Cumberland Sausage Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Just a Tongue in Cheek response to some of the figures that get banded about on here and other forums regarding anything from players wages to Ground Costs without any real substance behind them. Looking at The Reds Forum a few on there are saying that the Council have spent £100,000 on Derwent Park so that the Reds can play here next season and I am continually hearing up Town and at Work all these stupid figures being quoted regarding how much the Council are spending on improvements. £4000 sounds about right to me regarding the Shale removal and can't see the cost of levelling the pitch,new Top soil and Grass seed costing £94000 so where do these figures come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbria RL Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Cleator moor Celtic had there pitch totally redone sand, the works cost in region of 70 k obviously payed for by sports funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route66 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Cumberland Sausage said: Just a Tongue in Cheek response to some of the figures that get banded about on here and other forums regarding anything from players wages to Ground Costs without any real substance behind them. Looking at The Reds Forum a few on there are saying that the Council have spent £100,000 on Derwent Park so that the Reds can play here next season and I am continually hearing up Town and at Work all these stupid figures being quoted regarding how much the Council are spending on improvements. £4000 sounds about right to me regarding the Shale removal and can't see the cost of levelling the pitch,new Top soil and Grass seed costing £94000 so where do these figures come from. I have seen somewhere that there was £100,000 in the last council budget for pitch improvements at derwent park agreed, but that was possibly in one of Mark jenkinson rants,interestingly he seems to be trying to take credit for the pitch works funded by lidl in maryport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, Route66 said: I have seen somewhere that there was £100,000 in the last council budget for pitch improvements at derwent park agreed, but that was possibly in one of Mark jenkinson rants,interestingly he seems to be trying to take credit for the pitch works funded by lidl in maryport. 55 minutes ago, Cumbria RL said: Cleator moor Celtic had there pitch totally redone sand, the works cost in region of 70 k obviously payed for by sports funding. It would be another £50.000 at least for Derwent park with the size difference, but that will also depend on what or if it requires extra drainage, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaton Sandy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, JMB said: It would be another £50.000 at least for Derwent park with the size difference, but that will also depend on what or if it requires extra drainage, Drainage has always been good at DP due to it being sited on top of an old ashes tip,created when cinders and ash were pretty much the only waste dumped. Unlike today's landfill largely inert materials including glass.........my old feller used to ratch for old bottles and pot lids when he was a kid living at Back Row, Northside. Probably the reason that historically many matches survived very wet weather at DP when the paddy field down the road was unplayable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopping Mad Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Can anyone confirm the Oldham game (June 23) is also being played at Borough Park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wewonit 52 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 NOT CONFIRMED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerlad Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Hopping Mad said: Can anyone confirm the Oldham game (June 23) is also being played at Borough Park? the seed only went down yesterday so I'd take a guess of it being at BP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havenwarrior Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Was surprised to still the Footy Posts still up at BP yday, thought it would have been ready for this Sunday’s game. HW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hate the rec Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Havenwarrior said: Was surprised to still the Footy Posts still up at BP yday, thought it would have been ready for this Sunday’s game. HW Going up tomorrow I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumberland Sausage Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, Havenwarrior said: Was surprised to still the Footy Posts still up at BP yday, thought it would have been ready for this Sunday’s game. HW I Thought the same myself on my way home from work tonight. Also will we have someone in a rowing boat fishing the balls out of the Derwent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerlad Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Havenwarrior said: Was surprised to still the Footy Posts still up at BP yday, thought it would have been ready for this Sunday’s game. HW today I think they go up. I was down yesterday and towns sponsor boards where being laid out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun mc Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Me and me Dad have been trying to remember why Town played Wigan back in 1987 (was it?) I can remember the game, was it one of Frano Botica's first games? but can't remember the reason for the switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans82 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Might be wrong but i think it was the consequences of the Bradford fire . All grounds were re-examined , ours failed because i think for the lack of crash barriers , so we had to play at Borough Park . