 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 if clubs wanted to play 2nd teams then they would enter 2nd teams. most 2nd teams are miles off the 1st team standard so it would be like sending lambs to slaughter in most cases not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, topcentre21 said: if clubs wanted to play 2nd teams then they would enter 2nd teams. most 2nd teams are miles off the 1st team standard so it would be like sending lambs to slaughter in most cases not all. You'd be surprised by the standard of some of these so called second teams, in fact the NCL clubs don't call them second teams during the winter, they are their winter teams which are made up of 1st, 2nd and U18's players and if you look at the league tables they all seem to be doing OK for themselves, I'm sure Drighlington, East Leeds & Eastmoor winter teams would hold their own in the Pennine or YML premier divisions. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 It really is sad to see this once great comp reduced to its present embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic Rooster Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 BARLA National cup. 1973-74 Leigh Miners Welfare 12 Latchford Albion (Warrington) 7 1974-75 Pilkingtons Recreation (St. Helens) 22 Mayfield (Rochdale) 4 1975-76 Ace Amateurs (Hull) 20 Ovenden (Halifax) 12 1976-77 West Hull 10 National Dock Labour Board (Hull) 3 1977-78 Milford 22 Leigh Miners Welfare 13 1978-79 Pilkingtons Recreation (St. Helens) 9 West Hull 3 1979-80 Pilkingtons Recreation (St. Helens) 16 Dewsbury Celtic 5 1980-81 Beecroft & Wightman (Hull) 11 Lock Lane (Castleford) 2 1981-82 Pilkingtons Recreation (St. Helens) 19 Milford (Leeds) 2 1982-83 Leigh Miners Welfare 12 Lock Lane (Castleford) 8 1983-84 Dudley Hill (Bradford) 24 Mysons (Hull) 16 1984-85 Jubilee (Featherstone) 26 West Hull 10 1985-86 Mysons (Hull) 17 Millom (Barrow) 8 1986-87 Thatto Heath (St. Helens) 15 Heworth (York) 8 1987-88 Wigan St. Patricks 28 Elland (Halifax) 8 1988-89 Crosfields (Warrington) 25 Kells (Whitehaven) 11 1989-90 Egremont Rangers (Whitehaven) 11 Saddleworth Rangers (Oldham) 4 1990-91 Saddleworth Rangers (Oldham) 27 Hull Dockers 14 1991-92 Hull Dockers 27 Skirlaugh (Hull) 8 1992-93 Saddleworth Rangers (Oldham) 23 Hensingham (Whitehaven) 16 1993-94 Saddleworth Rangers (Oldham) 33 Thatto Heath (St. Helens) 8 1994-95 West Hull 7 Woolston Rovers (Warrington) 6 1995-96 Skirlaugh (Hull) 21 Ellenborough Rangers (Workington) 16 1996-97 Ellenborough Rangers (Workington) 28 Dudley Hill (Bradford) 24 1997-98 Redhill (Castleford) 40 Ideal A.B.I (Hull) 12 1998-99 Skirlaugh (Hull) 32 Wath Brow Hornets (Whitehaven) 2 1999-00 Skirlaugh (Hull) 36 Ideal Isberg (Hull) 30 2000-01 Thatto Heath Crusaders (St. Helens) 20 Featherstone Lions 12 2001-02 West Hull 36 Ince Rose Bridge (Wigan) 10 2002-03 Oldham St. Annes 15 West Hull 14 2003-04 Wath Brow Hornets (Whitehaven) 25 Oldham St. Annes 19 2004-05 Wath Brow Hornets (Whitehaven) 16 Skirlaugh (Hull) 6 2005-06 Skirlaugh (Hull) 26 Leigh Miners Rangers 13 2006-07 Halton Simms Cross (Widnes) 23 Ince Rose Bridge (Wigan) 8 2007-08 East Hull 26 Wath Brow Hornets (Whitehaven) 10 2008-09 Siddal (Halifax) 38 Wigan St. Cuthberts 12 2009-10 Queens (Leeds) 17 Leigh East 7 2010-11 Sharlston Rovers (Wakefield) 20 Fryston (Castleford) 18 2011-12 Queens (Leeds) 33 Sharlston Rovers (Wakefield) 10 2012-13 Sharlston Rovers (Wakefield) 31 Wibsey Warriors (Bradford) 30 2013-14 Sharlston Rovers (Wakefield) 26 Hunslet Old Boys (Leeds) 16 2014-15 Egremont Rangers (Whitehaven) 34 Sharlston Rovers (Wakefield) 16 2015-16 Thornhill Trojans (Dewsbury) 17 Myton Warriors (Hull) 14 2016-17 Hunslet Club Parkside (Leeds) 37 Fryston Warriors (Castleford) 10 2017-18 West Hull 31 Haydock (St. Helens) 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Davo5 said: It really is sad to see this once great comp reduced to its present embarrassment. It's not an embarrassment to the club who wins it. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDuke Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 It’s not a competition for all of the amateur game now, sadly different factions won’t budge on dates etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, TheDuke said: It’s not a competition for all of the amateur game now, sadly different factions won’t budge on dates etc Sadly the NCL decided to put pressure on their clubs by giving league fixtures on BARLA cup dates. