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The current top 4 in the Championship are all big cities and aren't from the current strongholds of Greater Manchester, Cheshire/Merseyside, West Yorkshire or East Yorkshire.

It's highly likely that the promoted club will come from one of these with a Toulouse vs Toronto GF being my prediction.

Which team do you think will add the most to SL and have the best chance of becoming a team that challenges at the top?

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Toronto will inject more glitz, glamour and profile but there’s a nagging doubt they might be a here today, gone tomorrow novelty act.

There’s probably more long-term benefit from Toulouse being in, not least from a player and French XIII perspective.

All things being equal, Toulouse.  

Of course, it could and possibly should be engineered so they are both in but that’s a whole other thread.

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45 minutes ago, JM2010 said:

The current top 4 in the Championship are all big cities and aren't from the current strongholds of Greater Manchester, Cheshire/Merseyside, West Yorkshire or East Yorkshire.

It's highly likely that the promoted club will come from one of these with a Toulouse vs Toronto GF being my prediction.

Which team do you think will add the most to SL and have the best chance of becoming a team that challenges at the top?

?? Top 4 , only been 4/5 games played, bit early yet.

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I did say current top 4.

I think Toulouse and Toronto are guaranteed. A lot can change over the course of the season but I think at least 3 of those teams will make the playoffs with Halifax, Featherstone and Bradford being other possible contenders

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I think Toronto would be the most exciting and I think for the sake of their venture they need to get up sooner rather than later. But I would love to see York in SL, as unlikely as that may be.

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27 minutes ago, JM2010 said:

I did say current top 4.

I think Toulouse and Toronto are guaranteed. A lot can change over the course of the season but I think at least 3 of those teams will make the playoffs with Halifax, Featherstone and Bradford being other possible contenders

Bradford? They’ve been very poor so far this season. I’d be astonished if they finished above York.

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Toronto are what the league needs in the near future. They offer profile and more TV games, no doubt they would bring in some serious talent as well and probably get a fair bunch of sell-out crowds at Lamport.

Longer term the league needs Toulouse with the increased player pool they’ll bring and continued development of French Rugby League. I personally think Toulouse deserve the same treatment Catalans got.... most would agree that Catalans are our best template for expansion of the league and they were given more than a years notice to come into the league and two years exemption from relegation. Toulouse could perhaps be an even bigger success given the same opportunity. With a second french team it will genuinely increase the opportunity for a good french broadcasting deal.

York have massive potential. Big city, great for tourism and no huge football club to compete with on their doorstep. 

Personally don’t think Sheffield will ever make an impact at the top level again, they couldn’t even attract support after their incredible cup win in 1998, what has changed to suggest they’d now be able to do it? 

Toulouse, Toronto, York, Bradford... those are the kinds of clubs I want to see in super league. Collectively they offer profile, broadcasting opportunities, a massively increased player pool and massive potential to win new fans for the sport. Isn’t that originally what Super League was all about? 

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It’s only 4-6 games into the Championship season, so it’s not as though the current top four is anywhere near decided. 

Out of the current top four, I’d take any of them. 

Toronto have the potential to create a media buzz around them and the league as a whole but their promotion has to come with a plan around the schedule they’ll play to, the venues they use and the logistics behind the trips for Super League sides, because the last thing we need is negative parochial news articles about a pretty revolutionary team that paints the game out as some M62 dwelling game for men with funny accents and whippets.  

Sheffield created probably the biggest Challenge Cup Final shock in the competition’s history, were the first side to play a Super League game, is one of the Northern powerhouses and a good city for visitors. However, they’re part-time and their ground probably isn’t Super League standard so that would be a big negative, I think. 

York, again, a great city. New ground. Big buzz around the club. New name to Super League and potential to keep growing with a promotion. Would love a weekend stay there. Though, again, part-time and it would be a hell of a step up, I fear. 

Toulouse add to the “European” aspect of the game and a French derby in Super League would be quite an event. However, I don’t think there’s a lot of money there and issues around their ground, so that may be an issue. 

Would take any of the current top four, Bradford and Halifax in Super League. 

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32 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:

I think the question that should be asked is which three teams would you like to see in SL 2020

That is the question Rob Elstone should be asking Sky. 

 

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3 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

I think the question that should be asked is which three teams would you like to see in SL 2020

I'd like to see all the 2019 sides retained, with Toronto and Toulouse added.

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7 hours ago, Oliver Clothesoff said:

 

Sheffield .... their ground probably isn’t Super League standard 

Quite likely  the biggest understatement I've ever seen on this forum!

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Toulouse for me a proper French club, and should help the French national side if they made it.

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Toulouse would be best for the game....French RL might really take off of they got there and we'd have a decent national side to play tests with within a few years

Bradford my second due to the fact they have the potential for 15,000 attendance of they get success

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All the above posts sound like strong arguments for a 14 or even 16 team Super League.

The Championship is doing extremely well this year and is showing that clubs don't necessarily need huge tv money to be financially viable, although it obviously helps.

At present you could add Toronto, Toulouse, York and Bradford to Super League and it would immediately be a more vibrant and fresh league for their presence.

Also don't discount Sheffield Eagles, clearly the ground is currently an issue, but how the club has survived let alone remained competitive since the farcical merger with Huddersfield is a minor miracle. At some stage the OLP will be SL compliant and if Sheffield remain strong on the park then there is no reason they can't step back up.

Super League's profile is all the stronger for the return of London and hopefully they can establish roots and grow organically at Ealing, maybe Sheffield can do the same at the OLP.

Other posts have spoken of how League can capitalise on current issues within Union.

Sensible expansion at a time when Union is looking to pull up the drawbridge and contract is surely the way forward. 

 

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23 minutes ago, BladeHearts said:

All the above posts sound like strong arguments for a 14 or even 16 team Super League.

The Championship is doing extremely well this year and is showing that clubs don't necessarily need huge tv money to be financially viable, although it obviously helps.

At present you could add Toronto, Toulouse, York and Bradford to Super League and it would immediately be a more vibrant and fresh league for their presence.

Also don't discount Sheffield Eagles, clearly the ground is currently an issue, but how the club has survived let alone remained competitive since the farcical merger with Huddersfield is a minor miracle. At some stage the OLP will be SL compliant and if Sheffield remain strong on the park then there is no reason they can't step back up.

Super League's profile is all the stronger for the return of London and hopefully they can establish roots and grow organically at Ealing, maybe Sheffield can do the same at the OLP.

Other posts have spoken of how League can capitalise on current issues within Union.

Sensible expansion at a time when Union is looking to pull up the drawbridge and contract is surely the way forward. 

 

Yep I agree on capitalising where the RU is showing contempt. In Ealing the RU's treatment of a potential Ealing Trailfinders promotion to top flight has been disgraceful. I've met a few union fans at the club who've been impressed on the SL match days so far

RU's treatment of the island nations the same. .RL and the NRL in particular looking to capitalise 

 

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