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome Dome Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 hours ago, ivans82 said: Might be wrong but i think it was the consequences of the Bradford fire . All grounds were re-examined , ours failed because i think for the lack of crash barriers , so we had to play at Borough Park . Because of ground safety requirements Derwent Park's authorised capacity was less than 2,000.......I remember Ike and a crew adding Crush barriers shortly after that game v Wigan....the other matches played at Borough Park in 1980's were under lights...Town had none then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route66 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 hours ago, shaun mc said: Me and me Dad have been trying to remember why Town played Wigan back in 1987 (was it?) I can remember the game, was it one of Frano Botica's first games? but can't remember the reason for the switch Before Boticas time,Wigan team that day,Hampson,Stott,Stephenson, Hanley,Gill,Ella,Edwards, West,Kiss, Lucas,Du toit, Goodway,Potter.subs Ford and Louw .Wish we could see the likes again regularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrome Dome Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 39 minutes ago, Route66 said: Before Boticas time,Wigan team that day,Hampson,Stott,Stephenson, Hanley,Gill,Ella,Edwards, West,Kiss, Lucas,Du toit, Goodway,Potter.subs Ford and Louw .Wish we could see the likes again regularly Workington Town 12 Wigan 56 - Sunday 9th February 1986 Venue: Borough Park, Workington FC (Switched from Derwent Park, Workington) Competition: Silk Cut Challenge Cup First Round Kick Off: 3:00pm WiganlBacks:l 1. Steve Hampson, 2. Phil Stott, 3. David Stephenson, 4. Ellery Hanley, 5. Henderson Gill, 6. Steve Ella, 7. Shaun Edwards WiganlForwards:l 8. Graeme West, 9. Nicky Kiss, 10. Ian Lucas, 11. Nick Du Toit, 12. Andy Goodway, 13. Ian Potter WiganlSubs Used:l 14. Mike Ford (replaced Nicky Kiss), 15. Rob Louw (replaced Andy Goodway) WiganlTries:l Henderson Gill 2, Phil Stott 2, Nick Du Toit 2, Graeme West 2, Ellery Hanley, Shaun Edwards, Ian Lucas, Steve Ella WiganlGoals:l David Stephenson 2, Henderson Gill 1, Nick Du Toit 1 WorkingtonlTries:l John Beattie, Dave Courty WorkingtonlGoals:l Gary Smith 2 lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Summary:l No problems ofr Wigan in this First Round Challenge Cup tie at Workington. Half Time:l Workington 0 Wigan 18 Attendance:l 6,346 Referee:l Ron Campbell (Widnes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death to the Rah Rah's Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I was told yesterday that Borough Park has failed its stadium inspection and the current certificate runs out at the end of July. Where would that leave both cubs if the pitch at Derwent Park hasn't seeded in time? I suppose Town could play a game at Zebras or more than likely the Rec' as that will have the appropriate certificates, but what about the Reds, as there isn't any other ground locally that I can think of that could accommodate them? Out of interest Rockerlad, could Reds still play Reserves and Junior games on Borough Park without a certificate as there aren't more than a handful of speccies attend those games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
townie88 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Death to the Rah Rah's said: I was told yesterday that Borough Park has failed its stadium inspection and the current certificate runs out at the end of July. Where would that leave both cubs if the pitch at Derwent Park hasn't seeded in time? I suppose Town could play a game at Zebras or more than likely the Rec' as that will have the appropriate certificates, but what about the Reds, as there isn't any other ground locally that I can think of that could accommodate them? Out of interest Rockerlad, could Reds still play Reserves and Junior games on Borough Park without a certificate as there aren't more than a handful of speccies attend those games? I believe the pitch has now been seeded? Cant see it taking any longer than the end of July to be ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerlad Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Death to the Rah Rah's said: I was told yesterday that Borough Park has failed its stadium inspection and the current certificate runs out at the end of July. Where would that leave both cubs if the pitch at Derwent Park hasn't seeded in time? I suppose Town could play a game at Zebras or more than likely the Rec' as that will have the appropriate certificates, but what about the Reds, as there isn't any other ground locally that I can think of that could accommodate them? Out of interest Rockerlad, could Reds still play Reserves and Junior games on Borough Park without a certificate as there aren't more than a handful of speccies attend those games? I very much doubt it mate to be honest. abd yes safety cert runs out end of July. it was meant to be may but I think they got an extension to accommodate town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death to the Rah Rah's Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 48 minutes ago, rockerlad said: I very much doubt it mate to be honest. abd yes safety cert runs out end of July. it was meant to be may but I think they got an extension to accommodate town do you think that's the end of Borough Park regardless of the stadium going ahead or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerlad Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Death to the Rah Rah's said: do you think that's the end of Borough Park regardless of the stadium going ahead or not? I'm not sure, I know they are currently pricing up the work that needs required in a worst case scenario. it will all depend on how the shareholders vote. but if the stadium doesn't happen and the shareholders block a move to DP I wouldn't be surprised if the BOD resigned IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anok4u Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 On 21/06/2019 at 11:15, townie88 said: I believe the pitch has now been seeded? Cant see it taking any longer than the end of July to be ready? Defo a bit of green on the pitch now go **** yasell ya little **** gain NL1 then take ya **** out ya dads **** then speak proper rugby talk. you jameating little spotty ****...itchy waa waa 2008... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Arrow Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Good post on the Reds forum yesterday. What is a scaled down version? Reduced capacity? Any decent sized stadium with terracing on all sides and a decent stand would struggle to have a smaller capacity. Get rid of the offices etc? - this bit of the stadium MAKES THE MONEY!!! The capacity of a stadium is not just based on number of seats and size of terracing. It is a complex calculation based number of emergency exits, access to exits, number of turnstiles ... The idea of a scaled down stadium is absurd quite frankly. It would cost circa £500,000 to redesign the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death to the Rah Rah's Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 13/06/2019 at 13:04, Cumberland Sausage said: £4000 sounds about right to me regarding the Shale removal and can't see the cost of levelling the pitch,new Top soil and Grass seed costing £94000 so where do these figures come from. If they have put new field drains in as well, I would say 100k was about right. If you look at Sport England's guide for pitches, they can cost anything from 60k for basic redrainage up to 200k if its a brand new pitch and needs built up or leveling. Most of the local RL clubs (who look after their pitches) will pay around 5k per year for field maintenance alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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