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 43 minutes ago, Marauder said: Sadly the NCL decided to put pressure on their clubs by giving league fixtures on BARLA cup dates. Not the old,it’s everyone else’s fault not BARLA’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celtic Rooster Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I'm not a big BARLA fan and my club are in the NCL but Marauder is right in this instance though Davo. BARLA play the National cup rounds to coincide with the winter leagues as they have always done. They have not done anything to exclude any clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial Observer Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Celtic Rooster said: I'm not a big BARLA fan and my club are in the NCL but Marauder is right in this instance though Davo. BARLA play the National cup rounds to coincide with the winter leagues as they have always done. They have not done anything to exclude any clubs. So then why are the teams who are in the pennine league not entering? the last 4 winners are NCL teams. Looking at the 1st round draw there are not many from pennine. The ncl cup was ditched as so few clubs wanted to enter it, there are too many games in the season and players want some weekends off and not playing every week Waterhead v Orrell St James Upton v Cockermouth Titans Kells `A` v Bentley Skirlaugh v Haydock Myton Warriors v Moldgreen Queensbury v Seacroft Sharks Wigan St Cuthbert’s v Thatto Heath Aspartia Hornets v West Hull Lambworth Lions v Hunslet Club Parkside Glasson Rangers v Drighlington Siddal v Sharlston Rovers Oldham St Anne’s v Ovenden Kinsley Rangers v Walney Central Eastern Rhino’s v Cutsyke Blackbrook v Ellenborough West Bank v Doncaster Toll Bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Impartial Observer said: So then why are the teams who are in the pennine league not entering? the last 4 winners are NCL teams. Looking at the 1st round draw there are not many from pennine. The ncl cup was ditched as so few clubs wanted to enter it, there are too many games in the season and players want some weekends off and not playing every week Waterhead v Orrell St James Upton v Cockermouth Titans Kells `A` v Bentley Skirlaugh v Haydock Myton Warriors v Moldgreen Queensbury v Seacroft Sharks Wigan St Cuthbert’s v Thatto Heath Aspartia Hornets v West Hull Lambworth Lions v Hunslet Club Parkside Glasson Rangers v Drighlington Siddal v Sharlston Rovers Oldham St Anne’s v Ovenden Kinsley Rangers v Walney Central Eastern Rhino’s v Cutsyke Blackbrook v Ellenborough West Bank v Doncaster Toll Bar It still as a draw with clubs associated with BARLA and this year it attracted more none Pennine clubs than the year before, hopefully this trend will continue but if it does I dare say some type of competition will be put in place. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 lets tell the truth, the NCL gave clubs fixtures on the agreed dates that the BARLA cup rounds where pencilled in. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial Observer Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Why do so many ncl clubs enter and so few pennine teams then? Looking at the barla website the next round is being played on 9th March when is challenge cup round 3 is being played. Not sure when the semis and final are, I couldnt find them on the website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Impartial Observer said: Why do so many ncl clubs enter and so few pennine teams then? Looking at the barla website the next round is being played on 9th March when is challenge cup round 3 is being played. Not sure when the semis and final are, I couldnt find them on the website Just go back and check, not many lower divisional sides entered after the mid 80's because many obviously thought it was a lost cause because they had no chance of winning it and the NCL clubs must think it's still worth winning,. As for the BARLA & Challenge cup being on the same day, it's has to be a mix up somewhere near the top because aren't all the dates for the such sorted out before the season starts between the community board and RFL. Carlsberg don't do Soldiers, but if they did, they would probably be Brits. http://www.pitchero....hornemarauders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, Marauder said: Just go back and check, not many lower divisional sides entered after the mid 80's because many obviously thought it was a lost cause because they had no chance of winning it and the NCL clubs must think it's still worth winning,. As for the BARLA & Challenge cup being on the same day, it's has to be a mix up somewhere near the top because aren't all the dates for the such sorted out before the season starts between the community board and RFL. Can only think of Egremont who took it seriously recently and that was probably just because it was an easy way of drawing level with Wath Brow on the number of wins,but it nearly cost them their premier league place and they soon stopped entering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impartial Observer Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 35 minutes ago, Marauder said: Just go back and check, not many lower divisional sides entered after the mid 80's because many obviously thought it was a lost cause because they had no chance of winning it and the NCL clubs must think it's still worth winning,. As for the BARLA & Challenge cup being on the same day, it's has to be a mix up somewhere near the top because aren't all the dates for the such sorted out before the season starts between the community board and RFL. I wonder why then any community team enter the challenge cup as they have no chance of winning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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