Bleep1673 1,066 Report post Posted October 2 3 hours ago, Spike said: Workingtom town have declined to participate next year That's OK, because it could cause confusion with a team called WORKINGTON TOWN, one with an 'N' at the end of both names Quote RESURGAM Non solum autem Leones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lounge Room Lizard 2,461 Report post Posted October 2 Maybe if it was properly planned and no mid week games, then teams would be interested in playing in it. You cant blame Workington and others for not wanting to play after this years mess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerjon 8,965 Report post Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, Lounge Room Lizard said: You cant blame Workington and others for not wanting to play after this years mess. I can and I will. They should be docked league points. As a rough estimate, any and all they collect next year should be docked. Quote Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lounge Room Lizard 2,461 Report post Posted October 2 4 minutes ago, gingerjon said: I can and I will. They should be docked league points. As a rough estimate, any and all they collect next year should be docked. why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerjon 8,965 Report post Posted October 2 Just now, Lounge Room Lizard said: why? Because they are a rugby league club who appear to have decided that playing rugby league is too much bother. 2 1 Quote Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lounge Room Lizard 2,461 Report post Posted October 2 Just now, gingerjon said: Because they are a rugby league club who appear to have decided that playing rugby league is too much bother. But the RFL have made up this Cup with poor planning and didnt bother to invite all the lower League sides this year. And no doubt Workington would struggle field a full team mid week for an away game in London or somewhere South of Sheffield. The 1895 Cup was a joke this year and was not something that a team like Workington could benefit in any way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerjon 8,965 Report post Posted October 2 Just now, Lounge Room Lizard said: But the RFL have made up this Cup with poor planning and didnt bother to invite all the lower League sides this year. And no doubt Workington would struggle field a full team mid week for an away game in London or somewhere South of Sheffield. The 1895 Cup was a joke this year and was not something that a team like Workington could benefit in any way. It's okay. They've made the decision that playing rugby league matches is something for other rugby league teams to do. They can, I don't know, watch midweek soccer and marvel at a sport where amateur and semi professional teams can raise a side more than once a week when required. 5 Quote Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lounge Room Lizard 2,461 Report post Posted October 2 1 minute ago, gingerjon said: It's okay. They've made the decision that playing rugby league matches is something for other rugby league teams to do. They can, I don't know, watch midweek soccer and marvel at a sport where amateur and semi professional teams can raise a side more than once a week when required. They have struggled the past couple of years to get 17 players for playoff games on a weekend. They have no doubt looked at this and seen that getting a team out to play midweek in Sheffield, London etc would be unlikely and have decided they will not enter. There is no rules that force them or anybody else to play in the 1895 Cup. Asking Semi Pro teams (some no better than amateurs) to travel a few hours and play a couple games midweek, is not really a good option and player welfare again is ignored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oliver Clothesoff 2,698 Report post Posted October 2 Don’t blame teams for declining at all. It’s a poorly executed competition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leonard 305 Report post Posted October 2 Didn't Workington only field 14 vs the Thunder in a play-off game because some players were on a stag do? They are beginning to sound a pathetic club. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaggy 126 Report post Posted October 2 7 minutes ago, Leonard said: Didn't Workington only field 14 vs the Thunder in a play-off game because some players were on a stag do? They are beginning to sound a pathetic club. Really? I played the day after my stag do for my amateur club as did the couple of guys who went on it. Didn't last very long and it wasn't a good idea... but I still had that commitment to my team. 1 Quote Do not fear; only BELIEVE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdd 469 Report post Posted October 2 Nothing worse than coming up with a good idea and then not following it through properly. How good would something like. Bradford v Leigh curtain raiser be to the cup final? Now we’ve got teams not even wanting to participate. Our sport doesn’t half let itself down with decision making at the top level. