deluded pom? Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Kris said: 12 plus 3 NA sides =16 I take it you failed maths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I'm all for growing the game over here but I'm really skeptical about this working. Toronto has worked so far but they have a lot going for them that Ottawa doesn't. Lamport has been a good home with a good atmosphere. TD Place with 4 or 5,000 people in it would feel very empty. Toronto has lots of corporate money, lots of expats, and lots of people in general. Not so much in Ottawa. I think it's much easier to sell Toronto to prospective players than it is to get them to uproot their lives to move to Ottawa. I mean no disrespect, just my opinion. If they do have some difficulty attracting players, it's possible that the team might not enjoy the same success as Toronto has. We have yet to see how the game is supported over here when the team isn't winning. I know these guys know much more about business than I do, and I'm sure they have their reasons but I do not see this working. I'd love to be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 hours ago, TIWIT said: And no bubble over the field to the end of April... ...except the end of April is also when the snow finally melts in Ottawa. No it's not, when I lived there the snow was invariably gone by the end of March or the first week of April at the very latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, PREPOSTEROUS said: Great stadium, narrow pitch? Not really. A CFL field is 65 yards (just under 60 metres) wide and there looks like enough space on either to make it 65 metres with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 So will Ottawa have the same issues as Toronto early season in terms of not being able to play home games? I can see that potentially being a stumbling block for some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North but south Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Is there any rivalry already between Toronto and Ottawa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Adelaide Tiger said: JonM, i couldnt tell from your repsponse if you support the proposal and are just pointing out negatives or you are against the proposal altogether. If Ottawa do get accepted then the part time players will use the same amount of annual leave as they did for the visit to Toulouse. Was that a major issue for the players that made the trip to Toulouse? I was just pointing out why championship or L1 clubs might be against the proposal and why a vote on it isn't a foregone conclusion. I don't have any special insight into how good or otherwise the bid is, so no strong views. Although I have a great deal more confidence in Eric Perez than Ricky Wilby. When I was working, I would often go to the South of France as a (long) day trip. Playing Toulouse doesn't need to involve anybody working a Mon-Fri 9-5 type job taking time off work. It's not really any different to getting down to Llanelli or up to Newcastle for most clubs. It's a weekend at most. Playing a game in Ottawa, New York or Toronto clearly is not a weekend trip. For me as a fan living near Stansted, it's often cheaper and quicker to get to Perpignan or Toulouse than to a game up north. That wouldn't be the case for watching a game at a Canadian or US club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, Markus said: I think it's much easier to sell Toronto to prospective players than it is to get them to uproot their lives to move to Ottawa. I mean no disrespect, just my opinion. LOL. It's all just Canada to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojx Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I'd like to see Ottawa placed straight onto the Championship. Even if it is as a 15th team so not to effect this years promotion/relegations system. In fact, as a 15th team, it would mean that each travelling team could have a bye week to recover from the trip. without the Summer Bash, this would only mean one more fixture than this season. Smashing League One sides is not a good look when trying to attract new fans. I understand why Toronto did it as they were the first venture of this kind, but the Championship will be better product to show folks in Ottawa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogiron Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Nice place Ottowa, had some good night's out in the ByWard Market area otherwise plenty to see and do round and about, as a Capitol City it feels like a mid size town really, there seems to be some reluctance to consider Montreal or Quebec as a place for a team, maybe Kingston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damp squib Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Markus said: I think it's much easier to sell Toronto to prospective players than it is to get them to uproot their lives to move to Ottawa. I mean no disrespect, just my opinion. If they do have some difficulty attracting players, it's possible that the team might not enjoy the same success as Toronto has. We have yet to see how the game is supported over here when the team isn't winning. This is a valid concern, but thinking positively about it, it might just attract a different sort of player? I was only in Ottawa for a couple of days but it seemed like a very laid back, family friendly sort of place which may appeal to players with young families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damp squib Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Clogiron said: Nice place Ottowa, had some good night's out in the ByWard Market area otherwise plenty to see and do round and about, as a Capitol City it feels like a mid size town really, there seems to be some reluctance to consider Montreal or Quebec as a place for a team, maybe Kingston? Despite what he says in the article about Ottawa, Montreal was obviously Perez's preferred location but he probably couldn't get enough investors interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, damp squib said: Despite what he says in the article about Ottawa, Montreal was obviously Perez's preferred location but he probably couldn't get enough investors interested. Why would you think that? I heard absolutely nothing from Perez that would lead to that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ojx Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 57 minutes ago, North but south said: Is there any rivalry already between Toronto and Ottawa? In CFL and NHL yes. Not on the level as Montreal-Toronto but this would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damp squib Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, Damien said: Why would you think that? I heard absolutely nothing from Perez that would lead to that conclusion. I thought he had explicitly mentioned Montreal as a future location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 hours ago, deluded pom? said: I take it you failed maths? He is in charge of Wigan's salary cap management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Picture Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 51 minutes ago, damp squib said: I thought he had explicitly mentioned Montreal as a future location. He did, but Montréal is a very French city and language politics are big factor in Québec so a team in Montréal would need to appeal to francophones and I frankly can't see them caring about a team playing in an English league having all their opponents being from England. On the contrary they're more likely to feel antagonism to that, so Ottawa's demographics are much more favourable to something like this than Montréal's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastLondonMike Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal could be a nice trio of clubs. Canada's (401) version of the M62 corridor. Newham Dockers - Champions 2013. Rugby League For East London. 100% Cockney Rugby League!Twitter: @NewhamDockersRL - Get following! www.newhamdockers.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hallucinating Goose Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Hamilton was mentioned at one point as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hallucinating Goose Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, EastLondonMike said: Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal could be a nice trio of clubs. Canada's (401) version of the M62 corridor. We could have a third London team as well of we created a 401 corridor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John WP Fan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said: Hamilton was mentioned at one point as well. Hamilton is too close for a new sport trying to establish itself. Ottawa is the right distance away - close enough for a road trip but far enough to be a distinct market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastLondonMike Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Some wonderful town names in the vicinity. Hope the game spreads to the town of 'Welcome'. Newham Dockers - Champions 2013. Rugby League For East London. 100% Cockney Rugby League!Twitter: @NewhamDockersRL - Get following! www.newhamdockers.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIWIT Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, John WP Fan said: Hamilton is too close for a new sport trying to establish itself. Ottawa is the right distance away - close enough for a road trip but far enough to be a distinct market. That's why I like the idea of a team in Buffalo. Close enough to be rivals but a completely separate market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hallucinating Goose Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, EastLondonMike said: Some wonderful town names in the vicinity. Hope the game spreads to the town of 'Welcome'. Apologies, made a rubbish joke and decided to delete it. Just ignore me. You're quite right, there is some great town names in both Canada and USA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 They should be placed in the Championship, not League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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