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leonard 305 Report post Posted October 2 6 minutes ago, Shaggy said: Really? I played the day after my stag do for my amateur club as did the couple of guys who went on it. Didn't last very long and it wasn't a good idea... but I still had that commitment to my team. Was reported on Forty Twenty podcast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanMac 496 Report post Posted October 2 13 minutes ago, Leonard said: Didn't Workington only field 14 vs the Thunder in a play-off game because some players were on a stag do? They are beginning to sound a pathetic club. If you class players recovering from cruciate operations, shoulder reconstructions, concussion, suspension, retirement and other injuries as going on a stag do then suppose your correct. But hey ho don’t let the truth get in the way of your comments. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leonard 305 Report post Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, Cdd said: Nothing worse than coming up with a good idea and then not following it through properly. How good would something like. Bradford v Leigh curtain raiser be to the cup final? Now we’ve got teams not even wanting to participate. Our sport doesn’t half let itself down with decision making at the top level. Workington aren't a top team. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidM 7,290 Report post Posted October 2 16 minutes ago, Leonard said: Didn't Workington only field 14 vs the Thunder in a play-off game because some players were on a stag do? They are beginning to sound a pathetic club. Err no Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonM 2,201 Report post Posted October 2 Some clubs declined to participate last year (Skolars, Coventry, Crusaders) because long distance mid-week trips for part-time players were going to cause difficulties. I can imagine that's also true for Workington Town. Disappointing, but understandable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leonard 305 Report post Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, IanMac said: If you class players recovering from cruciate operations, shoulder reconstructions, concussion, suspension, retirement and other injuries as going on a stag do then suppose your correct. But hey ho don’t let the truth get in the way of your comments. They managed 17 the week before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerjon 8,965 Report post Posted October 2 1 minute ago, JonM said: Some clubs declined to participate last year (Skolars, Coventry, Crusaders) because long distance mid-week trips for part-time players were going to cause difficulties. I can imagine that's also true for Workington Town. Disappointing, but understandable. I'm less and less convinced we should be accepting of it as an excuse from any club. 1 Quote Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanMac 496 Report post Posted October 2 6 minutes ago, Leonard said: They managed 17 the week before. Certainly did, last 17 fit players we had, but unfortunately 2 picked up injuries and 1 got suspended. 17 - 3 = 14, 1 of whom certainly shouldn’t have played but due to the circumstances put his hand up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidM 7,290 Report post Posted October 2 13 minutes ago, Leonard said: They managed 17 the week before. And one got injured , one missed out due to the concussion protocols and one was banned . And not on stag do’s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wilsontown 293 Report post Posted October 2 24 minutes ago, IanMac said: If you class players recovering from cruciate operations, shoulder reconstructions, concussion, suspension, retirement and other injuries as going on a stag do then suppose your correct. But hey ho don’t let the truth get in the way of your comments. That could take a bit of recovering from... 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkw 3,689 Report post Posted October 2 25 minutes ago, Leonard said: They managed 17 the week before. Amazingly, and I will keep this in the dumbest speak I can as you are obviously hard of thinking, some of those 17 were included in the list of injuries.......I know thats hard to believe. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkw 3,689 Report post Posted October 2 21 minutes ago, gingerjon said: I'm less and less convinced we should be accepting of it as an excuse from any club. So you want the club punished for breaking absolutely no rules whatsoever. Thats a great idea and not at all draconian. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oliver Clothesoff 2,698 Report post Posted October 2 Common sense would have had this competition as a bit of a pre-season competition, a bit like the old Northern Rail Cup. Toronto and Toulouse aren’t going to compete in it, so that leaves 23 non-SL sides. You could then add the NCL winners or any side you fancy, Elite 1 winners/Red Star/Irish/Scottish sides etc to make it 24 sides. Split the 24 into eight groups of three. Have the group games before the Championship/League One season starts and the QF’s, which will be made up of the eight group winners before the season starts too. That means you’ve only got to shoehorn two games into the season somewhere before the Final. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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